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ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 08:50 #1

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4 days to go...pass it on to everyone.

Details are leaking of a top-secret, global corporate power grab of breathtaking scope -- attacking everything from a free Internet to health and environmental regulations, and we have just 4 days to stop it.

Big business has a new plan to fatten their pockets: a giant global pact, with an international tribunal to enforce it, that is kept top secret for years (even from our lawmakers!) and then brought down like a Death Star on our democracies. Big Tobacco, Big Oil, Big Pharma, Walmart and almost 600 other corporate lobbyists are all in on the draft -- including limits on smoking laws, affordable medicines and free speech on the Net.

The latest round of negotiations ends in just 4 days -- but outcries in each of our countries could shake the confidence of negotiators and scuttle the talks forever. Let's get to a million against the global corporate takeover. Sign below and forward widely. Avaaz will project our petition counter on the walls of the conference so negotiators can see the opposition to their plan exploding in real time.

The deal, called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), is written to protect investors from government regulation, even if that regulation is passed in the public interest. Leaked versions suggest the TPP would undermine protections for air and water safety and reintroduce measures from the US Internet freedom attack as well as steamrolling efforts to produce generic affordable medicines. Worse still, lawmakers who fail to conform to the TPP’s rules face sanctions in an international tribunal -- a place where corporations can sue us for deals previous governments signed in secret!

Negotiators say this is just a trade agreement, written to facilitate investment and profit for all. But the leaked draft imposes so many limits on citizen protections, it's clear this "trade" agreement is skewed to put corporate profit above people's needs -- that's not surprising since it's been drafted in secret with almost 600 corporate lobbyists.

But there is hope: Australia is bucking against the international tribunal system, and New Zealand is objecting to the takeover of its medicine-pricing protections that keep drugs affordable. Massive public opposition, casting doubt over each country's ability to sell TPP at home, could derail the talks for good. Sign the petition now, and forward widely -- the delegates and lobbyists are watching the wave of opposition grow in real time:

US Candidate for Senate, Elizabeth Warren in a recent speech said: “Corporations are not people. People have hearts, they have kids, they get jobs, they get sick, they cry, they dance. They live, they love, and they die. And that matters, because we don't run this country for corporations, we run it for people." Let’s reach one million to stop the corporate takeover of our governments.

With hope,

We have four days to stop a top-secret global corporate power grab that attacks everything from a free Internet to environmental protections. This agreement is being negotiated right now by bureaucrats backed by corporate lobbyists. Click below to crash their secret meeting with our global call to kill the TPP deal:

SIGN HERE.

www.avaaz.org/en/stop_the_corporate_death_star/?bLmxjbb&v=17858
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 09:00 #2

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Thanks for that, Boots.

Fuckers! :mad:

Signed petition & will forward to others.

Tried to post a comment, but I think they're rolling in too fast for it to cope with it.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 09:47 #3

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Thank you Gilly. :cool:

Thank god! Someone caught this cause these.....geezzz it makes me :mad: .... bastards were flying under the radar and would have gotten away with it.

And a BIG thank you for passing it on.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 10:00 #4

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Shower of Bastards .......... :mad: pack of greedy little untermenchen
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 10:29 #5

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Theres a few dodgy bastards involved in avaaz.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 10:32 #6

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Spill the beans then Andy.

How the frick can they get away with pushing things through in secret like that? Things that are above the law?
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 11:42 #7

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Gilly wrote:
Spill the beans then Andy.

How the frick can they get away with pushing things through in secret like that? Things that are above the law?
It does seem very wrong.

I refuse to sign anything anymore because even with objection they still do what they want because they have the upper hand as always.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 11:42 #8

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Gilly wrote:
Spill the beans then Andy.

How the frick can they get away with pushing things through in secret like that? Things that are above the law?

There is no Law that's part of the gag! The illusion of Law is just there as a tool to help appease/fool the masses.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 11:44 #9

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Frog wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Spill the beans then Andy.

How the frick can they get away with pushing things through in secret like that? Things that are above the law?

There is no Law that's part of the gag! The illusion of Law is just there as a to help appease/fool the masses.

Try using that line if they tried locking you up.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 13:04 #10

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Fuck 'em & their law!

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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:00 #11

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Gilly wrote:
Spill the beans then Andy.

How the frick can they get away with pushing things through in secret like that? Things that are above the law?

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Avaaz

Founders: Riken Patel (Rock­er­fella Foun­da­tion), David Mad­den (World bank), Eli Pariser (Demo­c­rat Party/​Barrack Obbanma’s staff), Tom Per­riello (House of Rep­re­sen­ta­tives), Andrea Wood­house (Wordl bank)

Avaaz’s lat­est 990 form,(3) from 2010, raises a num­ber of ques­tions. Avaaz has only 16 employ­ees, and is listed as a ‘cor­po­ra­tion’ for the pur­poses of the 990 sub­mis­sion. Oddly, for an organ­i­sa­tion that receives no gov­ern­men­tal or cor­po­rate funding,(1) Avaaz received over $6.7 mil­lion in 2010, and paid its Pres­i­dent over $180,000 as a salary (still feel good about donat­ing?). On top of this, in 2010 Avaaz gave Res Pub­lica (more on them later) a $100,000 grant. Avaaz is doing extremely well con­sid­er­ing this and the fact that it was estab­lished rel­a­tively recently, in 2006. Where is all of this money com­ing from?
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:07 #12

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The SW page has been altered since btw, you'll have to use wayback engine to search up linked info there.

They pushed George Soros' bank tax a while back and totally ignored thousands of people asking them to lobby about fractional reserve banking instead. Obviously corrupted imho.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:13 #13

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Avaaz.org is a global civic organization launched in January 2007[1] that promotes activism on issues such as climate change, human rights, animal rights, corruption, poverty, and conflict.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avaaz

Avaaz also uses....media friendly stunts

Examples of stunts include "taking a herd of cardboard pigs to the doors of the World Health Organisation to demand an investigation into the link between swine flu and giant pig farms
At the 2007 G8 conference, Avaaz.org protested against the "U.S. administration [for its] 'wrecking tactics' and failure to agree to specific, binding global goals" when it came to the mitigation of global warming. At the event, Avaaz.org presented a petition signed by 355,000 people from 193 countries that supported its position

Just some reminders...
Rothschild and E3 International are set to become key players in the international carbon credit trading market, an emerging commodity market that analysts estimate could be worth up to US$150 billion by 2012.

www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/roths...arket-154464275.html

Oh and of course the Goldman Sachs too, we know their tentacles are everywhere www.goldmansachs.com/citizenship/environ...w-carbon-future.html

And the majority institutional shareholders of Goldman Sachs on the NYSE are Vanguard and Blackrock Inc.

Its Goldman Sachs World We Just Live Here 460x307



Now atm i am too lazy to scroll down find the 'tweets' ...but some of the things i quoted above, including getting rid of animal production, (if not meat for the plebs altogether lol, which I and others here like WUB think is their ultimate goal) , I recall these things being constantly repeated here...

twitter.com/DRexplore

here...

twitter.com/BJGoldsmith

and here...

twitter.com/ZacGoldsmith

Hmmm...Just saying. :umm:

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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:14 #14

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Thanks for ^

So, re them outing this TPP shit, and organising the petition - what might be their motivation?
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:22 #15

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Gilly wrote:
Thanks for ^

So, re them outing this TPP shit, and organising the petition - what might be their motivation?

I can only speculate, but power struggles perhaps?

I do think there is a group of very wealthy people that want to de-industrialize us to an extent...or at least wind back some things that have happened the last 100 years...along those lines anyway... I posted their twitters. Been looking at them for a while now...agendas straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

Perhaps there is another group of wealthy people who dont want that to happen, as their faces have been put on the dartboard too, and the others want to bring them down.

So perhaps this is rich peoples war :zorro:

And this is about trying to mobilise the masses, get them onside with the first group.

Just a guess.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:24 #16

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Gilly wrote:
Thanks for ^

So, re them outing this TPP shit, and organising the petition - what might be their motivation?

A list of people who oppose it?
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:28 #17

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Maybe - but what do we think such a list might be used for? Should fear of recriminations deter people from signing? (Too late for me - I'll be on dozens of their hit lists already. :D )

Does anyone think an overwhelming number of signatories would actually make a difference to them going ahead?

(Sorry to ask so many questions - not trying to pump anybody, just interested in people's views).
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:29 #18

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novum wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Thanks for ^

So, re them outing this TPP shit, and organising the petition - what might be their motivation?

I can only speculate, but power struggles perhaps?

I do think there is a group of very wealthy people that want do de-industrialize us. I posted their twitters. Been looking at them for a while now...agendas straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

Perhaps there is another group of wealthy people who dont want that to happen, as their faces have been put on the dartboard too, and the others want to bring them down.

So perhaps this is rich peoples war :zorro:

And this is about trying to mobilise the masses, get them onside with the first group.

Just a guess.

It sounds plausible.
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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:30 #19

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Again from the wiki link above
A The New Republic article claims that Avaaz's focus on online petitions and email campaigns may encourage laziness, transforming potential activism into 'clicktivism'.

www.davidicke.com/articles/problem-react...-just-what-they-want



tbh i dont subscibe to Ickes 'opinion' on that...perhaps it is the other way around. ;)

what you think oi, you dont mind a good rumble with their ground forces, no? :chuckle:

You think tptb want rumbles to happen like icke says, or would they rather we individually click away inside the house.

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Re: ATTENTION! This is important. PLEASE add your voice. 13 Sep 2012 14:37 #20

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Well the guy in China, looking the tank in the eye, was executed, so that sounds like poor advice to me! :roll:

If 'they' wanted us to riot, they wouldn't be giving us another option - the option of making our opinions known by polls, would they?. Whether polls are effective or not, who knows!?! :conf:

*Edit* I see that's what you were getting at, Novum (you either edited it after I started typing my reply, or, more likely, I didn't read it properly in the 1st place, having got all irritated by the sound of Icke's voice :D )
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