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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 14:43 #21

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Yes, another former US military, trained killer, lone gunman...... White Supremacist. All the cliches. 9 - 11 was almost 11 years ago, he sure did bide his time. Nothing like this happened right after 9 -11, there were windows broken, there was harrassment, bullying, spray painted slogans and that sort of thing, but no White Supremacists shooting up Sikh temples.

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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 14:47 #22

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Yes, another former US military, trained killer, lone gunman...... White Supremacist. All the cliches. 9 - 11 was almost 11 years ago, he sure did bide his time. Nothing like this happened right after 9 -11, there were windows broken, there was harrassment, bullying, spray painted slogans and that sort of thing, but no White Supremacists shooting up Sikh temples.

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And why did he not shoot up a mosque if he was a white supremacist holding a grudge about 9/11?
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 15:26 #23

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Yes, another former US military, trained killer, lone gunman...... White Supremacist. All the cliches. 9 - 11 was almost 11 years ago, he sure did bide his time. Nothing like this happened right after 9 -11, there were windows broken, there was harrassment, bullying, spray painted slogans and that sort of thing, but no White Supremacists shooting up Sikh temples.

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And why did he not shoot up a mosque if he was a white supremacist holding a grudge about 9/11?

Newscaster's voice -- "He was a White Supremacist -- they're very extreme and not too bright. He can't tell the difference between Sikhs and radical Islamic fundamentalist terrorist types..."
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 17:04 #24

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ronisron wrote:
Yes, another former US military, trained killer, lone gunman...... White Supremacist. All the cliches. 9 - 11 was almost 11 years ago, he sure did bide his time. Nothing like this happened right after 9 -11, there were windows broken, there was harrassment, bullying, spray painted slogans and that sort of thing, but no White Supremacists shooting up Sikh temples.

:facepalm:

And why did he not shoot up a mosque if he was a white supremacist holding a grudge about 9/11?

Newscaster's voice -- "He was a White Supremacist -- they're very extreme and not too bright. He can't tell the difference between Sikhs and radical Islamic fundamentalist terrorist types..."

:killinme: Yeah, 11 years of 9/11 media hype on Muslim terrorism...I can see how easily he confused the two... ;)
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 18:29 #25

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Some snippets from August 6th article:
Sikh shooting latest violent link to Fort Bragg

CBS News) Wade Michael Page, who was identified as the gunman in Sunday's mass shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, was a U.S. Army veteran who served in Fort Bliss, Texas, and at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, N.C., where he worked in psychological operations.

Sources told CBS News that Page received a general discharge in October 1998.

Fort Bragg has been in the spotlight in past years for accounts of violence - from murder to suicides - involving active-duty service members and those who had served there.

In June, a soldier from the 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade at Fort Bragg killed his superior officer and wounded another soldier before turning the weapon on himself. He later died from his wounds.

In January, a Utah police officer was killed and five other officers wounded in a shootout in Ogden when police tried to serve a search warrant on a drug-related matter. The suspect, Army veteran Matthew David Stewart, ......served from July 1994 to December 1998 and spent a year based in Fort Bragg

In August 2011, two soldiers in Fort Bragg's 82nd Airborne Division, Pvt. Sebastian Gamez and Spc. Christopher Blackett, were charged with killing a North Carolina teenager and dumping his body in a wooded area just north of the Army post.

In December 2008, Joseph Michael Tancredi, a 19-year-old member of the 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment at Fort Bragg, was arrested for killing Mondrow Brown, a homeless man. He later pleaded guilty and was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.

In October 2008, the husband of 29-year-old Sgt. Christina E. Smith, who was found stabbed to death near her home, was arrested. Sgt. Richard Smith, 26, was charged with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder, accused of hiring Pfc. Mathew Kvapil, 18, to kill the wife as the couple walked together one evening.

In July 2008 a Fort Bragg soldier was charged with first-degree murder in the death of a pregnant colleague whose partially decomposed body was found in a motel bathtub. Sgt. Edgar Patino, of Hope Mills, N.C., later pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the death of Army Spc. Megan L. Touma. He was sentenced to at least 16 years in prison.

There have also been reports that side effects of the anti-malaria drug Lariam, also known as mefloquine, which was given to troops prior to their deployment overseas, was linked to psychotic episodes.

In 2002, four Fort Bragg soldiers allegedly killed their wives, and three of them then committed suicide.Three of those
cases involved special operations soldiers who had served in Afghanistan. A fifth soldier, a special forces major, was killed, and his wife was charged in the murder.

Also, Sgt. 1st Class Rigoberto Nieves, 32, a special forces soldier, fatally shot his wife and himself June 11, 2002, two days after he had returned from Afghanistan; and Sgt. 1st Class Brandon Floyd, reportedly a member of the secret Delta Force, shot his wife and then killed himself July 19, 2002.

Army Sgt. Cedric Griffin was accused of stabbing his wife Marilyn 50 times and setting her on fire July 9, 2002.

Army Staff Sgt. John Diamond and Michelle Theer were charged in the shooting death of Theer's husband, Air Force Capt. Marty Theer, on Dec. 17, 2000. Diamond was convicted and is serving a life sentence in a military prison. Theer - convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder - is serving a life sentence at a women's prison in Raleigh, N.C.

Malcolm Wright Jr. and James Burmeister, paratroopers with the 82d Airborne Division, were convicted in separate trials for the Dec. 7, 1995, shooting deaths of two black men in Fayetteville. They were sentenced to life in prison.

In October 1995, Army Sgt. William J. Kreutzer, who had a history of psychiatric problems, killed one soldier and wounded 18 others at Fort Bragg. He was convicted and sentenced to death in 1996, but the sentence was later changed to life in prison.

Sgt. 1st Class Ervin M. Graves was sentenced to life in prison for the July 10, 1993, shooting death of 2nd Lt. Lisa Bryant in a Fort Bragg dorm.

Master Sgt. Timothy Hennis was convicted in state court for the 1985 murders of Kathryn Eastburn and two of her daughters: Kara, 5, and Erin, 3. Hennis appealed and was acquitted in a second trial. Years later, after Hennis had retired from the military, DNA tests unavailable in the 1980s tied Hennis to the crime scene.

One of the most sensational cases of violence involving Fort Bragg personnel may be the 1970 slaying of the family of Capt. Jeffrey MacDonald. Army MPs responded to a call for help at the residence of the military doctor and found MacDonald, wounded and unconscious, on the floor beside the body of his dead, pregnant wife. They also found the couple's children dead in their bedrooms.

I've always wondered what goes on at Fort Bragg. Page was discharged in 1998 but never lost that killer instinct. Mind control/programming - a gift that keeps on giving? Lots of dark evil around Ft. Bragg.
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Over the years there have been murders, suicides, disappearances and ritualistic events at Ft. Bragg , NC. It is a military mind-control center. They work closely with Camp Le Jeune.

This week, a soldier returning home from Iraq to see his 11 momth old daughter who was born while he was away, found her missing and the mother did not know where she was.

The baby was found in the attic, dead for weeks. A foul smell had permeated the neighborhood and residents thought a dead animal was around.

The mother said she found the baby dead in her crib and placed her in the attic. An autopsy is being performed to find the exact cause of death. Another strange death at Ft. Bragg, probably the most dangerous military installation in the US.
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 18:37 #26

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Wow! That's astonishing! I had no idea about all those strange stories....something in the water?

Y'know, it's so crazy that with all the actual documented cases of the government/military experimenting on citizens(not just MK Ultra & Agent Orange) that people still scoff at the idea of mind control. :roll: I'm so sure the PTB were like, "Well, that was a fun little experiment but no more! We must end all mind control experimentation; it's just not ethical." :hahano:
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 21:10 #27

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Probably the people that scoff are the ones most susceptible to being programmed/manipulated.

Funny what you say about the water because strangely enough in 2010 the water, as well as other environmentals including drywall, was being investigated as possible causes for the high rate of unexplained infant deaths at Fort Bragg.
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It is now being reported that Wade Michael Page, the shooter, is a native of Littleton, Colorado (home of the Columbine massacre)and went to high school there. As you know, Littleton is down the road from Aurora.

Here is another coincidence:
PHOENIX (CBS5) - As word filters down about the mass shooting at a suburban Milwaukee, WI, Sikh temple, Phoenix police said they are going to step up patrols near temples in the area.

"Phoenix Police Community Response and our Homeland Defense Bureau are in contact with Sikh leaders here in the Valley and we have increased patrol presence around the three temples in our city until further notice," said Officer James Holmes, a spokesman for the department, in a statement.
CBS News 5 Phoenix

You might have also heard that Page had recently moved to Wisconsin earlier this year and was living on Holmes Ave

There are conspiracy theories floating around that these and other coincidences are all planned, but I wonder if they are synchronicities and universe's way of drawing attention to something.

I forgot what else I was going to say, except that I think both this and the Batman shooting are both possibly staged (Batman shooting definitely, however, I think this Page fellow was always an ass, and I think that Holmes was not, but was either set up for something he did not do, or that his mind was tinkered with to make him something that he was not.
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Re: Seven killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 08 Aug 2012 21:49 #28

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Probably the people that scoff are the ones most susceptible to being programmed/manipulated.

Funny what you say about the water because strangely enough in 2010 the water, as well as other environmentals including drywall, was being investigated as possible causes for the high rate of unexplained infant deaths at Fort Bragg.
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It is now being reported that Wade Michael Page, the shooter, is a native of Littleton, Colorado (home of the Columbine massacre)and went to high school there. As you know, Littleton is down the road from Aurora.

Here is another coincidence:
PHOENIX (CBS5) - As word filters down about the mass shooting at a suburban Milwaukee, WI, Sikh temple, Phoenix police said they are going to step up patrols near temples in the area.

"Phoenix Police Community Response and our Homeland Defense Bureau are in contact with Sikh leaders here in the Valley and we have increased patrol presence around the three temples in our city until further notice," said Officer James Holmes, a spokesman for the department, in a statement.
CBS News 5 Phoenix

You might have also heard that Page had recently moved to Wisconsin earlier this year and was living on Holmes Ave

There are conspiracy theories floating around that these and other coincidences are all planned, but I wonder if they are synchronicities and universe's way of drawing attention to something.

I forgot what else I was going to say, except that I think both this and the Batman shooting are both possibly staged (Batman shooting definitely, however, I think this Page fellow was always an ass, and I think that Holmes was not, but was either set up for something he did not do, or that his mind was tinkered with to make him something that he was not.

I haven't heard as much about this shooting since I don't watch much t.v. or listen to the news. I agree that this Page guy just looks like an asshole. But these little "synchs"(Holmes Ave) are strange. Not to mention, way to shock the public with another fear- inducing news story of a crazy gunman right on the heels of this Batman business.

"Prob­a­bly the peo­ple that scoff are the ones most sus­cep­ti­ble to being programmed/​manipulated." INDEED! :yup:
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