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Re: Transhumanism 26 Dec 2012 11:40 #161

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What we could be doing is investing in our own kids futures today, by teaching them everything we know today that counts, for the next generation who aquires problem solving hands on skills we be the ones in demand the world over, not demanding the things they wished they had or could have done.
My generation is probably the last one that will be able to do this, to be a skilless human will be a brain dead person, not knowing or caring where they sit amongst those working for nothing.

Hmmm I wouldn't say the new generation are skilless but shall we say they have skills that are not much use when push comes to shove perhaps?
They do have new skills to be fair to them but they're not skills those of us with grey hair would appreciate much :D

I believe it was my duty to invest in our childrens futures not the governments, most of what the careers dept wanted for me has been of no use to what I wanted since entering the work place.
When I came home from school after my first week at school, proud as punch. I ran excited into the kitchen where dad and gramps were sitting, I told them that the teacher was very pleased at our work, and when we all left school, she wanted us to be just like her. There was looks, then grandfather looked at dad who knodded, her said, go and tell teach, that here we do things differently.
As we are left at the fat controllers mercy, the children of tomorrow will have nothing and all other children will be working for them, until there are nothing left than old people doing nothing, we are headed that way as we speak, my system would provide something for later generations.
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Transhumanism 15 May 2013 05:07 #162

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I was talking to someone from Flipping the Pyramid a few weeks ago, and they told me about this site:

www.2045.com/

I haven't really had time to read through it or look into the background of it too much, but this should give you a general idea of what it's about:

Milestones En


As should 'Project Immortality 2045':

www.2045.com/articles/29105.html
2045

This is the time when substance-independent minds will receive new bodies with capacities far exceeding those of ordinary humans. A new era for humanity will arrive! Changes will occur in all spheres of human activity – energy generation, transportation, politics, medicine, psychology, sciences, and so on.

Today it is hard to imagine a future when bodies consisting of nanorobots will become affordable and capable of taking any form. It is also hard to imagine body holograms featuring controlled matter. One thing is clear however: humanity, for the first time in its history, will make a fully managed evolutionary transition and eventually become a new species. Moreover, prerequisites for a large-scale expansion into outer space will be created as well.

Edit: There is a video about it here:

diamondgeezer wrote:
An interesting channel 4 documentary on the subject of (scientifically achieveable) immortality, worth a watch.


I really wan't to get back into this topic of Transhumanism.

It's a total mind fuck to think that people who can survive for the next 20-30 years will get to live forever.
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Transhumanism 16 Jun 2013 11:13 #163

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Count me out!

Psychotic people are hard enough to cope with, without them being able to extend their life-span within a (possibly) invincible shell.
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Transhumanism 16 Jun 2013 11:34 #164

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That's the issue for me gilly. Few would object to sight restoration, prosthetics, electronic hearts etc but when you look into the motives of the transhumanists its all rather sinister. to say the least.
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 19:04 #165

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Google’s chief engineer: People will soon upload their entire brains to computers
rt.com/usa/google-kurzweil-singularity-brain-011/
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 22:41 #166

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Meh...tiz just the rantings of some low life wannabe transhumanist....




Oh wait...hang on a mo...
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 22:46 #167

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knobmeup wrote:
That's the issue for me gilly. Few would object to sight restoration, prosthetics, electronic hearts etc but when you look into the motives of the transhumanists its all rather sinister. to say the least.

Is it not cynical to say it's sinister?
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 22:58 #168

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Way to back up the idea you're an ignorant sob dotty ;)
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 23:18 #169

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knobmeup wrote:
Few would object to sight restoration, prosthetics, electronic hearts etc but when you look into the motives of the transhumanists its all rather sinister. to say the least.

Dubs before you call me ignorant again explain what motive is sinister about a kid getting sight restoration?
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 23:28 #170

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Play games elsewhere and with some other twat dotty. Not interested.
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 23:32 #171

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knobmeup wrote:
Few would object to sight restoration, prosthetics, electronic hearts etc but when you look into the motives of the transhumanists its all rather sinister. to say the least.

Dubs before you call me ignorant again explain what motive is sinister about a kid getting sight restoration?

Imagine the mental trauma when that wee lad opens his eyes for the first time and sees the sceptre looming over him.

Have some humanity.
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 23:38 #172

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When you think about it, the words of kuzweil there put the whole nsa/mi5 (and no doubt numerous other 'separate' 'security' services) data collecting in a different light no?
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knobmeup wrote:
Play games elsewhere and with some other twat dotty. Not interested.

Right, i know you can't explain how a kid getting sight restoration is sinister so your ignorant response is unnecessary.

You said it yourself by talking about sight restoration, prosthetics, ect....

So what i'm saying is before you start being cynical think about the 12 year kid out there who needs an artificial heart valve.

I only called you cynical because you made it clear your aware of how much medical technology falls under "Transhumanism"
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Transhumanism 20 Jun 2013 23:48 #174

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There's a saying where I grew up dotty, "i didn't fall from the tree yesterday".
Long time as a chameleon.
Learnt lots from old boy skillers by acting dumb.
This shows onething to be clear.
Your version of acting dumb does not stem from the chameleon...it stems from the troll cunt.
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Last Edit: 20 Jun 2013 23:49 by dubmeup. Reason: grammar...in honour of ire.
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Transhumanism 21 Jun 2013 00:18 #175

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knobmeup wrote:
There's a saying where I grew up dotty, "i didn't fall from the tree yesterday".
Long time as a chameleon.
Learnt lots from old boy skillers by acting dumb.
This shows onething to be clear.
Your version of acting dumb does not stem from the chameleon...it stems from the troll cunt.


That was almost poetic... :D
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Transhumanism 21 Jun 2013 13:30 #176

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Transhumanism has been going on for a long long time, we really began to augment ourselves with clothing and tools it just moved on from there.



People really only get worried when the BRAIN is mentioned :)
Thats the red line IMHO, thats when we are disturbed by it.
Even then though there are some undeniable positive aspects to it as seen in the above video, so how do you stop this...do we even want to?
Is the question really what the motives are and who will actually benefit- only the rich for example?
Will this then lead to a class driven society not just of economic level but of physical evolutionary advantage?
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Stem Cells Fall under Transhumanism?
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Transhumanism 25 Jun 2013 15:54 #178

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What do YOU think dotty?
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andyh wrote:
Transhumanism has been going on for a long long time, we really began to augment ourselves with clothing and tools it just moved on from there.



People really only get worried when the BRAIN is mentioned :)
Thats the red line IMHO, thats when we are disturbed by it.
Even then though there are some undeniable positive aspects to it as seen in the above video, so how do you stop this...do we even want to?
Is the question really what the motives are and who will actually benefit- only the rich for example?
Will this then lead to a class driven society not just of economic level but of physical evolutionary advantage?

Just watched this again, because the little lad's expression makes your heart melt.
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It does seem to be such a fantastic thing but bear in mind that video shows direct brain interface technology and it most definitely is transhumanism.
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