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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:05 #21

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I'm really not sure about the death sentence Stars. It's a moral dilemma. On one hand I'd like to set fire to them, or lock them in a cupboard and slowly torture them for weeks. On the other hand, I think it's wrong to kill unless you are defending yourself or your family. If you kill somebody after they've committed the crime, well, that's no longer defence.

Much as I can see the logic in that lesley, I am of the belief that any pedo who destroys a childs life, should be hurt very badly indeed and then fucking killed in some horribly grotesque way.

I can't be swayed from that view either.

I can see where you're coming from. The problem we have in the UK, and in other parts of the world, is that pedos who commit these crimes can't be cured. I'm not necessarily comfortable with the death sentence as I don't trust our legal system enough to not make mistakes. But, I'm definitely not comfortable with these people being allowed to roam freely. The only solution I can think of is castration, but I'm not sure if that would kill sexual urges 100%. Also, women can be pedos too, so I don't think they can even be castrated. I'm inclined to think that they should be locked up for life, but that it should mean life.

Saying that, if I knew for 100% certain that someone was a pedo, I would want to see them punished by death.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:15 #22

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I am also conflicted. I wouldn't support the return of the death penalty, not only due to the room for human error, but also because of the room for human corruption - the potential planting of evidence to frame an innocent party.

I don't believe murder is right, or justifiable. But I know that wouldn't stop me from doing whatever it took to destroy anyone who tried to hurt my children.

Think 'Sloth' in Se7en.

What's sickening too, is the number of people in authority who are (possibly) complicit to some degree in so many instances where a child is abused. They may not have taken part in the deed, but they've allowed it / turned a blind eye / covered for it. None of those people is fit to walk free among civilised people imo. Not ever.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:20 #23

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The potential for planting evidence also bothers me too.

The legal system in this country (and others) is corrupt and can't be trusted. We have people at places like the BBC who have covered for the likes of Saville walking free, but there are people who have been wrongly imprisoned for various offences.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:23 #24

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I agree with points made by yourself and gilly in those posts but I was leaning more towards a 'system' whereupon if you know for certain that a pedo is indeed a pedo, then you bypass the legal system altogether and make up your own rules. Right or wrong, that's my take on the subject.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:44 #25

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Like Sketti said... agree with both points but when you know for a fact I'd like to see public hangings come back (but only have after they've been tortured within an inch of their life).

Edit: I haven't seen any of the guys comment on this :conf: is it just a "mother bear" thing? (<- meant to lighten the mood a bit)
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:45 #26

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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:49 #27

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Edit: I haven’t seen any of the guys com­ment on this Confused is it just a “mother bear” thing? (← meant to lighten the mood a bit)

They're just scared that we might cut their knackers off.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:51 #28

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Edit: I haven’t seen any of the guys com­ment on this Confused is it just a “mother bear” thing? (← meant to lighten the mood a bit)

They're just scared that we might cut their knackers off.

:killinme: Oh the guys here seem nice enough though and I wouldn't peg any one of them that I've talked to do doing something that deserving of death... the only reasons they have to wear an iron cup to protect their toys for is when we're all PMS'ing at the same time :D
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:51 #29

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:

Saying that, if I knew for 100% certain that someone was a pedo, I would want to see them punished by death.

I'm with you there
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:52 #30

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Yes, hand them over for the parents to see to. Seems fair.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 20:56 #31

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StarsChildren wrote:
I can respect that.
That's why I offered up the "torture to the brink of death then leave them to fend for themselves" business, then you're really not killing them, they have a chance to make it out of the woods before they do some good and be the food source for a few animals who may be hungry :)

With a few tweaks, I can get behind this idea.

I am against the death penalty because of mistakes that can be made. But I have always thought that if it was me that had been wrongly accused and sentenced; I would choose being put to death over being imprisoned.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:02 #32

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But I have always thought that if it was me that had been wrongly accused and sentenced; I would choose being put to death over being imprisoned.

Can't say i'm with you on this one :chuckle:
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:02 #33

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albie, I have seen you about in the past, up to no good. You might think that your lack of face gives you anonymity, but actually it is how I recognized you.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:02 #34

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^ See, I'm not so sure about just how much of a punishment prison is to some people. I don't think it's necessarily like The Shawshank Redemption.

I know a good few years back, I was bloody annoyed to hear that the riots at a Manchester prison, started in their games & TV room. I had no freaking games or TV at the time, due to having been robbed by some of those bastards! But the prisoners had!!!

And that soft arse Richard Madely, telling the people off on his programme because Myra Hindley had been refused a request to keep a pony. Parents have ripped their hearts out for decades over that bitch slowly torturing their babies to death, and all their whereabouts haven't even been revealed, but soppy bastards are saying, "Don't be mean. Give her a pony". FUCK OFF Richard!!!

Sorry - just felt a rant come on! :emb:
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:12 #35

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^ See, I’m not so sure about just how much of a pun­ish­ment prison is to some peo­ple. I don’t think it’s nec­es­sar­ily like The Shaw­shank Redemp­tion.

I know a good few years back, I was bloody annoyed to hear that the riots at a Man­ches­ter prison, started in their games & TV room. I had no freak­ing games or TV at the time, due to hav­ing been robbed by some of those bas­tards! But the pris­on­ers had!!!

You mean that I could be getting free cable and maybe internet, too? And a bed? Hmmm. :postwhore:

I liked the prison in Goodfellas. If I could have a working kitchen, that would be okay.

I spent a night and a half in the pokie. (it was a mistake, I promise). And the food was shit and I swear that someone peed in my oatmeal. In the cafeteria, it was like this :bat:

You had to eat and not say a word, and I saw firsthand the consequences of that. It was a horrible, horrible place and the women in there made me so sad. 2 days was enough for me. I think I would have died of natural causes if it had been much longer.

I hear the men have it much better though.

Of course.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:18 #36

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Gilly wrote:
And that soft arse Richard Madely, telling the people off on his programme because Myra Hindley had been refused a request to keep a pony. Parents have ripped their hearts out for decades over that bitch slowly torturing their babies to death, and all their whereabouts haven't even been revealed, but soppy bastards are saying, "Don't be mean. Give her a pony". FUCK OFF Richard!!!

Sorry - just felt a rant come on! :emb:

What the actual fuck? I completely missed that, but the guy is a nob, so anything's possible I suppose.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 21:34 #37

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Ok, male perspective. If someone did owt to either of my girls I'm sure I'd want/could rip their throat out. However my abused daughters would then also have a murderer for a dad. I'm not gonna be asking the state to murder on my behalf, goes somewhat against the grain. Not sure what the answer is but I'm sure what it isn't...ever.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 22:08 #38

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StarsChildren wrote:
Edit: I haven't seen any of the guys comment on this :conf: is it just a "mother bear" thing? (<- meant to lighten the mood a bit)

Death sentence? Toughie, so I'll offer 2 examples:

Huntley - to be kept fed and watered, offered medical care. Preferably kept somewhere padded and safe. Reason? Remorse. He's wracked by it and has tried to top himself on several occasions. Personally I like the idea of that guy spending many, many years to come thinking about what he did. I'm sure his mental health will deteriate until he's a dribbly, gibbering wreck of a human and he'll go insane. Death is too quick in such a case as his. I don't like the idea of him returning to the source to soon.

Gang of sub-humans - really can't be arsed to list their maggot names. In Reading a few years ago 2 school girls, whom a London drug gang had assumed stiched them up in some way, were kidnapped, drugged, then raped front and back before being taken to a local park and shot through the head. 1 girl survived and the 'men' involved were arrested, charged and eventually convicted. Through out the case it was just a big laugh to them. When they went to prison they went being proud of what they did. Not 1 ounce of regret or shame. They loved it.
For them I'd take a leaf out of Saddam Hussiens book and put a bullet through their head. Afterwards I would make their familes pay for the bullets and give them 10 mins to remove the bodies or I'd feed them to stray dogs.

True, the 'men' from example 2 would get a quick trip back to the everlasting but I think humans like that are glitches in our species and should be removed toot-sweet.

<soap box kicked back under table>

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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 23:35 #39

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Thanks guys...

Oi, I can understand what you mean, you wouldn't want them to have a murderer as a dad... and I can respect your view. It just brings conflict into my mind for several reasons. On one hand, I can agree but on the other hand I'd rather (personally) have a parent who was a murderer if they got rid of that kind of scum.


Hugo, I see both cases. One having to live with it, for some, would be a worse kind of punishment. And for some it would, I know in some of the jail systems over here (hell, a lot of 'em) peodo's basically have to be put in solitary because the other "criminals" who do have murder behind them and robbery and so on have some sort of moral compass and do beat the living shit out of them on a daily basis if they have access to them...so going 10 years getting the crap kicked out of you for what you did, might be a good punishment. But often times, they're not in there for 10 years...sometimes they don't even go to jail, they get slapped with a fine, put on a sexual offenders list, and let walk.
And I can understand the second example you gave. And while I do agree a bullet in the head would be a lovely thing, I'd rather take people like that apart piece by piece and then leave them.


There are females who hurt innocent kids and men who do... the women are harder to punish I think, harder to catch and pin evidence on. Not because their female, but because their female and they don't really leave any evidence behind like a man would...know what I mean? Not saying men at stupid, but they leave more, or can leave more evidence behind than a woman.
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Re: A David Icke miracle 22 Oct 2012 23:39 #40

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its fine to kill people for justice, but not revenge.
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