I have no argument.

The Rodin coil is the shape of a Torus, it's torus not Taurus


I'm not sure SR that Torus is anything but a shape

Two years ago I met Marko Rodin through a mutual acquaintance. Mr. Rodin shared some of his results with me at that time. It became clear to me that Mr. Rodin’s work was a synthesis of numerical patterns which had previously been overlooked by conventional science and mathematics. In hopes of bridging the gap between Mr. Rodin’s discoveries and conventional science, I put forth an analytical framework in which mathematical formulae generate the numerical patterns of the Rodin Torus. These formulae suggested that the Rodin Torus lies not just on the surface of the “doughnut” shape, but into the interior as well; in other words, the Rodin Torus is three dimensional.
markorodin.com/rodincoil/2013/06/russell-p-blake/

Now stop it SR.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=rodin+coil&sou...oAw&biw=1600&bih=783

Torus www.google.co.uk/search?q=rodin+coil&sou...783#q=torus&tbm=isch

www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/rodin.htm

By Blake.

The Rodin Coil

The Rodin Coil is a toroidal—or doughnut-shaped—form wound by wires in a pattern consistent with the number patterns discovered by Mr. Rodin. Toroidal shapes wound with wires are commonly used for inductors in electrical circuits, often for use in transformers. However the pattern of winding in a Rodin Coil is radically different from conventional toroidal coils. Experimenters have produced some samples of the Rodin Coil to measure the effects of this new approach to winding wires around a torus.

To understand these effects it is necessary to review just a little electrical theory. When a current is passing through a wire it creates a magnetic field around the wire. When a wire is coiled like a cylindrical spring, as though wrapped around a pencil, the magnetic fields from the turns of the coil reinforce each other to increase the strength of the magnetic field. When the coil is bent into a circle, so that the ends meet, the majority of the magnetic force is concentrated inside the coil. This is considered a benefit in electrical circuit design, since stray magnetic fields can upset the operation of other parts of the circuit.

In a conventional coil the windings lay one after another just like the windings of a cylindrical spring. In a Rodin Coil, the windings lie on the surface of the torus, but do not lie consecutively adjacent to each other. Instead they reach along the surface, through the central, doughnut hole area, and 30 degrees short of directly across the torus. This forms, in addition to the wires on the outer surface, a crisscrossing circle of wires in the center of the torus. (The central figure formed by the wires in the doughnut hole is really a polygon of 24 sides for each completed wrap of the coil: so many sides it is considered a circle.)

Due to the central circle of wires in a Rodin Torus, it naturally creates a greatly increased magnetic field in the center of the torus, when compared to a conventional coil wound with the same amount of wire. In addition the field generated is much more coherent, in the sense of being much more sensitive to a particular frequency of applied current. These properties are the basis for useful applications of the Rodin Coil, as well as for any limitations in its use.

All this having been said, it is worth noting that no one has as yet created a coil precisely conforming to Mr. Rodin´s exacting recommendations, all of which derive from the numerical patterns he has discovered in the decimal number system. The effects of a really well constructed Rodin Coil remain untested.
markorodin.com/rodincoil/2013/06/russell-p-blake/

I can see how that was confusing. The Torus shaped coil that was made, was not a coil based off Vortex Mathematics, that was what I was trying to get across.

Stop what? What is it that I'm doing that you're finding difficult?

I'm trying to point out certain things to you, and is namely that the coil that has been produced is not a Vortex Mathematics based Torus coil. The Torus coil that has been produced has been done so using the concept of fractals. So how then, is it possible that Blake is discussing the coil that has been produced (as you suggested) and not Vortex Mathematics? It isn't.

As you have now finally admitted, nobody has been able to produce a coil that conforms to the vortex method. What has been produced is entirely different, albeit similar.

Nobody has been able to produce a Rodin Coil, what has been produced is a coil that conforms to fractal mathematics. Why then, do they talk about Rodin Coils and use fractal coils to illustrate it?

I'll ask you again. Stop what?

SilvaRizla wrote:
The Rodin Coil

The Rodin Coil is a toroidal—or doughnut-shaped—form wound by wires in a pattern consistent with the number patterns discovered by Mr. Rodin. Toroidal shapes wound with wires are commonly used for inductors in electrical circuits, often for use in transformers. However the pattern of winding in a Rodin Coil is radically different from conventional toroidal coils. Experimenters have produced some samples of the Rodin Coil to measure the effects of this new approach to winding wires around a torus.

To understand these effects it is necessary to review just a little electrical theory. When a current is passing through a wire it creates a magnetic field around the wire. When a wire is coiled like a cylindrical spring, as though wrapped around a pencil, the magnetic fields from the turns of the coil reinforce each other to increase the strength of the magnetic field. When the coil is bent into a circle, so that the ends meet, the majority of the magnetic force is concentrated inside the coil. This is considered a benefit in electrical circuit design, since stray magnetic fields can upset the operation of other parts of the circuit.

In a conventional coil the windings lay one after another just like the windings of a cylindrical spring. In a Rodin Coil, the windings lie on the surface of the torus, but do not lie consecutively adjacent to each other. Instead they reach along the surface, through the central, doughnut hole area, and 30 degrees short of directly across the torus. This forms, in addition to the wires on the outer surface, a crisscrossing circle of wires in the center of the torus. (The central figure formed by the wires in the doughnut hole is really a polygon of 24 sides for each completed wrap of the coil: so many sides it is considered a circle.)

Due to the central circle of wires in a Rodin Torus, it naturally creates a greatly increased magnetic field in the center of the torus, when compared to a conventional coil wound with the same amount of wire. In addition the field generated is much more coherent, in the sense of being much more sensitive to a particular frequency of applied current. These properties are the basis for useful applications of the Rodin Coil, as well as for any limitations in its use.


All this having been said, it is worth noting that no one has as yet created a coil precisely conforming to Mr. Rodin´s exacting recommendations, all of which derive from the numerical patterns he has discovered in the decimal number system. The effects of a really well constructed Rodin Coil remain untested.
markorodin.com/rodincoil/2013/06/russell-p-blake/

Blake discussing the 'coil'.

When I say 'stop it' I mean stop looking for an argument, I know the actual exact coil has not been 'constructed' as now posted twice.

But the coils in use, called 'Rodin Coils' are based on his design 'torus' 'vortex' without the exact mathematics.
The coils have been created without the exact decimal number system, still have created power because of the torus design though the exact mathematical formula produced by Rodin will likely make greater use of power.

So I'm not disagreeing with you SR, it's just what's in circulation as 'Rodin coil' thought without the vortex mathematics still have unusual properties because of the torus doughnut vortex design without the exact mathematical formula.

I don't know what's stopping an engineer or someone else being able to produce the exact Rodin Coil to for the mathematical vortex thingy?

Blue_Tackler wrote:
I'm not looking for an argument, when I said argument, I just meant your viewpoint.

This is what I'm trying to say, I feel as if the whole thing is a bit of a swizz. You are repeating what Rodin says that the "Rodin Coil" is a coil based off of his Vortex Mathematics system and it isn't. Its based off (as my video explains to you) fractals. Rodin has stated they haven't been able to produce a Rodin Coil - I don't know why either, I mean, there are engineers looking at it and they have the calculations so where's the problem? Yet they present this fractal coil as a Rodin Coil and that isn't what it is.

There are similarities between fractals and Rodin's system and its very apparent that fractals have been used to produce the coil because he has admitted they can't produce a true Rodin Coil. He's taken the concept of fractals that somebody else sussed out some time ago and used it to create an efficient coil, but then he's saying its proof of his Vortex Mathematics and it isn't, its proof a fractal mathematics that we know work anyway. Do you know what I'm saying? It seems like a con to me, although he did create a fractal coil.

Did you read this....

The following is from the Jean Louis Naudin website I suggest ou have a look at the vast array of information and experiements he has constructed and of the information provided at his website

created on 09/28/97 - JLN Labs - last update on 09/28/97

Notes from Jean-Louis Naudin This device uses the "possible" emission of a curl-free-A potential which radiates from the Rodin coil both to its inside or center space and outside and beyond into space. The device is being under tests and I can't confirm this fact today. Also I give you this electronic diagram for your information and I take no responsiblity concerning the supposed characteristics (Faster Than Light (FTL) transmissions, E.T. communications

Obviously if you hold all the B-Field inside the coils of the torus, and then put something else in the center region outside the coils, you can get some additional potential and field energy there in the center of works. You can also get similar propagation outside the coil, with effects on distant objects.

Rodin is apparently going by elementary electricity concepts but augmented by excellent native intuition. What he really is doing is attempting to separate the A-potential (i.e., the magnetic vector potential A) from the B-Field, and utilize the curl-free A-potential as an independent field of nature in the central "crossover" region. It is know that it is possible, the well known Aharonov-Bohm effect depends upon precisely this separation...¯

In the Rodin's document about the coil design:

A winding pattern for a torus which creates Synchronized Electricity. By winding in this manner, you orient the electrons moving through the windings and thereby minimize random collision of electrons, as well as heat, friction and reluctance. The right and left doubling circuits (beginning and ending at position 1; and, beginning and ending at position 2) conduct the flow of electrons in opposite, parallel diagonal directions. The dotted lines (beginning and ending on numbers which are multiples of 3) represent the gap spaces, the equal potential major grooves, which separate the winding.

Today, according to my first series of test, I can say that this coil have some interesting spec:

Obviously the center crossover region is active ,.. .A long ferrite rod placed through the center of the Rodin style coil change the value of the inductance.... So, the center region in Rodin style coil is quite active...¯

I can confirm experimentaly this fact now, also more tests are planned soon.

Rodin Coil Experiment

You may see also some patents about EM transmission using the curl free A field

www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/rodin.htm

Blue_Tackler wrote:
No I didn't, but it is the results I would expect from a fractal coil

I can't really say that I know what this is ?

jnaudin.free.fr/html/crlarxtx.htm

I thought that the Rodin coil as per the vortex mathematics was a 3d fractal coil.
The difference being the 3d.

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Its a schematic for a receiver and transmitter. Its actually very interesting, the "Rodin Coil" in the Xmitter schematic is actually a fractal antenna

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Riiiiiight

I understand what you mean now. A fractal antenna is still 3d, it transmits in 3d afterall, its just that we represent it in 2d. Like drawing a cube, a 3d object represented in 2d.

I found this webpage the person seems to be making a Rodin coil.

www.firepinto.com/fr_rodin_coils.html

I think that it creates a strong magnetic field in the hole of the torus, which is stable, thus we have the electricity supply to the coil, we also have the magnetic field in the hole.
Both of which can be redirected, it means we have more than we had?

I suppose the nearer to the mathematic formula we are the greater the magnetic field becomes. (in the hole)



So the magnetic energy is free ?

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Four magnetic fields are created, two are created inside the torus that cancel each other out, a very minimal one is created on the outside of the torus and the strong field is created in the hole in the middle. All of these fields are not stable, shifting from + to - very rapidly.

None of the fields are free energy, all of them are created as a bi-product of passing a current through the coil (connecting it to a power source like a battery)

Hmph, but the bi-product is 'collected' and usable, instead of being wasted, if it can spin a wheel/ball in a hole, then that spinning can be used to create more energy, so it's at least harnessing the bi-product, a product that is not costing more electricity to use?

The field appears to be a vacuum for magnetic energy, it could suck it in from outwith.

Blue_Tackler wrote:
It works in the exact same way as a standard coil in principal (this is how electrical motors work), it is just more efficient. It does not harness or generate any free energy. It is not an over unity device.

Light bulbs can be illuminated wirelessly by a simple dipole antenna cut to the correct wavelength.

In principle it is a good idea - however the frequency used is critical when considering health implications. The higher the TX frequency the more risk of microwaving the brains of humanity.

Wise Haven wrote:
Which is why I always make sure to insulate and ground my antennas!