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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 20 Jul 2013 16:13 #1

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The cruellest thing about the benefits cap is not that it could make thousands of people homeless or force more families to depend on food banks (three of these open every week). It’s that it’s not really about people on benefits at all.
By Laurie Penny Published 20 July 2013 8:54
Source: New Statesman

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Nick and Margaret with some of the "stars" of their BBC show. Photograph: BBC


The camera may not lie but sometimes it tells truths you weren’t expecting. As the government’s flagship benefits cap is rolled out across the nation, amid protests from homelessness charities, women’s rights groups and food banks already overwhelmed by demand, the BBC is devoting hours of its prime-time schedule to pitting the underpaid against the unemployed. The spectacle of one single mother telling another in the tin-can aisle at the supermarket that she’s greedy because she wants her kids to have a hot meal says a great deal about modern Britain. It tells us whose suffering matters and whose children will never have their dinner dissected for our scorn on national television.

The BBC1 programme Nick and Margaret: We All Pay Your Benefits (11 and 18 July, 9pm), echoing the rhetoric of the Department for Work and Pensions, pits “taxpayers” against “shirkers” and asks how we can “make work pay”. Of these gristly little semantic nuggets of state propaganda, “making work pay” is the most noxious – a mantra that’s incanted by every jobsworth Tory in every debate, in line with the logic that if one repeats a lie for long enough it will function as truth.

Taking away benefits will not “make work pay”. The reason why work doesn’t pay is not that benefits are too high. It is that wages are too low. The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics show that, with the rising cost of living, there have been 40 consecutive months of contraction in real wages in the UK. In many occupations, the basic pay is too low to cover rent, food and bills, especially in London and the south-east, where housing costs are out of control. This is why a large proportion of housing benefit is paid on behalf of those who are in work, straight into the pockets of private landlords.

Then there’s “the taxpayer”, a phrase that is deliberately misused to imply that only those in waged work pay taxes. Everybody who buys a warm Cornish pasty puts pennies into the Treasury. Drawing an arbitrary distinction between “taxpayers” and “people on benefits” implies that those who rely on state support are taking money directly out of the pockets of workers, when they are being supported by a system to which we all contribute, which is there to help all of us should we find ourselves ill or unemployed.

The anxiety to separate the interests of “taxpayers” from those of the unemployed falsely suggests that unemployment benefits are now the main drain on the state. Despite savage welfare cuts, state spending on unemployment remains high because unemployment remains high, for the simple reason that one cannot “incentivise” people into jobs that aren’t there. A far higher proportion of state spending goes on subsidising tax cuts for multinational corporations and arms dealers, maintaining our nuclear weapons programme and having a military presence abroad. “Taxpayers”, though, are not being invited into the homes of devastated Afghan families, taken on tours of the Trident base or shown around the mansions of offshore millionaires and asked to make judgements about how their taxes are being spent. The idea is preposterous. Poor people are supposed to make moral judgements about other poor people only. We can afford to offer Vodafone billions in tax breaks but God forbid some kids in Ipswich get a second-hand PlayStation.

That’s the judgement call that representatives of the working class are invited to make in We All Pay Your Benefits, deciding whether or not the unemployed are being indulged, as Nick and Margaret, a pair of well-spoken, pension-age presenters, ride around in a taxi prattling on like something out of a David Lynch film. For most of the show, the camera leers at the jobseekers but the truly fascinating characters are those who have been invited on to the show to judge.

Their anger that their hard slog has not raised them above the level of a family on Jobseekers’ Allowance is distressing to watch. Clearly they all work hard – for not enough money and with few prospects of improving their circumstances as rents rise and essential services are dismantled. It is hardly the fault of a disabled single father-ofthree that a care worker who runs her own business is still struggling to cover the bills. But that is the only conclusion that this programme and this government are permitting us to voice.

On any other channel, a programme such as this could be written off as a crass cash-in on public mistrust of the welfare system, treating the unemployed as a telegenic cross between criminals and animals in a zoo. That it was given the green light by the BBC, a publicly funded and supposedly impartial broadcaster, indicates something more. It suggests a culture shift: the wilful misdirection of public anger towards those who least deserve it.

The cruellest thing about the benefits cap is not that it could make thousands of people homeless or force more families to depend on food banks (three of these open every week). It’s that it’s not really about people on benefits at all. They aren’t the voters this government is interested in attracting. It’s about placating public rage and persuading people who would vote for a tin of beans if it had a Tory ribbon on it that this government is tough and in charge.

Like any pack of bullies, the Conservative Party likes to prove its strength by picking on the weakest people within reach. In this case, the targets include single mums and the mentally ill. That tens of thousands of children will spend their school years going to bed hungry because of this policy is incidental. The benefits cap is first and foremost a public relations exercise. With a former PR man for Prime Minister, what else would it be? Behind the relentless campaign of spin, though, is the truth – and the truth is that those on benefits have nothing, absolutely nothing, to be ashamed of.
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 20 Jul 2013 16:32 #2

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Sounds a bit like that idiotic 'Saints & Scroungers' nonsense they used to peddle. This is by no means a new stance from the beeb and the likes, I'm afraid.

I think they're just sore because people on a tight budget are much more likely to scrutinise their outgoings and realise that a television licence really isn't something anyone actually needs.

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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 20 Jul 2013 16:43 #3

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It's amazing how easily people can have the wool pulled over their eyes.

There are millions of people doing jobs all over the country.

Many of these jobs have piss poor pay.

Millions of these jobs are subsidised by tax credits (but the people that do them are still poor).

Millions of people are unemployed.

Only 500,000 jobs are available, many of which are temporary and part-time.

In order to make work pay, do you:

(a) improve labour conditions for the people in work, or;
(b) force people on benefit to work for nothing?

Difficult one, isn't it? Take your time, Great Britain, don't rush into answering too quickly...
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 13:33 #4

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I have come to the conclusion that many of these "Jobsworth Tories" are not really motivated by concerns about their tax rates or the supposed laziness of the so-called slackers.

They are in fact cruel and twisted misanthropes that can only measure success by how much better off they are than the most vunerable. They are incapable of joy and contentment in their own lot and so in their ennui and spite they see the degradation and hardship of others as proof that they have made it. Conversely, they admire the rich and aristocratic because it reflects their own desires.

Hence Downtown Abbey and commemoratives plates of the royal afterbirth.
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 14:01 #5

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I was on a scheme years ago called employment training and you got your dole + £10 extra for working 8-9 hours a day.

ET = extra tenner :(

I will never be treated like a slave again.

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who is the grey hared bloke in that photo? ive seen him on an advert he's a miserable old shit.
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I have come to the conclusion that many of these "Jobsworth Tories" are not really motivated by concerns about their tax rates or the supposed laziness of the so-called slackers.

They are in fact cruel and twisted misanthropes that can only measure success by how much better off they are than the most vunerable. They are incapable of joy and contentment in their own lot and so in their ennui and spite they see the degradation and hardship of others as proof that they have made it. Conversely, they admire the rich and aristocratic because it reflects their own desires.

Hence Downtown Abbey and commemoratives plates of the royal afterbirth.

Divide and conquer. Thats the name of the game, keep the stupid at each others throats so as to avoid taking the heat for the real crime thats taking place right under everyones noses.
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 14:09 #7

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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 14:09 #8

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i dont mind looking at poor people on the side of the road but i dont want to smell them too, i have the driver roll up the windows.
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 14:21 #9

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So how many of you pay your licence fee then?
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shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

All of us. None of us. Some of us. Most of us. Few of us. Many of us do and don't at the same time.

Which answer ticks that box?
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It's Hunger Games Lite eh?

The using the poor to entertain the opulent.
Disgusting stuff.
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mikey mikey wrote:

Watch the last two minutes and then click below

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Sad to hear that.

He is 1,000 times more effective when not shouting, spluttering and drooling imo.
I know it's part performance and that's the schtick that got him noticed but for me, it diminishes his message.
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shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

All of us. None of us. Some of us. Most of us. Few of us. Many of us do and don't at the same time.

Which answer ticks that box?

I bet you do. You all whinge and complain about the BBC but probably pay their licence fee.

I dont BTW
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The BBC is colluding in the government’s attack on benefit claimants 21 Jul 2013 14:40 #15

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shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

TV Tax you mean.

NB: I don't cos I don't live in the UK ;)
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shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

Data mining? :roll:
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shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

Not me.

But then, I don't watch the shite to begin with, save the odd bit every now on then online. I do have a telelvision, which I use to watch DVDs on, so therefore do not require a licence.

And I'll tell you something else, it's the best £150.00 I've never spent too.

Granted, people continuing to pay to be brain-washed is a bit daft, but then if we all stopped tomorrow, they'd just find some other way to rake it back off us. A big part of the problem imo, is people not even realising that it is an option not to have one...that's how brain-washing works, see?

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No tv here.
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shake wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

All of us. None of us. Some of us. Most of us. Few of us. Many of us do and don't at the same time.

Which answer ticks that box?

I bet you do. You all whinge and complain about the BBC but probably pay their licence fee.

I dont BTW

Do you pay income tax and VAT and vote by the way scum? :D
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andyh wrote:
shake wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
shake wrote:
So how many of you pay your licence fee then?

All of us. None of us. Some of us. Most of us. Few of us. Many of us do and don't at the same time.

Which answer ticks that box?

I bet you do. You all whinge and complain about the BBC but probably pay their licence fee.

I dont BTW

Do you pay income tax and VAT and vote by the way scum? :D

Do you. Scum?
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