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Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 06 Nov 2012 20:55 #1

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It's election day in the U.S.!!! The presidential race is as tight as they come!!!

Who will win? WHO WILL WIN??
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The one thing I really care about in this election is California Proposition 37 that would require all foods containing GMO ingredients to be labelled. As the saying goes "As goes California, there goes the rest of the states" so it is important that this gets passed and it looked like it would as the great majority of Californians said they would vote for it.

Then, Monsanto, Pepsico and Dupont reached into their pockets and pooled their chump change equalling $47 million and rammed their commericals down the throats of the American TV viewing public; telling them that their food costs would skyrocket if companies had to print up new labels.
(Reuters) - Major food and seed companies appear to be on the verge of defeating a California ballot initiative that, if passed on Tuesday, would create the first labeling requirement for genetically modified foods in the United States.

In a campaign reminiscent of this summer's successful fight against a proposed tobacco tax in California, opposition funded by Monsanto Co, DuPont, PepsiCo Inc and others unleashed waves of TV and radio advertisements against Proposition 37 and managed to turn the tide of public opinion.

Four weeks ago, the labeling initiative was supported by more than two-thirds of Californians who said they intended to vote on November 6, according to a poll from the California Business Roundtable and Pepperdine University's School of Public Policy. On Tuesday, their latest poll showed support had plummeted to 39 percent, while opposition had surged to almost 51 percent.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49689668/ns/us_news-environment/

I have to say that I am not too fussed about the presidential race as I don't trust either, but I do think that Romney would like to start a war with Iran, so if he wins I will know the apocalpyse is near.
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 06 Nov 2012 21:49 #2

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Completely agree with all this post, thanks for posting about CP37.
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 00:03 #3

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Thanks, wub. It's too early now, to know the results, but I will post the outcome when I know.
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 00:04 #4

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saw something on this on the news a while back....some farmer was bitchin that his sales would go down if he had to advertise it... all the while hes standing next to a stalk of corn that looked like a tree n had cobs on it the size of his forearm
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 07:57 #5

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Let's not forget too that it's not only crops that are GM'd - how do you feel about unwittingly eating cloned meat that defies the laws of nature? :barfonu:
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 08:00 #6

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It's funny that you just bumped this, Gilly, because I just looked this up:

www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-...21106,0,485225.story
California's Prop. 37 food labeling initiative trailing badly

SACRAMENTO -- Proposition 37, the genetically engineered food labeling initiative, was trailing badly late on election day.

With just over a fifth of the statewide votes counted, the measure was losing with 42.7% yes to 57.3% no.

It was polling strongly ahead five weeks ago but fell steadily in the polls under a barrage of negative campaign television advertisements funded by a food and biotech industry war chest of more than $44 million.

The initiative, backed by the organic food industry, consumer groups and health-conscious shoppers, would have required that fresh produce and packaged foods be labeled if they contain or might contain ingredients that had been genetically altered in a laboratory.

Supporters of the measure argued that consumers have a right to know what's in their food and that information should be made available on labels. About 60 countries around the world already require such labels, proponents stressed.

Opponents countered that labeling foods would cost families hundreds of dollars a year in higher grocery bills. They also accused the initiative of sowing fear that genetically engineered foods are unsafe.
God help us. How could you vote against this?
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 18:23 #7

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"Oppo­nents coun­tered that label­ing foods would cost fam­i­lies hun­dreds of dol­lars a year in higher gro­cery bills. They also accused the ini­tia­tive of sow­ing fear that genet­i­cally engi­neered foods are unsafe".

They're having a laugh! :mad:

They've just recently announced the introduction of some extra labelling to denote food with a highly misleading traffic-light type marking - red, amber & green, to show how healthy it is in terms of salt, sugar & fat. Dairy farmers were dead against it, saying it would make people think that products like cheese are a 'no go' to anyone wanting to eat healthily, because it would bear the same marking as, say a bag of crisps.

There was no mention of that pushing the costs up.

And that's in addition to all the minuscule print that's already on wrapping that nobody can read without a magnifying glass. They can get rid of that for me, and reduce the damned shopping bill.

It's all rigged!
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 18:39 #8

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Sadly monsanto has so much money and power that this is tough to fight. Many food products already label themselves as gmo free so it's up to us consumers to vote with our money.
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 07 Nov 2012 21:54 #9

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Gilly wrote:
"Oppo­nents coun­tered that label­ing foods would cost fam­i­lies hun­dreds of dol­lars a year in higher gro­cery bills. They also accused the ini­tia­tive of sow­ing fear that genet­i­cally engi­neered foods are unsafe".

They're having a laugh! :mad:

They've just recently announced the introduction of some extra labelling to denote food with a highly misleading traffic-light type marking - red, amber & green, to show how healthy it is in terms of salt, sugar & fat. Dairy farmers were dead against it, saying it would make people think that products like cheese are a 'no go' to anyone wanting to eat healthily, because it would bear the same marking as, say a bag of crisps.

There was no mention of that pushing the costs up.

And that's in addition to all the minuscule print that's already on wrapping that nobody can read without a magnifying glass. They can get rid of that for me, and reduce the damned shopping bill.

It's all rigged!
CONTAINS GENETICALLY MODIFIED INGREDIENTS.

Think of the expense writing that on a packet would incur. It doesn't bear thinking about.

www.latimes.com/features/food/dailydish/...21107,0,207878.story
Marijuana legalization, same-sex marriage and tax measures won big in some state votes last night, but California's Proposition 37 was among the losers.

Voters rejected the ballot initiative, which called for labeling some foods made with genetically modified ingredients, 54% to 46%. The proposition had been trailing in polls for weeks amid a campaign battle that saw a big-money push for "No on 37."

Some supporters built up passage of Proposition 37 as "a shot heard 'round the world" to bring about wider food-system reform. Many proponents of the measure saw it as an opportunity to spark a national referendum as well as challenge what some call "Franken-food" and the use of only a few seed types owned by a small number of giant companies, said Tom Philpott in Mother Jones:

"Make no mistake, Prop. 37 was the food-system equivalent to a lunge at the king. No fewer than two massive sectors of the established food economy saw it as a threat: the GMO seed/agrichemical industry, led by giant companies Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, and Bayer; and the food-processing/junk-food industries who transform GMO crops into profitable products, led by Kraft, Nestle, Coca-Cola, and their ilk. Collectively, these companies represent billions in annual profits; and they perceived a material threat to their bottom lines in the labeling requirement, as evidenced by the gusher of cash they poured into defeating it."

But Philpott pointed to thousands of projects that carry on "completely independent of and unimpeded by the machinations of Monsanto and its ilk." The food movement marches forward.

And there's always the option of moving to Colorado or Washington.
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Re: Calif GMO Label Initiative - Vote Yes on 37 08 Nov 2012 05:58 #10

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And there’s always the option of mov­ing to Col­orado or Washington.

:thumbup: Yay to the citizens of Colorado and Washington who say they don't need a doctor's note to grow or smoke cannabis.
Col­lec­tively, these com­pa­nies rep­re­sent bil­lions in annual prof­its; and they per­ceived a mate­r­ial threat to their bot­tom lines in the label­ing require­ment, as evi­denced by the gusher of cash they poured into defeat­ing it.”

It's disappointing that people did not see this as a red flag. Why would they spend so much money and campaign so hard against having to say what is in their product? They spent more on that campaign than it would cost to update their labels. Way more.

I think people are so panicky about rising costs that they can't think beyond that. That fear is more pressing than the threat of GMOs.

It would be nice to just read a label and know what you are buying. But there are ways around this, There are watchdog groups in the US that keep up to date lists of companies who use GMOs. I look at it once in awhile and keep it in mind when shopping. Some names, like ConAgra, are real small on the label, and this company has gobbled up so many smaller food companies in the last ten years that it is not even funny - Rosarita Beans, for instance. Campbells, Hunts, Pepperidge Farms, Keebler, Pepsico, Ragu, Marie Callendars, Nestles, Hersheys.... those are other names to avoid.

There are companies that will label their product non GMO, so that is another thing to look for.

I thought that mandatory labeling might make people start asking questions. Maybe not, though.

Gilly, its funny that you mention cloned meat, because I was thinking about that today. The USDA approved cloned meat for sale in supermarkets without labelling. I think this was in 2007. It was mentioned on the news stations and nobody blinked an eye. Since then, I have lived in 3 different cities, and shopped at 9 different stores. I always ask the butchers if any of the meat that they carry is cloned...... and I swear.... it is like looking into the eyes of a hen. They have no idea what I am talking about.

There is a commercial from Wal-Mart advertising their steaks. They don't come right out and say it.... what they do is feed these people steaks and ask them what they think of it. Its a new kind of steak. Its a Wal-Mart steak. I bought some meat at a Wal Mart and when I cooked it something seemed synthetict. It was right after the USDA approval... so I went online and did a search on Wal Mart cloned meat.... lo and behold.... I was not the only one who wondered if it was cloned!!

As I understood the law, the meat does not have to be labelled, but if a customer asks, they have to be told. Good luck on finding someone in a supermarket who knows or not.

I was in 2 supermarkets today. One of them had gigantic grapes in a bag marked "Welchs". At the other store, there were more behemoth grapes, these ones were loose.... to grab and bag yourself. I have seen big grapes before, but these were the size of small key limes. I don't know if they were GMO or not, but they reminded me of Stars corncob geezer who doesn't want to tell people what they are buying because they may not want it.

I feel bad that these companies are steamrolling over us. They are finding cheaper ways of producing "food" but are not passing on the savings at all. What really bothers me though is what it is doing to earth, humans, animals, and plants. Apparently, eating this stuff can effect genetics, and the plants as nature made them are being bullied out of existence. So I ask myself.... is it all about profit?

Transhumanism? Yeah, that's what I said. That's why this proposition not passing gives me kind of a heavy heart. It almost feels like it is unstoppable now. Is it intentional, or a byproduct... I don't know. I think it could be intentional.


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