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Re: Theory on Aliens 16 Aug 2012 21:27 #21

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Cheers, that's very interesting is it not?
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Re: Theory on Aliens 16 Aug 2012 22:11 #22

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Eyes-Wide-Open wrote:
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But can Evolution be trusted did Dinasaurs really get wiped out by meteors or was it "the flood" that nearly every ancient culture and religion refers too did Annunaki splice us hence we all are somewhat humanoid e.g Aliens, Humans etc for a start they have found dinasaurs bones with flesh still on that date them too be alive not so long ago and footprints I will find source later...

Personally I don't believe in Evolution for a start carbon dating doesn't hold it's own :P

The base model can be trusted, though it is a theory that needs some modern reevaluation. There have been some cases where species were witnessed adapting and changing right before the eyes of the Scientific and Naturalist communities. I'm reminded of a species of Anole (Small insectivore lizards) from the Bahamas. They were wiped out on some small islands during 2004, after some harsh hurricanes. Scientists thought it would be interesting to test the evolutionary model by dropping a few on each island, and seeing what happened. To their surprise, they adapted rather quickly. Some adapted smaller hind legs to deal with the dense foliage. Having done so, they were more agile. It's not the first documented case of something like this happening. Shifts in species and adaptation in some cases is faster than traditional evolutionary models.

It makes sense that animals would have the ability to rapidly adapt. The climate of the planet is never a constant. It always changes, and always will. Factor that in with natural disasters, and shifts in geophysical formation, and they would have to be able to do that, or go extinct.

What you are talking about is known as micro-evolution also regarded as Natural Selection that in no way proves Evolution if they could prove macro i.e one species changing into a complete other then Evolution would be true... It's like the DNA of humans and how some are superior they had better DNA from the parents the same way we inhertit colours of eyes and hair... If there is a pack of tigers that can run really fast and among it are a few slow ones the slow ones will inevitabley be easier to be killed for example and so the faster ones will breed leading too stronger muscles etc wether slow twitch or fast but you get my basic jist... :P

I'm aware of what it's called, but thank you. Evolution doesn't work the way you're describing it. In the base model, none of the creatures just change into a completely new and unique creature. It's a change that occurs over several generations. Almost always, there there are residual/vestigial organs, appendages, bones, etc. For example, humans still have a tailbone leftover from a common ancestor of the great ape that once had a tail.

On a genetic level How a creature develops, depends on several variables (Climate, food/water, competition, predators, disease, etc). Not all of the creatures of that particular species changes or evolves either. Some could be in an environment where their physiological and psychological forms are perfectly suited, hence why there are still ancient armored fish, and newer, faster, sleeker fish today. Others of that same species could have left that environment, which forced them to begin to adapt to new territory. Those adaptations begin to get singled out through natural selection as you've gone over. At that point it's down to the allele frequencies of individuals within a given population, as to whether the new genetic variations propagate or not. If it works out, the process which creates a new species could be started.

I still think the base model of the theory is a good place to start from, but like I stated previously, it needs some modern reevaluation.
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:00 #23

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dubmeup wrote:
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It's like the DNA of humans and how some are superior they had better DNA from the parents
Please enlarge on this, I'm all ears....

Sometimes spider sense turns out to be right eh......
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:21 #24

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If aliens did arrive, and gawd knows what form they may take, how would we communicate?

We can't even hold a decent conversation with dolphins, we've studying them for years , and we share a planet.
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:25 #25

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If aliens did arrive, and gawd knows what form they may take, how would we communicate?

We can't even hold a decent conversation with dolphins, we've studying them for years , and we share a planet.

Speak for yourself. :coffee:

They're not to be trusted, by the way. :secret:
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:31 #26

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Ab Origine wrote:
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If aliens did arrive, and gawd knows what form they may take, how would we communicate?

We can't even hold a decent conversation with dolphins, we've studying them for years , and we share a planet.

Speak for yourself. :coffee:

They're not to be trusted, by the way. :secret:

Sorry babe, forgot about your delfiniphobia.

But come on Abs, did you sit and chat to a dolphin tonight about Van Persie moving to United? I did , and they know nowt about footie.
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:34 #27

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jhado wrote:
Ab Origine wrote:
jhado wrote:
If aliens did arrive, and gawd knows what form they may take, how would we communicate?

We can't even hold a decent conversation with dolphins, we've studying them for years , and we share a planet.

Speak for yourself. :coffee:

They're not to be trusted, by the way. :secret:

Sorry babe, forgot about your delfiniphobia.

But come on Abs, did you sit and chat to a dolphin tonight about Van Persie moving to United? I did , and they know nowt about footie.

Yeah...they'll do that. Get you all comfortable and chat about things they know you're interested in. That's how they get you, see?
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:36 #28

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Ab Origine wrote:
jhado wrote:
Ab Origine wrote:
jhado wrote:
If aliens did arrive, and gawd knows what form they may take, how would we communicate?

We can't even hold a decent conversation with dolphins, we've studying them for years , and we share a planet.

Speak for yourself. :coffee:

They're not to be trusted, by the way. :secret:


Sorry babe, forgot about your delfiniphobia.

But come on Abs, did you sit and chat to a dolphin tonight about Van Persie moving to United? I did , and they know nowt about footie.

Yeah...they'll do that. Get you all comfortable and chat about things they know you're interested in. That's how they get you, see?

I've got a wet patch on my settee now too, bloody dolphins.
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:40 #29

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I really like this guy's take on aliens. I'd like to hang out with him over a couple of beers :alc: , a doob :psketti: , and perhaps some magic mushrooms.... :jane:


I mean, seriously, maybe they are made of water! :dunno:
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 21:52 #30

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I really like this guy's take on aliens. I'd like to hang out with him over a couple of beers :alc: , a doob :psketti: , and perhaps some magic mushrooms.... :jane:

I mean, seriously, maybe they are made of water! :dunno:

Can I come?
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Re: Theory on Aliens 17 Aug 2012 22:16 #31

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Of course, jhado! The more the merrier! :cheers: :hookah
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it."
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Re: Theory on Aliens 30 Dec 2012 00:27 #32

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Yeah I always considered aliens to be more advanced and evolved than us so they might look different because of that and also they are from somewhere else so they could look totally different or alien if you pardon the pun.
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Re: Theory on Aliens 23 Jun 2013 13:14 #33

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The idea of 'aliens' is a complete misnomer, and completely diverts the attention away from a huge amount of evidence, written over a period of hundreds, if not thousands of years, that points to the phenomena being very much closer to home.

Is it just a coincidence that in the space age of the 20th and 21st century, that we're seeing hi-tech craft traverse the skies?

Was it just a coincidence that in the early part of the 1900's that actual flying ships, anchors and all, were being spotted?

Is it another coincidence that in medieval times people were reporting seeing witches on broomsticks?

Or that between the 1600's - 1800's, where nature worship was rife, people were seeing, and being abducted by (and being taken on either terrifying or enlightened journeys) man size bunny rabbits and shape-shifting horses?

Or in biblical times where people often reported encounters with angels or demons? And still are in heavily influenced religious areas.

You get my point :thumbup:
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma,
a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
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Theory on Aliens 24 Jun 2013 08:25 #34

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I think it is safe to assume that yes, they would be structured like us.
Let's not forget that elements are universal, and organic compounds such as carbon and oxygen are needed for life, and they form specific bonds with each other.
I guess we can speculate that it's possible that under different conditions and a different star they may behave differently...but i don't see it as likely.
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