Mike wrote:
Grillo is mentioned in your quoted OP.
Keep desperately wriggling , everyone is watching

Could it be you know nothing about something and just copied and pasted up some bullshit in a vain attempt to look like you did?
Tell me it aint so!

Also while you're at it could you explain how Grillo is left wing environmental populism? I doubt you will because you don't know what you're talking about ofc...

andyh wrote: hahaha who is watching your wife and kids?
The thread is not about Beppe Grillo if I wanted to critique the FSM I would email it's publicist or do a thread on it specifically
3 prominent points of the Five Star Movement are Environmentalism, anti-austerity and Degrowth traditionally leftist, Social minded policies.
He adds a nationalist flavour with his Anti-immigration policies (rejecting citizenship for children of immigrants), like most populism it's a catch all, whether it has deeper darker motives say like Jobbik or Holland's Freedom party remains to be seen, I wouldn't be so arrogant as to make that assumption without knowing more about it.

Mike wrote:
Is that really necessary?

Mike wrote:
The thread is about some jerk who you have quoted who definitely does use Grillo as prime example of 'populism'.
Therefore the response is appropriate.

In fact, you have almost exclusively done nothing but quote other people, even to the extent of quoting two people who contradict each other with 'intellectual' and 'anti-intellectual'.

The only opinion you've managed to come up with of your own is ofc the insults and the stupid excuse to hide behind that you don't necessarily approve/disapprove of anything you have chosen to quote....and you call me autistic

Andyh the reason I originally wondered if you had learning difficulties is the mad way you misinterpreted what that Wiki link said.

Peron's populist movement emerging from an Intellectual Fascist Political organisation does not contradict populism being "anti-intellectual", it shows that Fascism goes under cover and assumes populist Jargon in order to implement a Fascist regime, that's CT 101, the trojan horse technique, it happened in Nazi Germany and is an obvious danger of Populism (you don't really know what you're supporting).

Grillo is an example of Populism.

That's not to say he's fascist, bad, or that the FSM is a trojan horse, he may have the best intentions, however that can not be said of other populist movements who definitely sit nearer to the Right of the political spectrum that Grillo, for instance Belgium's Freedom and People Party or France's Front National.

Mike wrote: So its populist but not populist because you say so and thats inferred...right

He does. Now STFU.

novum wrote: No.

andyh wrote:
Yeah. Let's just call them extremist or fring or cunts, eh?

andyh wrote: Again with the arrogance, he may have the best intentions, or he may just want a new Ferrari and decided politics was the best way to get one? We don't know, or maybe you're party to some information you've neglected to share with us?

mikey mikey wrote:
Or nazis or closet fascists or crypto fascists or environmentalists or national socialists or anti-intellectual or clowns or jokers or amateurs or no hopers or anything we can possibly come up with thats negative when 25% of a country the size of Italy rebel against our glorious leaders.

Mike wrote:
See the Beppe Grillo thread with the immediate BBC bias that YOU have repeated on this forum for everyone to see...

Way to go.

Do you have Autism?

Mike wrote:
Well you do keep repeating stuff.

This tendency of yours to evade answering questions and asking me only loaded questions leads me to believe you do.

Mike wrote:
Oh I evade answering questions do I?
And thats a trait of autism is it?

And I'm the one asking loaded questions

Am i right in thinking there are some rules regarding posting in the "case files" forum?

I thought this was a forum created to accumulate data/case files on various subjects, without the constant attempts at diversion or usual nonsense from the usual suspects?

Mike wrote:
We can make you your own pseudo intellectual quotes section if you like?
Complete with no replies.

I reassessed the topic and contributions made, if mods are interested in doing their job, get rid of all posts except 1-4, #14 and #25 and maybe I can get back to this topic another day without the nonsense?

Lol
Would the mods please curb their enthusiasim and form an orderly line.

you aint the boss of me