There you go with the word 'utopian' again lol.

You're just trolling at this stage Mike as its self evident utopia is impossible.

Anarchism is about people who instinctively know how to act the right way on a personal level in pretty much all circumstances.
Surprisingly enough a lot of people are capable of it and do just that here today.

When things get bad people tend to put it right eventually, anarchism is merely about setting good example is all. Theres nothing ridiculously impossible or unrealistic about it at all. Every single thing you have mentioned thus far is some kind of weird cock jerking about imagined scenarios. An unproductive circle jerk I've seen all too often on many a forum now.
'Oh who will build hospitals...' seriously..WTF?

I've only asked you questions to broaden the debate beyond such trivialities, you seem unwilling to consider the questions I've raised, let alone answer them and more content instead to perpetuate the circular jerking by accusations of trolling etcetera.

If Anarchism means 3 people in a forum being anarchists and having fundamentally different interpretations of the word you'll forgive me for thinking it exactly the kind of ideology that leads to the excesses of individualism so evident in RA's opening post.

And by the way the bolded is closer to "Moralism" than Anarchism.

Mike wrote:
Theres people who like to think they change things by violence Mike and theres guys willing to sacrifice themselves on a cross to make their point.

Call it anarcho-moralism if you like lol.

Mikey got his fangs into you in Venice did he mate?

Mike wrote:
lol hardly, if anything it was the other way around but our differences are very small.

I agree
So did you have a religious upbringing or something?

Mike wrote:
I didn't no. I've lived as a kid through a few different cultures that were religious though, I've seen islam,buddhism and christianity.
My own parents were atheist.

andyh wrote:
And there's nothing wrong with that opinion. But I think many anarchists feel that ultimately the state would need to be overthrown with force, because the status quo would never go down without a fight. And people might think it's legitimate to deploy violence against property or even people if they believe it is just. Alexander Berkman tried to assassinate some boss who was using armed guards to protect scab labour to break a strike because he felt it was legitimate to kill someone who was using force to subjugate working people. Some people take class war as a literal war.
I think it's particularly pertinent in conspiracy circles where people believe the ptb do worse than even most anarchists believe they do.
I'm not disagreeing with your stance or advocating violence, just pointing out that other people might believe at some point things get physical, if only because the state will act to stop itself being undermined.

Fair do's, there's a lot of good stuff in the Religious traditions, mainly because they dominated such large periods of human history, but they have and continue to stifle and negatively influence evolution in various ways imo.

dogsmilk wrote:
Yep thats fine, its pretty obvious people believe all sorts of stuff.
Personally I'd call people like that marxists/revolutionaries.
I don't expect the people to actually be capable of fighting the state in any small numbers and large numbers would simply tilt the applecart regardless without violence.
People change with the times, you can't look at history books to see how to do things now.

Mike wrote:
Absolutely, mikey himself I know is disgusted with the church.
He basically follows a religious 'ideal' just as I tend to follow an anarchistic 'ideal'. Theres very little between us in that respect.

There's also the fact their so fixated on the "next world", their "paradise", they generally forget all about their stake in this one.

Mike wrote:
Thats the religious zealots yes.

The reasonable crowd believe they have to work for it.

Is lack of education to blame for this behavior in Uganda?

Yet we wonder why the majority of people in the west support the system and always keep it afloat.

.......... wrote:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin

What will anarchists do with violent criminals? Will there be a prison system? Will prisoners be their own prison officers? Will anarchism eradicate evil from the world?

Col. Trautman wrote:
Make them build hospitals...even if we don't need any more hospitals!

oioioi wrote:
Hospitals?I don't follow you.

Col. Trautman wrote:
I'm not a leader, don't follow me.