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Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 14:07 #1

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19009344
A man found guilty of sending a menacing tweet threatening to blow up an airport has won a challenge against his conviction.

Paul Chambers, 28, of Northern Ireland, was found guilty in May 2010 of sending a "menacing electronic communication".

He was living in Doncaster, South Yorkshire, when he tweeted that he would blow up nearby Robin Hood Airport when it closed after heavy snow.

After a hearing at the High Court in London his conviction was quashed.

Mr Chambers said later: "I am relieved, vindicated - it is ridiculous it ever got this far.

"I want to thank everyone who has helped, including everyone on Twitter."

Mr Chambers said he had sent the tweet, which contained swear words, to his 600 followers in a moment of frustration after Robin Hood Airport, near Doncaster, was closed by snow in January 2010.

He said he had never thought anyone would take his "silly joke" seriously.

The message Mr Chambers tweeted stated: "Crap! Robin Hood airport is closed. You've got a week and a bit to get your shit together, otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high!!"

In their judgement, the Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge, Mr Justice Owen and Mr Justice Griffith Williams, said: "If the person or persons who receive or read it, (the message) or may reasonably be expected to receive, or read it, would brush it aside as a silly joke, or a joke in bad taste, or empty bombastic or ridiculous banter, then it would be a contradiction in terms to describe it as a message of a menacing character."

Mr Chambers, who is originally from Corby, Northamptonshire, was fined £385 and ordered to pay £600 costs after being convicted at Doncaster Magistrates' Court in May 2010.

'Vindication and victory'
His first appeal was dismissed by a crown court judge in November 2010, who said the electronic communication was "clearly menacing" and that airport staff were sufficiently concerned to report it.

However last month, John Cooper QC told the judges it was obvious the tweet was a joke and it was sent by someone who did not hide his identity.

It was certainly not sent in the context of terrorism and it was wrong for the crown court to make such an association, he said.

Comedians Stephen Fry and Al Murray were among those supporting Mr Chambers' case.

Mr Fry later tweeted that the ruling was a "complete vindication and victory" for Mr Chambers.

The Crown Prosecution Service said it would not appeal against the judgement.

"Following our decision to charge Mr Chambers, both the magistrates' court and the crown court, in upholding his conviction, agreed that his message had the potential to cause real concern to members of the public, such as those travelling through the airport during the relevant time," it said in a statement.

"Presenting our case allowed the High Court to hear both sides and reach a fully considered decision. We have noted and accepted the court's reasoning."
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 14:36 #2

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Nice one. It should have never gotten that far and been laughed off seeing as that's exactly what it was. This was a waste of everyone's time and money.

Cheers WUB. :cool:
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 14:43 #3

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"bombastic" hahahahahaha. Judges DO have a sense of humour :D

Agreed with sket. What a total waste of energy. Twats.
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 14:56 #4

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The PTB have not wasted any energy doing this court case. It was done for a reason.
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 14:58 #5

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Steevo wrote:
The PTB have not wasted any energy doing this court case. It was done for a reason.

Yes, I agree with that too they certainly could have picked a better 'target' though eh.
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 15:00 #6

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The PTB have not wasted any energy doing this court case. It was done for a reason.

Yes, I agree with that too they certainly could have picked a better 'target' though eh.

On the contrary, the target was perfect really, and there will be other similar targets used for the same purpose. I think they call this sort of thing a "psyop".
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 16:51 #7

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Ok Steevo I'll go with that as a possibility. But surely the effect of this "target" is to raise the public's distrust and opposition of the laws that are now in place to deal with things said on tinterwebz rather then to encourage them to back them.

Ok, I can see it does send out the message, "look we'll literally nick you for anything" and that will induce fear in some and make them think long and hard before they say anything remotely contentious but wouldn't a better psyop be inclined to get the public onside with the laws?
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 17:42 #8

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Ok Steevo I'll go with that as a possibility. But surely the effect of this "target" is to raise the public's distrust and opposition of the laws that are now in place to deal with things said on tinterwebz rather then to encourage them to back them.

Ok, I can see it does send out the message, "look we'll literally nick you for anything" and that will induce fear in some and make them think long and hard before they say anything remotely contentious but wouldn't a better psyop be inclined to get the public onside with the laws?

In a dictatorship. the people need to fear their government, or it cannot work.

But yes if the public half believe in the laws ALSO, then it helps, and I would say that in this particular case, the people DO half believe in these new laws of limitations to free-speech. It a mind game.
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dubmeup wrote:

Ok, I can see it does send out the message, "look we'll literally nick you for anything" and that will induce fear in some and make them think long and hard before they say anything remotely contentious but wouldn't a better psyop be inclined to get the public onside with the laws?

Not for me it don't.

From my own perspective, every single time I hear of this type of thing nowadays, it enrages me WAY too much and all I want to do is push some limits of my own to see just how far they will go!

Stupidity, yes.... but it's something that's really beginning to grate on me and cutting my nose to spite my face is something that comes rather easily unfortunately.
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Re: Paul Chambers' Conviction Quashed 27 Jul 2012 18:23 #10

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Not for me it don't.

From my own perspective, every single time I hear of this type of thing nowadays, it enrages me WAY too much and all I want to do is push some limits of my own to see just how far they will go!

Stupidity, yes.... but it's something that's really beginning to grate on me and cutting my nose to spite my face is something that comes rather easily unfortunately.

That kind of attitude that you have Psketti is the kind that has SO FAR kept the totalitarian state at bay. We ALL need to be that way....if we want freedom.

Edit : Actually I wanna re-phrase that, I really wanted to say this, but couldnt think of the words :-

It's attitudes like that that keeps the rest of us free (or something like that - Pardon me I cant think straight today, with all these OSCAR nominations an' all)
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I totally get where you're coming from Steevo and agree with it. Like I said though I think some will be scared by stories like this but the vast majority will feel indignation. It may well make some question just how mad our leaders :notworthy: have got. Especially in the context of all the other insane things that our leaders :notworthy: have been doing.
I personally see the choice of this target as a bit of an own goal. As opposed to say the chaps that got 4 years for twittering about last years riots. Those sentences were something that genuinely did send a shockwave of fear, this charade just looks pathetic to everyone that comes across it I think.
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dubmeup wrote:
I totally get where you're coming from Steevo and agree with it. Like I said though I think some will be scared by stories like this but the vast majority will feel indignation. It may well make some question just how mad our leaders :notworthy: have got. Especially in the context of all the other insane things that our leaders :notworthy: have been doing.
I personally see the choice of this target as a bit of an own goal. As opposed to say the chaps that got 4 years for twittering about last years riots. Those sentences were something that genuinely did send a shockwave of fear, this charade just looks pathetic to everyone that comes across it I think.

Yes I agree with all that and I agree that it looks like the PTB are rushing things and making mistakes, but I do think that the overall effect of the court case AT THE MOMENT is one of fear....which will I think turn to idignation on a huge scale (a sort of yin/yang situation). The way out of this mess (the confusion in people's minds) is through knowledge/awareness (eg understanding how the PTB manipulate us via psyops etc).
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