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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 15:22 #21

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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 15:30 #22

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Guevarista wrote:
WUB, spectacularly innaccurate?

I'd say Iranian funding, support and training of Hizbollah, or pro Assad Syrian forces, amongst others support my theory.

Novum, i'm not a Zionist in the usual sense of the word, none of what you said there makes much sense imo.
It's definitely a 'theory' that Iran is 'interventionist' and that we should trust the 'devil we know' in the Anglo-American establishment, I'll agree with you there. It's a theory because there's no facts to back it up. Historically, all the 'interventionism' has been in Iran by the so-called devil we should trust, so how you get the notion that Iran is 'interventionist', I have no idea.

US Military Interventions Since 1945
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple Qaddafi gov't.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war, defending reflagged tankers and shooting down civilian jet.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels
LIBYA 2011-? Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army.
For more background to US military intervention in Iran see:

www.us-uk-interventions.org/Iran.html

Here's a list of the countries Iran has attacked since 1945:
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 17:05 #23

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Ok so you're pro Iranian, pro Shia Islam, that's fine, speak a little about why you suppose Iranian cultural values and international relations to be far more morally upright than Anglo American or Israeli?

You'll be telling me this is 100% unbiased reporting next right?
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The Pasdaran also is believed to have connections with underground organizations in the Middle East. They have a strong influence on groups in Kuwait, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates. The largest group of Pasdaran connections is made up of 12,000 Iranians, Afghans, Iraqis, Lebanese Shiites and North Africans who either received training in Iran or during the Afghan War and are presently trained in Sudan, Lebanon, and Iran. The Hezbollah party provides intelligence, logistics and operational units in Lebanon. The second largest operation relates to Kurds, particularly Iraqi Kurds. The third largest is made up of Kashmiris, Balouchis and Afghans.

Pasdaran supports Hezbollah operations in Lebanon, Iraqi Kurdistan, Jordan and Palestine and the Islamic Jihad in Egypt, Turkey and Caucasia.

In 1995, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard held a conference with worldwide organizations accused of engaging in terrorism including the Japanese Red Army, the Armenian Secret Army, the Kurdistan Workers' Party, the Iraqi Da'wah Party, the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain and Hezbollah in Beirut for the sole purpose of providing training to these organizations supposedly to help in the destabilization of Gulf States and aid assistance to militants in these countries to replace the existing governments with Iran-like regimes.[3]

The United States State Department claims that this organization provides support for Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad in Israel. They also say that Pasadaran has given much support and training to terrorists supporting the Palestinian resistance. They are also accused of aiding the Iraqi insurgency in southern Iraq.[3]

In August 2012, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei instructed the Revolutionary Guards and Quds Force to increase their terror attacks due to what the Iranian government perceived as their interests being threatened by United Nations sanctions and the West's support of Syrian opposition.[6]
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 17:52 #24

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Guevarista wrote:
Ok so you're pro Iranian, pro Shia Islam, that's fine, speak a little about why you suppose Iranian cultural values and international relations to be far more morally upright than Anglo American or Israeli?
Please don't tell lies about me, it isn't very sporting and blatantly in contravention of the rules that you signed up to, which we're supposed to be making a special effort to be consistent with.

The second part has no relevance to whether or not Iran is 'interventionist'. It patently isn't by any reasonable measure, but it certainly isn't in comparison to those that profess to be concerned about its completely phony nuclear threat. If Iran didn't have 10% of the world's oil reserve, you would never have heard of the place, I assure you.
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 18:01 #25

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Guevarista wrote:
more morally upright than Anglo American or Israeli?

You're comparing like for like tbh :)

You could try a moral comparison with pygmies and eskimo's I suppose... :D
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 18:20 #26

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Guevarista wrote:
Ok so you're pro Iranian, pro Shia Islam, that's fine, speak a little about why you suppose Iranian cultural values and international relations to be far more morally upright than Anglo American or Israeli?
Please don't tell lies about me, it isn't very sporting and blatantly in contravention of the rules that you signed up to, which we're supposed to be making a special effort to be consistent with.

The second part has no relevance to whether or not Iran is 'interventionist'. It patently isn't by any reasonable measure, but it certainly isn't in comparison to those that profess to be concerned about its completely phony nuclear threat. If Iran didn't have 10% of the world's oil reserve, you would never have heard of the place, I assure you.
Apart from it's historical attempts at World Empire and contributions to mythology. :rofl:

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/ma...raeli-western-attack

Iran had been a monarchy ruled by a shah, or emperor, almost without interruption from 1501 until the 1979 Iranian revolution, when Iran officially became an Islamic Republic on 1 April 1979. :rofl:
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 18:22 #27

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I wonder if we moved all the Jews to America would it stop WW3?

We have plenty of extra land here so i don't see a problem with it?

NATO can not fight the entire middle east to keep such a small place safe.

I was going to make a thread about it but stopped in fear i reached my controversy limit with the pastor from Harlem.
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 18:33 #28

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Iran had been a monarchy ruled by a shah, or emperor, almost without interruption from 1501 until the 1979 Iranian revolution, when Iran officially became an Islamic Republic on 1 April 1979. :rofl:
Shall I assume for the sake of argument that you didn't read the document that I kindly provided for you to read? Let me reproduce it here, just so there's no confusion. You could also look up Operation Ajax, Mohammed Mossadegh, particularly the fact that he was Time Man of the Year in 1951, the British and Russian run coup in Iran in the 1940s, the open US support and buttressing of the brutal regime of the Shah of Iran which the CIA and MI6 installed, which ultimately led to the Islamic Revolution in 1979, and the fact that the US openly backed and armed Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran, with a US company Bechtel building the plants that he used to manufacture chemical weapons, with US support continuing for Hussein even after it was known that he was gassing the Kurdish people.

www.us-uk-interventions.org/Iran.html
1941:

Britain and the Soviet Union invade western Iran to counter the threat of expanding Nazi influence. [1]

1947:

October - Mohammed Mossadegh successfully leads the move to reject a proposal to set up a joint Irano-Soviet oil company to exploit the oil of Northern Iran. [12]

1949:

World War II having ended, Iran becomes a target of both pro-Western and pro-Soviet forces with regard to the country's vast oil reserves. [1]

1950:

General Ali Razmara becomes prime minister of Iran. [1]

Support grows for the nationalization of Iran's oil industry. [1]

The Iranian oil industry is controlled by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), later to become British Petroleum, owned partly by the British Government and partly by British citizens. AIOC's revenues from the industry are greater than those of the Iranian government. The Iranian government is receiving between 10% and 12% of the net profits, whilst the British government is receiving as much as 30% in taxes alone. The AIOC also paid low wages to Iranians, treated them poorly and effectively ruled the oil producing regions. [3]

1951:

March - Prime Minister Ali Razmara is assassinated. [1]

A bill for nationalising the the British owned Ango Iranian Oil (AIOC) company, the only oil company in Iran, is passed. Mohammed Mossadegh led the parliamentary movement driving for this change. [12]

April - Mossadegh is elected Prime minister by a large majority of Parliament. [12]

May 1st - Nationalisation of the AIOC goes into effect. Mossadegh tells the Iranian people that they "were opening a hidden treasure on which lies a dragon". [12]

Britain warns Iran that any attempt to take over British oil properties without negotiations would have "the most serious consequences." [2]

The Iranian government offers to set aside 25% of the net oil profits to compensate the British; it guarantees the safety and jobs of British employees and is willing to sell its oil through the established control system. The British refuse to listen. [3] [12]

Aided by the US government and oil companies the British institute an international economic blockade of Iran and freeze its assets. This pushes the already poor country to near destitution. From the impoverished Iran, Britain demands compensation for not only the physical assets of the AIOC, but for the initial development and for loss of future profits, regardless of the huge profits they had already made. [3] [12]

June - Attlee government begins covert plan to overthrow Iranian prime minister Musaddegh following the latter’s nationalisation of oil operations. They plan to install Sayyid Zia as Prime Minister, because although he has no popular support they believe he will give them a favourable oil settlement. [3]

Invasion is also considered, but the British government concludes that it cannot deploy sufficient troops for success. [3]

July - A demonstration organised by the Iranian Communist Party (The Tudeh) is brutally suppressed by the Mossadegh government. About 100 people die and about 500 are injured. [12]

October - Churchill, now the British Prime Minister, berates his predecessors for not using force against the Iranians. [3]

November - A British Foreign Office official reports that the 'unoffical efforts to undermine Dr. Mossadegh are making good progress'. [3]

1952:

The British government now favours establishing a dictatorship in Iran, with a 'strong man' ruling in the name of the Shah. General Zahidi, formerly imprisoned by the British for pro-Nazi activities, is identified as a suitable candidate and discussions are begun with him. [3]

July - Due to growing friction between the shah and Mossadegh over oil, Mossadegh resigns. Ahmed Ghavam takes over as prime minister. Three days of rioting ensue. [1]

Under pressure, the Shah is forced to reappoint Mossadegh. [1]

The International Court of Justice rules that it has no jurisdiction in the British-Iranian dispute over oil nationalization. [4]

August - A British embassy official meets with Zahidi and records that he is willing to take on the premiership. He suggests that Zahidi makes this known to the US. [3]

October - The Iranian government closes down the British embassy, because ot the intrigues going on there. [3]

November - The British Churchill government approaches the US for help in overthrowing Mossadegh. British pay offs have already secured cooperation from senior officers of the army and police, deputies and senators, mullahs, merchants, newspaper editors, elder statesmen, and mob leaders. [3] [12]

1953:

January - A US State Department report rules out any possibility that the Tudeh could come to power in Iran. [12]

February - A British delegation meets the CIA director and the US Secretary of State, whilst the head of the CIA's operation, Kermit Roosevelt, is dispatched to Iran to investigate the situation. [3]

April - A C.I.A. study entitled "Factors Involved in the Overthrow of Mossadegh" is completed. The study concludes that a coup in Iran is possible. [1]

May - C.I.A. and British intelligence officers meet in Nicosia, Cyprus, to draft plans for the coup. Meanwhile, the C.I.A.'s Tehran station is granted approval to launch a "grey propaganda" campaign to discredit the Mossadegh government. [1]

June - The final operation plan for the coup, agreed upon by both the C.I.A. and British intelligence, is submitted to the U.S. State Department and the Foreign Office in London. [1] [3] [12]

July – Churchill and Eisenhower give final approval to the operational plan for the coup. [1] [3]

Under pressure from the C.I.A., Princess Ashraf, the Shah's sister, flies to Tehran from France in order to convince the Shah to sign the royal decrees that would dismiss Mossadegh. [1]

The C.I.A. intensifies a propaganda effort, which included planting stories in major American newspapers, to weaken the Mossadegh government. [1]

August - In a meeting with Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf, the Shah refuses to sign the C.I.A.-written royal decrees firing Mossadegh and naming Gen. Zahedi as the new prime minister of Iran. [1]

Mossadegh, suspecting that British and American governments were plotting against him, holds a referendum calling for the Iranian parliament to be dissolved. [1]

13th - The shah signs a royal decree dismissing Mossadegh. Word of the shah's support for the coup spreads quickly in Iran. [1] [12]

15th - Mossadegh refuses to abdicate, maintaining that only parliament can dismiss him. He denounces Zahedi as a traitor and tries to have him arrested, but the CIA hide him. [12]

After hearing a prearranged signal given by the BBC in its Persian language broadcast, the shah flees to Rome via Baghdad. [1] [3] [12]

Belatedly, the CIA recruit Iranian agents to try and gain military support for the coup. The CIA make copies of the Shah's decree for distribution to the public. [12]

16th - A mass demonstration in support of Mossadegh is organised by the ruling coalition. [1] [12]

19th - With access to $1 million of US cash the CIA's Iranian agents buy a mob and stage a pro Shah, anti Mossadegh parade. British agents had also already received £1.5 million to facilitate the coup. During the march pro Shah troops take over Radio Tehran and it is announced that Mossadegh has been dismissed and General Zahedi is the new Prime Minister. This is not true, but the CIA now brings Zahedi out of hiding to install him. [1] [3] [12]

The US Military Mission in Iran supplies hardware and supplies to aid the coup. [3] [12]

A nine hour battle ensues in front Mossadegh's house, between soldiers loyal to Mossadegh and those supporting Zahedi. Some 300 people are killed and hundreds more wounded before Mossadegh's defenders are defeated. [1] [3] [12]

20th - Mossadegh, who had gone into hiding after yesterday's defeat, gives himself up. [1]

22nd - The Shah returns to Iran. [1]

The coup is portrayed to the US and British public as a response to the threat of a communist takeover, although both governments had concluded that there was no threat of this happening. [3] [12]

In the years after the coup Iran is a close ally to the USA. The Shah places the country at the disposal of the US military and intelligence organisations. Bases are set up for cold war operations against the Soviet Union across Iran's over 1,000 mile border with the USSR. [12]

Britain too builds a monitoring station on the Iran-Soviet border which is protected by the SAS. SAS soldiers are also loaned to Iran to help train the Shah's special forces for operations against Kurdish guerillas in northern Iran. [3]

For most people life under the Shah becomes one of poverty, police terror and torture. The Iranian secret police, SAVAK, created with the help of the CIA and Israel, grow to operate worldwide in putting down Iranian dissidents. [3] [12]

The CIA begins to make payments to the ayatollahs to ensure their support for the Shah. These continue until 1977, when President Carter halts them. [12]

December 21st - Mossadegh is sentenced to three years solitary confinement by a military tribunal. [1]

1954:

With Zahedi acting as prime minister and the pro-Shah army units in control, hundreds of National Front leaders, communist Tudeh Party officers and political activists are arrested. [1]

Mossadegh's minister of foreign affairs, Hossein Fatemi, is sentenced to death and executed. [1]

The British lose their exclusive oil rights. They now have 40%, US oil firms have 40%, the rest is given to other countries. The British are generously compensated for their former property. [3] [12]

The Anglo-Iranian Oil Company resumes operation. [1]

1955:

February - Iran joins the Baghdad Pact, a coalition set up by the US to oppose the Soviet Union. [12]

1963-1964:

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a religious leader, is exiled to Turkey after his arrest for speaking out against the shah's relationship with the United States. [1]

1972:

May - The CIA complies with the Shah's request to help arm the Kurds in Iraq who were fighting for independence. The Shah wanted the Kurds to be more of a drain on Iraq's resources, thus distracting Iraq from an ongoing border dispute with Iran. [12]

1973:

Iran, encouraged by the US, seeks to replace the Soviet Union as Afghanistan's biggest donor with a $2 billion economic aid agreement. Iran's infamous secret police, SAVAK, also fingers suspected Communist sympathisers in the Afghan government and military. [12]

1975:

March - The Shah, who since 1973 had desired to strengthen Iran's position in OPEC by coming to agreements with other Arab states, comes to an agreement with Iraq. The Shah cuts off all supplies to the Kurds and Iraq launches an offensive against them. The Kurds plead for help from the CIA and Kissenger, whom they believed were their allies, but neither make any response and the Kurds are defeated. 200,000 Kurds flea into Iran where they receive little humanitarian assistance. Iran later forcibly returns over 40,000 of them. The US government refuses to admit any Kurds into the US as refugees. When later interviewed by the Pike Committee about this affair, Kissinger responds: "Covert action should not be confused with missionary work." [12]

September - Prodded by Iran, which is conditioning its aid on such policies, the Afghan leader, Daoud, dismisses 40 Soviet trained military officers and moves to reduce future Afghan dependence on officer training in the USSR by initiating training arrangements with India and Egypt. [12]

1976:

Amnesty International reports that Iran has the "highest rate of death penalties in the world, no valid system of civilian courts and a history of torture which is beyond belief. No country in the world has a worse record in human rights than Iran." [3] [12]

Such is the fruit of the regime installed and backed by the US government.

1978:

Turmoil sweeps Iran. Khomeini establishes an opposition movement in Paris. [1]

1979:

January - The Iranian revolution forces the shah to leave. [1]

February - Khomeini returns to proclaim an Islamic republic. [1]

The Afghan government accuses Iran of aiding the mujahedeen gorillas trying to bring them down. [12]

October - The Shah is allowed into the United States for cancer treatment in New York. [1]

November - With Khomeini's support, Iranian students occupy the American Embassy in Tehran. Fifty-two Americans are held hostage for 444 days. The United States freezes Iranian assets. [1]

US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski then publicly encourages Iraq to attack Iran and take back the Shatt-al-Arab waterway. [5]

1980:

The United States breaks ties with Iran, bans American exports to the country and expels Iranian diplomats. [1]

April - A secret American military mission to rescue the hostages is aborted because of bad weather. Eight servicemen die in a helicopter crash. The shah dies in Egypt at age 60. [1]

August - The U.S. provide Iraq with intelligence reports that Iran would quickly collapse in the face of an Iraqi advance. At the urging of U.S.-backed Arab rulers in Kuwait, Egypt and elsewhere, Saddam Hussein unleashes a war with Iran in which hundreds of thousands die. [5] [14]

The attack serves U.S. interests by weakening Iran, where U.S. embassy personnel were still kept hostage. The U.S. do not want either side to win. [5]

To sustain the eight year war Iraq receive massive assistance, direct and indirect, from the U.S.S.R., Eastern bloc countries, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, the U.S., U.K., France, and West Germany. The Pentagon and CIA provides Iraq with satellite and AWACS intelligence on Iranian forces. The U.S. send CIA and Special Forces to train Iraqi commandos and the U.S. helps funnel billions of dollars worth of arms to Iraq. [5]

This war is the first to use chemical weapons since the US invasion of Vietnam. Between 1978 and 1988 the US ships seven strains of anthrax to Iraq. [14]

Egypt, a major recipient of U.S. military aid, sends troops, tanks and heavy artillery to Iraq. In 1980, the military dictatorship in Turkey - a major recipient of U.S. military aid - sends troops to fight rebels in Iraqi Kurdistan, freeing Iraq's army to concentrate on fighting Iran. [5]

The U.S.-supported regimes in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia also support Iraq's war effort. Kuwait's contributes over $30 billion. The U.S. sell over $20 billion worth of arms to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states during this period and allow Saudi Arabia to transfer large quantities of U.S. arms to Iraq during the war. [5]

Israel supplies arms to Iran for the war against Iraq, their stated aim, like that of the US government, is to prolong the war as long as possible. [14]

The UK openly supplies arms to Iraq, but also MI6 work with an Iranian born arms dealer, Jamshid Hashemi, to help supply foreign arms to Iran, in direct violation of the British Government's guidelines. In one deal British made motorboats, reinforced to carry heavy machine guns, are exported to Iran via Greece. These boats are used against civilian shipping in the tanker war in the gulf in the mid 1980's. [3]

During the war between the Soviets and the mujahedeen in Afghanistan the US pours billions of dollar worth of arms into the region. Some never gets to the Afghans and the Afghans themselves sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth to whomsoever will pay. Some of it ends up in the hands of the Iranian military. [12]

1981:

The hostages are released minutes after President Carter's term ends. A United States-Iran claims tribunal is set up in The Hague. [1]

1982:

After the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in June and the subsequent introduction of Western troops, Iran sends 1,500 Revolutionary guards to the Syrian controlled Bekaa valley. Soon after, Hizbullah is organised under Iranian sponsorship. [14]

1984:

March - The UN reports that Iraq has used poison gas against Iranian troops. [14]

1985:

Oliver North tells Iranian officials that the US will try to engineer the overthrow of Hussein. Until 1986 the US funnelled arms to Iran through Oliver North, Israel and Pakistan. [5] [6] [7] (See Nicaragua.)

1986:

Revelations emerge of an American deal to exchange arms for Iranian help in freeing hostages held in Lebanon. [1]

UN confirm that Iraq is using chemical weapons against Iran. [8]

1987:

Iran and Iraq start trying to destroy each other's oil facilities. Kuwait calls on the USSR and USA for naval protection. The possibility of Soviet involvement enables the US to justify becoming directly involved on Iraq's side, flagging Kuwaiti tankers in the Gulf, escorting ships carrying Iraqi oil, sinking Iranian patrol ships and destroying oil platforms, thus establishing a military presence in the Gulf. [8]

October - Iranian Revolutionary Guards fire a Stinger missile at a US helicopter patrolling the Persian gulf, but miss. The Stinger missile is a US weapon. The Iranians had bought a number of these missiles from the mujahedeen who had been given them by the US to help fight the Soviets with. [12]

1988:

The American cruiser Vincennes mistakenly shoots down an Iranian airliner over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 aboard. [1]

In the spring, Iran, with the assistance of the Kurdish Rebel Organisations the PUK and KDP, launch an offensive into Northern Iraq capturing the town of Halabja on the 15th of March. The next day the Iraqi airforce bomb Halabja with poison gas, causing 5000 deaths. [8] [9]

David Mellor, then a Foreign Office minister, was allegedly visiting Baghdad at the time. Within a month Defence Minister Tony Newton had returned to Baghdad to offer, on behalf of the British Thatcher government £340 million in export credits. Britain's trade with Iraq had risen from £2.9 million in 1987 to £31.5 million. Iraq becomes Britain's third biggest market for 'dual-use' machine tools. [8]

In August Iran and Iraq agree a cease fire. [8]

Western sources estimate casualties at nearly 400,000 dead and 780,000 wounded: one quarter Iraqi, three quarter Iranian. The cost of the war exceeded the entire oil revenue received by Iran and Iraq since they started to sell their oil on the world market in 1949 and 1931 respectively. [8]

One day after the cease-fire Kuwait decides to increase oil production, violating OPEC agreements and sending the crude oil price from 21 US dollars to 11 dollars a barrel, costing Iraq 14 billion a year in lost revenues; this at a time when Iraq and Iran needed stable prices to reconstruct. Bahrain also began to increase production. [8]

1989:

Ayatollah Khomeini dies and is replaced as the nation's spiritual leader by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The speaker of Iran's Parliament, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, is elected president. [1]

1992:

December - Elliot Abrams who had pleaded guilty to misdemeanors in the Iran- contra affair is pardoned by President Bush. He is later appointed by Bush II to lead the National Security Council office for Near East and North African affairs...... [13]

1993:

The Clinton administration starts a campaign to isolate Iran, accusing it of supporting terrorism, seeking nuclear arms and trying to derail Middle East peace. [1]

1996:

President Clinton signs a law that imposes sanctions on foreign companies investing heavily in "terrorist" Iran or Libya. [1]

1997:

Mohammad Khatami, a moderate cleric, wins Iran's presidential election. Clinton calls the election hopeful, but insists that ties are not possible until Iran renounces terrorism, opposition to the Middle East peace effort and weapons of mass destruction. [1]

Clinton asks Khatami for help in solving the 1996 bombing of a Saudi building in which 19 American servicemen died and hundreds were wounded. [1]

The Clinton administration renews an offer for talks "on the basis of equality and mutual respect." Iran rejects the offer two days later. [1]

The United States agrees to let Boeing provide Iran's national airline with parts to ensure the safety of its 747's. [1]

1998:

Khatami proposes cultural exchanges as a way to end mistrust, but rules out a government-to-government dialogue. [1]

Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright invites Iranians to join with the United States in drawing up "a road map leading to normal relations." Iran responds that such a step must be followed up by acts. [1]

1999:

The Clinton administration announces it will let American companies sell food and medical items to three countries off-limits as terrorist — Iran, Libya and Sudan. [1]

2000:

Albright announces the lifting of a ban on American imports of Iranian luxury goods. She acknowledges America's role in the 1953 coup, coming closer to apologizing for it than any American official ever has. [1]

2001:

The US alleges that elements within the Iranian Government were directly involved in the bombing of an American military base in Saudi Arabia in 1996. Tehran angrily rejects the allegations. [11]

Report by Central Intelligence Agency accuses Iran of having one of the world's most active programmes to acquire nuclear weapons. The CIA report says Iran is seeking missile-related technology from a number of countries including Russia and China. [11]

2002:

US President George Bush describes Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an "axis of evil", warning of the proliferation of long-range missiles being developed in these countries. The speech causes outrage in Iran and is condemned by reformists and conservatives alike. [10]

Russian technicians begin construction of Iran's first nuclear reactor at Bushehr despite strong objections from US. [10]

The US accuses Iran of seeking to develop a secret nuclear weapons programme and publishes satellite images of two nuclear sites under construction at Natanz and Arak. [11]

2003:

February-May - The UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) conducts a series of inspections in Iran. The country confirms that there are sites at Natanz and Arak under construction, but insists that these, like Bushehr, are designed solely to provide fuel for future power plants. [11]

Iran offers "full cooperation" with the US government on the issues of "nuclear programs, acceptance of Israel and the termination of Iranian support for Palestinian militant groups." The US turn the offer down. [30] [31]

June - White House refuses to rule out the "military option" in dealing with Iran after IAEA says Iran "failed to report certain nuclear materials and activities". But IAEA does not declare Iran in breach of Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. [11]

Thousands attend student-led protests in Tehran against clerical establishment. [10]

October-November - Tehran agrees to suspend its uranium enrichment programme and allow tougher UN inspections of its nuclear facilities. An IAEA report says Iran has admitted producing plutonium but adds there is no evidence that it was trying to build an atomic bomb. However, US dismisses the report as "impossible to believe". The IAEA votes to censure Iran but stops short of imposing sanctions. [11]

2004:

June - Iran is rebuked by the IAEA for failing to fully cooperate with an inquiry into its nuclear activities. [10]

Three British naval craft and their crews are impounded after allegedly straying into Iranian waters. The eight servicemen are released four days later. [10]

November - Iran agrees to suspend most of its uranium enrichment as part of deal with EU. [10]

2005:

August - Iran accuses Britain and the USA of fomenting ethnic strife in the oil rich region of Khuzestan near the Iraqi border. Clashes there in recent months have left several dead. [15]

September - British troops in Basra, Iraq, raid a police station to free two British commandos who were arrested whilst dressed as Arabs and in possession of bomb making materials. This region of Iraq neighbours the Khuzestan region of Iran..... [16]

Iran resumes uranium conversion experiments. Under pressure from the governments of the USA, Britain, France and Germany, this move is condemned by the IAEA, but despite reports to the contrary, Iran has not yet breached any binding international agreements including the Nuclear Non- proliferation Treaty (NPT). The IAEA's own reports confirm this. [17] [18]

2006:

February - Despite there being no evidence of Iran having breached the NPT the US government succeeds in getting them referred to the UN Security Council. [17] [19]

March - A top US military official says he has no evidence that the Iranian government has been sending military equipment and personnel into neighboring Iraq. This in stark contrast to claims made by President Bush and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. [48]

April - Iran announces that it has successfully enriched uranium on a small scale. There remains no sign of the alleged weapons program. [20]

The Russian government refuses to agree to sanctions against Iran until there is proof of Iran having a nuclear weapons program. [21]

The US government is again accused of running covert operations in Iran aimed at destabilising the country. [22]

The British government is advised by Foreign Office lawyers that it would be illegal to support military action against Iran. Jack Straw, the UK Foreign Minister, declares military action to be "inconceivable". [23]

Iran says it is prepared to fully cooperate with the IAEA, but wants its case removed from the UN Security Council's jurisdiction. US government says this is insufficient. The IAEA is still unable to find any evidence of a weapons program. Contrary to various media reports no deadline is issued by the Security Council for Iran to halt uranium enrichment. Many fear that the US government is fabricating this "crisis" as a prelude to war. [24] [25] [26] [27] [28]

June - Iran's president Ahmadinejad is widely misquoted in the western media as having said Israel should be "wiped off the map". He didn't. [29]

July - UN Security Council passes resolution giving Iran one month to suspend uranium enrichment. Iran rejects the move. [32]

September - The IAEA publicly critises as US report on Iran's nuclear aims, calling parts of it "outrageous and dishonest". [33]

The US government issue orders for a major "strike group" of ships to be sent to the Persian Gulf, just off Iran's western coast. [34] US covert ops are already said to be underway within Iran. [35]

October - British patrols in Iraq say that, contrary to US allegations, they have found no evidence that Iran is supplying or training insurgents in Iraq. [36]

Ships from the US, Britain, France, Italy, Australia and Bahrain, participate in a naval exercise in the Persian Gulf. [37]

November - Iran bears little resemblance to its portrayal in the western media. [38]

A CIA assessment finds no firm evidence of a secret drive by Iran to develop nuclear weapons, as alleged by the White House. The White House dismisses the report. [39] [42]

The US government is reportedly supporting Kurdish rebels in Iran in order to destablise the country. [40]

Iran agrees to give the IAEA access to equipment and records from two of its nuclear sites. [41]

December - Iran hosts a conference on the Holocaust. [43]

Iran's parliament votes to revise its ties with the IAEA after the UN Security Council imposes limited sanctions on Iran for its refusal to cease uranium enrichment. [44]

The US and British governments send more warships to the Persian Gulf. [45]

2007:

January - Israel prepares for a possible attack upon Iran. [46]

US forces storm an Iranian consulate in Iraq, alleging involvement in supporting insurgent forces. [47]

The US and Israeli governments are again reported to be supporting Kurdish rebels in Iran in order to put the government of Iran under pressure. [49] [50]
That, my friend, is what you call 'interventionism'.
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Re: Israel's Netanyahu urges 'red line' over nuclear Iran 03 Oct 2012 19:34 #29

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Yeah none of that is new to me really WUB, or anyone with a passing interest in the Cold War and CIA's global involvement in political regimes opposed to Soviet ideology, ie Afghanistan's Taliban or the Shah in Iran, it's good to always brush up on things though so thanks.

My point was more in relation to Iranian intervention in the Mid East and North Africa with various armed resistance groups, Hezbollah, the Pasdaran etc, it's no secret the Shiah Islamic regime has been funding and supporting guerrilla groups in other countries;
In August 2012, Aya­tol­lah Ali Khamenei instructed the Rev­o­lu­tion­ary Guards and Quds Force to increase their ter­ror attacks due to what the Iran­ian gov­ern­ment per­ceived as their inter­ests being threat­ened by United Nations sanc­tions and the West’s sup­port of Syr­ian opposition.[6]
The Quds Force has recently been implicated in a series of terror attacks against Western targets. Last year U.S. officials implicated the organisation in a failed assassination attempt against the Saudi Arabian ambassador to Washington. It was also implicated in three bomb attacks against Israeli diplomats in February, planning to attack the Eurovision song contest in Azerbaijan while two Iranians were arrested in Kenya last month for possessing explosives.

Intelligence officials believe the recent spate of Iranian attacks has been carried out by the Quds Force's Unit 400, which runs special overseas operations.

"Unit 400 seems to have been involved in all the recent Iranian terrorist operations," said a senior Western intelligence official. "The Iranian regime now seems determined to retaliate for what they regard as the West's attempts to influence the outcome of the Syrian unrest."

Iran has been actively supporting the Assad regime's attempts to suppress the wave of anti-government protests that erupted in March last year. Iranian opposition groups claim teams of experienced Revolutionary Guard officers have been flying to Damascus on specially-chartered Iranian aircraft on a weekly basis to advise the Assad regime.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middl...attacks-on-West.html

Iran and it's history etc is very interestiing.

The Shah saw himself as heir to the kings of ancient Iran. In 1967 he staged an elaborate coronation coronation ceremony, styling himself "Shah en Shah" - King of Kings. In 1971 he held an extravagant celebration of 2,500 years of Persian monarchy. In 1976 he replaced the Islamic calendar with an "imperial" calendar, which began with the foundation of the Persian empire around 500 BC.

There is a Brzezinski quote about how Feudal minded/tribal Arabs are a far safer interest to back in the region than allowing revolutionary marxist groups to grow, or something along those lines he uses that to justify the US intervention in Afghanistan in 1979, there is definitely a degree of equality between some people in the Mid East like the Monarchies of Jordan, Bahrain, Saudia Arabia and the European Nobility whom they associate with quite frequently.

Essentially I'd like to know more about Shia Islam it seems to be represented quite highly in the Elite circles, it seems more like an illuminated sect of Islam with similarities to Sufism, Iran seems to scare alot of people because of the level of religious conviction throughout the government.
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Essentially I'd like to know more about Shia Islam it seems to be represented quite highly in the Elite circles, it seems more like an illuminated sect of Islam with similarities to Sufism, Iran seems to scare alot of people because of the level of religious conviction throughout the government.
If there wasn't any oil there, the US wouldn't give two shits about Iran. The whole post-Second World War history of Iran has all been about oil. By the same token, that's why you see the US having a close and favourable relationship with the Saudis; Bush even blocked an investigation into links between Saudi Arabia and 9/11. Simply because the US have a favourable trading relationship with Saudi Arabia. Religion doesn't come into it.

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Hey WUB, there is more to it all than Oil ;)





Likely to be Iranian manufactured military Drone shot down over Israel:
www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/391944/201210...hmadinejad-barak.htm
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Hey WUB, there is more to it all than Oil ;)
You simply wouldn't be hearing about Iran on the news every day, and intermittently for the last ten years, and the US and British wouldn't have interfered consistently with its internal politics at great detriment to its stability for nearly a century, if it wasn't an oil rich nation. That's the crux of the issue.
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