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Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 05:46 #1

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My suggestions:
Sorted initially by the presentation medium, then sub categorised by broad topic headers (or we'd end up with hundreds).
and yes, they're arranged alphabetically because I'm that freaking anal at times. :P


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Web Link Zone page sug­ges­tions 12 Jun 2012 05:57 #2

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feather wrote:
My suggestions:
Sorted initially by the presentation medium, then sub categorised by broad topic headers (or we'd end up with hundreds).
and yes, they're arranged alphabetically because I'm that freaking anal at times. :P


Main Headings
Audio/Visual
Blogs
Fora
Social Media

Sub Categories
Commentary
Documentary
Education
Environment
Extra Terrestrial
Finance
Health
History
Humour
Media
Politics
Resources (Anything from reference material to GIMP, Photobucket, Converters, etc)
Skills & Tutorials
Supernatural/Occult
Technology

I'm certified dyslexic so it matters not what order your anally retentive instincts tell you to place things in...it all looks like a random collection of titles to me. :hahano:

Could you lay it out in a tree structure and then I can have a bash at setting it up along those lines. :cool:

And thanks for the positive input it's a big help! :)
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Web Link Zone page sug­ges­tions 12 Jun 2012 06:00 #3

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p.s.
I went exploring and when I clicked the "add a link" I got
"403 You are not authorised to view this resource."

I note that Monsieur Le Frog did say it wasn't ready to rock yet,
I'm just flagging it up in case it's not supposed to display that atm.


p.p.s.
It's a pity this topic is tagged onto and bumping the daft sod's thread.
Last Edit: 12 Jun 2012 06:43 by novum. Reason: change post title after splitting topic
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Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 06:35 #4

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This was split from another thread as it evolved into discussion about a link page for this site, which is probably deserves a thread of its own. Members input is welcome :)
thoreau wrote:
in the interests of fairness though perhaps we could have a sticky in the recommended reading section which lists other forums that offer the opportunity to discuss subjects of interest - these can be nominated by members here and have a short description - by having a sticky where links can be submitted we are neither stopping other places being talked about nor pushing links into peoples faces.

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We already have that facility but it's not ready for prime time you can see it by visiting the top menu > The Zone > Web Link Zone.

Logged in members will see the top menu link to the left of the listing which allows them to add links to the system. I'm a lousy librarian and collator as you have probably noticed. We need a structure which makes sense and allows us to distribute links in to meaningful and related sections. If anyone is unsure where to add a link they can use the uncategorised section and then ask the mods/admins to add a new section or move it to a relevant one.

If there is a talented collator out there please feel free to set out a structure I can use to build the link directory. :)

I have added some links to give people an idea of how it works and examples of entries including an image and short description with a link.

If members spot links which are obviously there purely for commercial activities and promotion they should report them. The community can decide whether to remove the offending link etc. That would also apply to links which are promoting activity which is illegal or offensive blar blar.

If a member doesn't want to post a link themselves for whatever reason they can open a thread or PM a mods to ask for a site to be included.

As for links to sodlikeproductions they haven't been removed from posts as far as I know, and I actually added links to the site myself because I also think people should be free to draw their own conclusions. Removing links from a banned members sig isn't quite the same thing as global censorship. The reality is that the link in the sig is more like spam as opposed to a contextual source link IMHO. Writing off all the content which has been posted on sods site would be short sighted. People reading his site will get different opinions from other members who have posted in response to the treads there, which can only be a good thing from my perspective. Reading things you don't agree with isn't going to automatically poison your mind, and may well serve to open or change it occasionally. You may even see the funny side of some of the content presented over there.

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Re: Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 06:45 #5

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Re: Web Link Zone page sug­ges­tions 12 Jun 2012 06:48 #6

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feather wrote:
p.s.
I went exploring and when I clicked the "add a link" I got
"403 You are not authorised to view this resource."

I note that Monsieur Le Frog did say it wasn't ready to rock yet,
I'm just flagging it up in case it's not supposed to display that atm.


p.p.s.
It's a pity this topic is tagged onto and bumping the daft sod's thread.

That will probably be a permissions error I will take a look at that. :emb:

EDIT:
Right that should hopefully be corrected.
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Re: Web Link Zone page sug­ges­tions 12 Jun 2012 07:08 #7

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hey frog i had a go at putting a documentary link in there, but i think i fucked up, and i get a 403 to try and edit it
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Re: Web Link Zone page sug­ges­tions 12 Jun 2012 07:11 #8

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also im pretty tired so if you wanted to just delete it

its a great idea, it looks really nice btw. good job
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Re: Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 07:55 #9

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Same as batou mate. (except I saw no means to edit the entry once posted). :conf:

I tried to post up a link for TED under 'Edu­ca­tional Websites'

The TED — Ideas Worth Spread­ing hyperlink takes me to > https://sanctumzone.co.uk/educational-blogs.html?task=weblink.go&id=7

The TED logo image does not display.

I was just tinkering, please feel free to delete the entry. :thumbup:
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Re: Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 08:35 #10

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Hey there,

Humm I can give you create permissions but there seems to be a bug in the core code which ignores the edit and publish state permissions for web links. :mad:

I could possibly hack the core code to overcome that problem but I'm reluctant to hack core files because it's not really good practice. This isn't something which can be hacked using an override technique.

Which means that members can submit a link, but the admins would need to publish or edit them. Which actually may not be such a bad thing, because it would prevent people from spamming or abusing the rights to add content to our links page. Which isn't a major concern with our community now but could be a problem as the membership grows.

I will need to have a think about that.

The best way ahead at the moment may be to create a thread where members can add links for inclusion and then Novum and I can publish, edit or add them.

The process could be...

1a: A member adds their link and then enters a post in the inclusion thread
link, image and description included
2a: Novum or Myself publish and or edit them

1b: Members could create a post in the inclusion thread
link, image and description supplied
2b: Novum or Myself would then create and publish the new link

1c: Or a combination of the above

EDIT:
I have published the links you guys added.
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Re: Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 08:58 #11

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May I suggest an easy option would be to have a thread, (like this one) where folks can drop their links for inclusion, then the admins add them to the link zone under suitable headings?

I see two advantages there.
1: Most people are now familiar with the forum posts control panel. (the link zone panel is less intuitive imo).
2: There would be a back-up location if anything goes glitchy.

Edit: I think we both just suggested the same thing. :D
Last Edit: 12 Jun 2012 09:00 by feather.
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Re: Web Link Zone page suggestions 12 Jun 2012 09:09 #12

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feather wrote:
May I suggest an easy option would be to have a thread, (like this one) where folks can drop their links for inclusion, then the admins add them to the link zone under suitable headings?

I see two advantages there.
1: Most people are now familiar with the forum posts control panel. (the link zone panel is less intuitive imo).
2: There would be a back-up location if anything goes glitchy.

Edit: I think we both just suggested the same thing. :D

I think that maybe the best way forward to be honest.

My original idea was to give members the option to get stuck in but there are some complications with that intention. As you say it's not that intuitive and further down the line it could be a problem if we had a member who wanted to spam our links page. There are actually a bunch of options which I can't make available to frontend editors without elevating permissions beyond sensible limits.

At least we have now got a process we can implement which is a step in the right direction.
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For the record, I'd be more than happy to make up clicky pics for anyone if the want them for their links.
I meant to offer that in the other thread but then a butterfly went past or somethi.........
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hey frog i had a go at putting a documentary link in there, but i think i fucked up, and i get a 403 to try and edit it

You didn't cock up mate. I'm a lazy bugger and didn't get it tested after I started setting it up.

The link you submitted has actually got a special home all of its own in the Media Zone. Here > Top Menu > The Zone > Media Zone | which ends up here > sanctumzone.co.uk/the-zone/tv-zone.html

Logged in members will see a link at the top of the menu to the left of the videos. If you click on that link you can fill in the form and add the youtube clips.

There is a thread about this feature here sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/The-Community-Ch...e-Video-Gallery.html

This also needs fleshing out and a category scheme developed so we can get the videos organised.
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feather wrote:
For the record, I'd be more than happy to make up clicky pics for anyone if the want them for their links.
I meant to offer that in the other thread but then a butterfly went past or somethi.........

We have an art director. :cool:

That sounds like a plan because some people may not be happy about creating images and stuff. Thanks for offering to help out!
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thanks frog :) I must admit I hadnt realised we already had the site set up for what I wrote in that post - now to think of some links!!
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thanks frog :) I must admit I hadnt realised we already had the site set up for what I wrote in that post - now to think of some links!!

Unfortunately our development strategy is a rather hap hazard affair due to the way the site came to life. It's not very refined but sometimes it can be interesting taking a seat of the pants approach to new things. :O :nilly: :pop:
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I think you and all involved have done an awesome job - matters not if it needs tweaking - infact the tweaking process adds something to the place :)
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Frog wrote:
feather wrote:
For the record, I'd be more than happy to make up clicky pics for anyone if the want them for their links.
I meant to offer that in the other thread but then a butterfly went past or somethi.........

We have an art director. :cool:

That sounds like a plan because some people may not be happy about creating images and stuff. Thanks for offering to help out!

GTF :P :killinme:

Clicky pics option for the other thread now up to date.

Haha don't thank me yet, wait till you see the crap on offer.
Just chipping in what little I can matey.

and I second thors opinion that you guys are doing an awesome job, the tweaks make it unique. :thumbup:
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feather wrote:
Frog wrote:
feather wrote:
For the record, I'd be more than happy to make up clicky pics for anyone if the want them for their links.
I meant to offer that in the other thread but then a butterfly went past or somethi.........

We have an art director. :cool:

That sounds like a plan because some people may not be happy about creating images and stuff. Thanks for offering to help out!

GTF :P :killinme:

Clicky pics option for the other thread now up to date.

Haha don't thank me yet, wait till you see the crap on offer.
Just chipping in what little I can matey.

I have seen the offerings and they're grand mate. I just kept my head down when I saw how many threads needed attention from a mod.

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and I second thors opinion that you guys are doing an awesome job, the tweaks make it unique. :thumbup:

Thanks folks, unique is one way of looking at it. Novum and I have probably got a few more words we could use in place of that and most of them much shorter. It is kind of interesting sometimes - we have had a few funky effects.

I noticed that the error pages need a bit of attention. :emb:
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