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Obamacare - Screwing the public... 29 Jun 2012 16:20 #1

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Obamacare to unleash crushing new taxes, trillions in debt, huge job losses, and it doesn't even cover natural medicine

(NaturalNews) By now, we all know the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the individual mandate portion of Obamacare by declaring it a "tax." This is, in essence, a declaration that the federal government now has unlimited power to force consumers to spend some (or even all) of their take-home pay on various products, services or even intellectual property that they have no interest in buying in the first place. It is a concentration of economic power in the hands of the federal government, and it suddenly ends economic liberty in America.

It's also the largest tax increase in the history of the United States. By upholding Obamacare's individual mandate as a "tax," Chief Justice Robert just labeled President Obama the largest tax increase President in the history of the country!

21 new taxes on Americans
The high court's ruling leaves in place 21 tax increases in the health-care law costing more than $675 billion over the next 10 years, according to the House Ways and Means Committee. Of those, 12 tax hikes would affect families earning less than $250,000 per year, the panel said, including a "Cadillac tax" on high-cost insurance plans, a tax on insurance providers, and an excise tax on medical device manufacturers

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If you're going to force me to get health care at least give me the option of getting the care I WANT!
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Re: Obamacare - Screwing the public... 29 Jun 2012 16:29 #2

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The US simply cannot have an NHS, it won't work on the scale of that country (unless the govt was printing its own money of course...)

The way I see it, is that they are merely going to be subsidizing insurance companies to sort it all anyway!

Everyone should be able to afford health insurance tbh, at the end of the day wages suck.
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Re: Obamacare - Screwing the public... 29 Jun 2012 16:35 #3

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andyh wrote:
The US simply cannot have an NHS, it won't work on the scale of that country (unless the govt was printing its own money of course...)

If they started firing the ass wipers they have at the white house, stopped paying ex presidents, cut wages for congress AND the white house (president and staff) down to regular wages instead of 100+K USD a year they could probably afford to pay off their debt (as the public did not spend it) as well as provide a health care system.
The way I see it, is that they are merely going to be subsidizing insurance companies to sort it all anyway!

Everyone should be able to afford health insurance tbh, at the end of the day wages suck.

Yes, everyone should be able to afford health insurance, but a lot of people can't. Health care should be provided for people, world wide...doctors don't need 6 figures or more a year, they should go into health care as a job choice based on actually CARING for people, not based on how much they can make. But that's just my opinion.
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Re: Obamacare - Screwing the public... 29 Jun 2012 16:42 #4

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StarsChildren wrote:
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The US simply cannot have an NHS, it won't work on the scale of that country (unless the govt was printing its own money of course...)

If they started firing the ass wipers they have at the white house, stopped paying ex presidents, cut wages for congress AND the white house (president and staff) down to regular wages instead of 100+K USD a year they could probably afford to pay off their debt (as the public did not spend it) as well as provide a health care system.

Heh, well it'd save some money alright but it'd be well short of the figure needed for a US NHS setup, we're talking trillion dollar plus territory.

However....the 2 trillion that disappeared the day before 911, now thats different ;)
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Re: Obamacare - Screwing the public... 29 Jun 2012 16:48 #5

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andyh wrote:
Heh, well it'd save some money alright but it'd be well short of the figure needed for a US NHS setup, we're talking trillion dollar plus territory.

However....the 2 trillion that disappeared the day before 911, now thats different ;)

Don't get me started on the disappearing money problem the US has... every time we turn around the government has misplaced a billion here, a million there, a couple trillion over there and have no idea where it went :mad:

As for the health care trillion dollar +...it doesn't have to cost that much if blackmailing sob's, excuse me, insurance companies were done away with and doctors were paid directly and worked for less than 6 figures... never mind, it would still cost because there are people who cough and think it's an emergency because it must be some mass killing virus that shall spread and wipe out the world :roll:
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Re: Obamacare - Screwing the public... 12 Jul 2012 03:29 #6

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I think it is a step in the right direction. No it is not perfect but there are a lot of people who will benefit. Also there are exemptions based on ability to pay for it (the one people seem to be complaining about most) and religion etc. The problem with the healthcare system are plentiful and so regulation is needed here despite what Ron Paul might tell you. You can`t just replace the current system with a perfect system, just look how difficult this was to pass.
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