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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 10:57 #1

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Does this lot pass the fact-check test?

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln 's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln ..

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln ' made by 'Ford'.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Mary land
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

:umm:
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 11:04 #2

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That's been around for a long time. As far as I know, it is all factual.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 11:16 #3

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I saw it for the first time today. I could see nothing on the list which screamed bullshit at me, which is why I asked.

I do think the author was being a bit twee at the end though
They should have said exactly what they were thinking

"A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Mary land
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn in Monroe.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 13:10 #4

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feather wrote:
Does this lot pass the fact-check test?

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln 's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln ..

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford'.
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln ' made by 'Ford'.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Mary land
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

:umm:

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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 13:33 #5

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Not feeling motivated to fact check, the only thing I'd say is I guess you could argue about the civil rights bit, certainly about whether Lincoln genuinely cared about civil rights.

I like it. It shows crazy coincidences can exist and don't have to mean anything. It looks like it was written in the first place to lead into a joke. The punchline is a bit lame though.
While it's natural to clock coincidences and speculate about meaning, sometimes weird coincidences are going to just happen. Given the volume of people you could look at, it would be surprising if fate didn't throw up freaky convergences from time to time. I wonder how many similar comparisons there are out there nobody has noticed yet.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 14:25 #6

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My brother showed me this a few weeks ago. I think it's been 'doing' Facebook and the likes for some time.

I'm far too lazy and stoopid to check the facts though. :coffee:
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 14:29 #7

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I like it. It shows crazy coincidences can exist and don't have to mean anything. It looks like it was written in the first place to lead into a joke. The punchline is a bit lame though.
While it's natural to clock coincidences and speculate about meaning, sometimes weird coincidences are going to just happen. Given the volume of people you could look at, it would be surprising if fate didn't throw up freaky convergences from time to time. I wonder how many similar comparisons there are out there nobody has noticed yet.

I agree that it sounds like coincidence theory...
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 17:09 #8

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There are some interesting theories surrounding Lincoln's death. Supposedly, he had a premonition about dying. I don't know what the "facts" are but I once read he was one of the only presidents who wasn't part of some Freemason/Illuminati-esque secret society.

What I find most interesting is Booth's escape. Supposedly, some other guy was killed, while he escaped and married under a different name. I haven't looked much into it but I heard some handwriting experts analyzed handwriting of this other guy that seemed to match up with Booths,

As far as the Kennedy connection; is it coincidence or synchronicity? Kinda like how it'd be kinda funny if Booth really escaped from Garrett's barn- wasn't Pat Garrett the one who helped Billy the Kid fake his death & escape? Can't remember, just a thought I had.

Also, of interest...Lincoln's body has been moved around a lot and the casket opened on many occasions(to make sure he's still there?) which seems kind of unusual.

My relative has linked our family to Lincoln- I'm somehow related to his mother; don't think he had any direct descendants.:)
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 18:57 #9

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K-Bone wrote:
dailyoddsandends.wordpress.com/2012/12/2...little-know-history/

As far as the Kennedy connection; is it coincidence or synchronicity?

Yeah, two or three things is a coincidence. That fucking laundry list ^^^ up there ain't no mere fucking "coincidence". That's some crazy cosmic shit in high fucking gear right there!!
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 19:12 #10

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phemohilia wrote:
K-Bone wrote:
dailyoddsandends.wordpress.com/2012/12/2...little-know-history/

As far as the Kennedy connection; is it coincidence or synchronicity?

Yeah, two or three things is a coincidence. That fucking laundry list ^^^ up there ain't no mere fucking "coincidence". That's some crazy cosmic shit in high fucking gear right there!!

Damn straight! I can only accept so much coincidence before suspicion sets in... :secret:
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 22:40 #11

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Yet Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd was part of the Satanic Collins Group (Rosicrucian / Illuminati) and said to have practiced the occult.

She's mentioned at the outset of the 2nd section of this link...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/collins.htm

Re coincidences, there was a novel about an 'unsinkable' luxury liner called the Titan hitting an iceberg about 14 years before the Titanic disaster, and there were other similarities between the story & the real event, such as the location, month, number of passengers, number of deaths (not exact matches, but close) inadequate quantity of life-boats etc.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 22:42 #12

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Gilly wrote:
Yet Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd was part of the Satanic Collins Group (Roicrucian / Illuminati) and said to have practiced the occult.

She's mentioned at the outset of the 2nd section of this link...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/collins.htm

Re coincidences, there was a novel about an 'unsinkable' luxury liner called the Titan hitting an iceberg about 14 years before the Titanic disaster, and there were other similarities between the story & the real event, such as the location, month, number of passengers, number of deaths (not exact matches, but close) inadequate quantity of life-boats etc.

Well, 'they' are nothing if not fair about brutally culling us. I mean...fair warning. :coffee:

EDIT: I presume you have seen all the 'coincidences' people have spotted over the years re 9/11, from before it happened?
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 22:54 #13

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Get yer 911 coincidences out then sunshine.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 23:10 #14

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feather wrote:
Get yer 911 coincidences out then sunshine.

What? Here? :umm:
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A new thread would probably be best I suppose.

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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 23:17 #16

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feather wrote:
A new thread would probably be best I suppose.

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Haven't we done it all already? I could be wrong...but I'm pretty sure. :chin:
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 23:35 #17

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Have we?
Oops, I seemed to have missed it.
Sorry :(
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 09 Feb 2013 23:43 #18

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There wasn't much to it. A lot of 'predictive programming' and TV shows from what I recall. Some interesting bits about dates though...I'm sure it was here. I'll have a nose round.
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Lincoln & Kennedy potential spookiness. 10 Feb 2013 09:41 #19

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Ooh, more coincidental stuff which coincidentally involved Lincoln's son...

John Wilkes Booth's Brother and Abe Lincoln's Son

Edwin Booth, perhaps unfairly known today as the brother of assassin John Wilkes Booth, was once upon a time known as the greatest actor in American history. In fact, certain theater historians and steampunk enthusiasts would probably argue that he still is today. His reputation as an actor was described as "mythic," and a statue of him stands in Manhattan's Gramercy Park to this very day.
That's what having a brother who killed the freaking president gets you -- in his day, Edwin was as famous as George Clooney, as classy as Clive Owen, as lusted after as Johnny Depp and as awesome as Josh Brolin. Hell, he even looked suspiciously like Robert De Niro .

... and we bet that most of you have never heard his name before today.

But there's something else ...

Where it Gets Weird:

Booth performed a heroic act, one that would have gotten him into the history books. It took place during the last months of the Civil War at a crowded train station in Jersey City.

According to the young man that Edwin Booth saved:

The incident occurred while a group of passengers were late at night purchasing their sleeping car places from the conductor who stood on the station platform. ... There was some crowding, and I happened to be pressed by it against the car body while waiting my turn. In this situation the train began to move, and by the motion I was twisted off my feet, and had dropped somewhat, with feet downward, into the open space, and was personally helpless, when my coat collar was vigorously seized and I was quickly pulled up and out to a secure footing on the platform. Upon turning to thank my rescuer I saw it was Edwin Booth, whose face was of course well known to me, and I expressed my gratitude to him, and in doing so, called him by name.

Imagine if you, as a kid, fell off a ledge and were caught by Chuck Norris. Not the wacky Internet meme Chuck Norris, but the actor you've seen on TV a million times. That's what it was like for the kid.

Where it Gets Even Weirder:

Since Edwin Booth was the kind of guy who did good deeds even when there were no cameras present, he genuinely had no idea who he'd just saved. He simply accepted the lad's gratitude, probably signed him an autograph, and spent the rest of his afternoon on a train reading a terrible fan-script the kid "happened to have on him" about William Shakespeare fighting zombies.

A few days later, Booth received a letter of commendation from Adam Badeau, an officer to the staff of General Ulysses S. Grant. It turned out that this young man Edwin had saved was actually Robert Todd Lincoln, the son of President Abraham Lincoln.

Keep in mind, it's not like the Booth family and the Lincoln family were neighbors, always running into each other. They weren't. They didn't travel in the same political circles -- the Booths were famous theater actors; they toured the country. This incident happened on a random train platform in New Jersey. It could have been any stranger and any random kid.

That act of heroism would have gone down as the only, unlikely interaction between the Booth family and the Lincoln family, if Edwin's brother John hadn't gone off the deep end and assassinated the kid's father only a few months later, nearly killing the country.


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