wake_up_bomb wrote:
Did you drop a couple of pills as that’s right out of character for you trying to be funny Stick to the forum searching for your info as being a comedian does not suit one.
The Ignorance that you show regarding Africa is astounding, because you’re blinkered and think everything is economic. The reason you think that is because you live and inhabit a country that is economic and not tribal, and that’s all you will ever know.
Now get your sorry white ass to Africa and start babbling on about economic factors
I would really love to see you arguing with a tribal chief that’s its economic, you need to watch that video and actually see how a lot of Africa works, not the fantasy shit you post. They are a tribal based society

Keep living the dream and posting from the bedroom.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Africa is tribal, but keep putting your head in your ass and denying it " cultural distinctions as being meaningful "
You mean like the Somalia gangs operating in the UK who come over as asylum seekers running the old prostitution and drugs trafficking
Yes they assimilated really well
The Jamaican yardies, who by comparison to some of the African countries have a good standard of living in Jamaica

Anyway I’ve a coup to plan

oioioi wrote:

No tribalism in Africa, its just a make beleive fairy tale by the bad white man

Here is a video that explains the TPP....which is exactly the same as the TAP

i saw that vice-liberia.. that place really does look like hell.. its so insane its a joke.

Fuck, this is some seriously heavy shit......

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/n...assault-on-democracy

jhado wrote:
I saw that the other day.
The pic at the top says it all.
Smug.

jhado wrote:
And all happening under our noses. Worth bearing in mind that many politicos and journos that were warning us about the EU threatening UK sovereignty were well aware of this going on. Ever wonder whether that was a diversion from this?

Do any of you expect Pat Condell to mention this?

entrangermercenary1 wrote:
Tribe/army
Potato/potatoe

I would like to ask that the Africa/Tribal issue be dedicated to its own thread.

jhado wrote:
Yup....you're not wrong there.....

Thankyou Jhads. That is indeed the course we are on. Globocorp is here already. It's now in the process of smashing any last barriers to total World dominance. The face may be of competing corporations, the reality is that the same fuckers control them all. Soon there will be no need for pretense and Globocorp will step out from the shadows. One World

Ofc, the notion of One World is a great thing. This is one of the keys to how things are done. You take a great idea that everyone would love and corrupt it. Twist it to suit your own ends. AGW being another great example.

We could stop it all in the blink of an eye ofc.

entrangermercenary1 wrote:
So African people are inherently tribal? They're born that way? White people are not tribal, we're born that way? There are no socio-economic, educational or geographic influences, black African people are just tribal by nature? Black African people are fundamentally different from white people? All Jamaicans are yardies and will try to kill you no matter what situation they find themselves in? You’re seriously claiming that Africa is not an ‘economic’ society (whatever that means)?

Let me answer those questions for you, just in case there’s any confusion.

No, African people are not inherently tribal, or no more so than other human-beings.

No, they’re not born that way, or no more so that other human-beings.

White people are as inherently tribal as African people, we are merely a product of our upbringing; ie. nurture over nature.

Yes, there are socio-economic, educational and geographic influences on the way that people turn out.

No, all Jamaicans are not yardies, and just because some Jamaicans are in gangs, it does not inherently follow that all Jamaicans are that way inclined, any more than it follows that the existence of the Mafia means that all Italians are gangsters.

Yes, Africa is an ‘economic’ society, as is every single part of the world, with the possible exception of some incredibly remote parts of the world. If you use money, and need money to survive, it’s an economic society. The economic exploitation and gut wrenching poverty experienced by most Africans is by a considerable distance the number one defining factor on the way the place turns out. If you were put in those circumstances, you would behave exactly the same way.

If you believe anything else then you’re completely deluded.

Shall I just start this thread over?

occupylondon.org.uk/eu-us-free-trade-agr...tafta-ttip-ceta-tpp/

mikey mikey wrote:
It'd probably be easier mate

mikey mikey wrote: Sorry!

To get back on topic, here are a list of existing transnational, multinational or globalist orgainsations, similar to the the TPP:

World Bank
Bank for International Settlements
International Monetary Fund
World Trade Organisation
World Economic Forum
European Central Bank
Royal Institute for International Affairs
Council on Foreign Relations
Trilateral Commission
Bilderberg Group
G8 Group
G20 Group
BRICS Conference
United Nations
North American Treaty Organisation

Here are a list of existing free trade agreements or areas:

European Common Market
European Union
GATT agreements
ASEAN Free Trade Area
Asia-Pacific Trade Agreement
Central American Integration System
Central European Free Trade Agreement
Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa
G-3 Free Trade Agreement
Greater Arab Free Trade Area (GAFTA)
Dominican Republic–Central America Free Trade Agreement (DR-CAFTA)
Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC)
Pacific accord
South Asia Free Trade Agreement (SAFTA)
Southern African Development Community (SADC)
Southern Common Market (MERCOSUR)

And here are some proposed ones:

2011 Commonwealth of Independent States Free Trade Agreement (CISFTA)
2014 Union of South American Nations (CSN)
2021 Pacific Island Countries Trade Agreement (PICTA)
African Free Trade Zone (AFTZ) between SADC, EAC and COMESA
Arab Maghreb Union (UMA)
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC)
Association of Caribbean States (ACS)
Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA)
Bay of Bengal Initiative for MultiSectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation (BIMSTEC)
Community of Sahel-Saharan States (CEN-SAD)
Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS)
Euro-Mediterranean free trade area (EU-MEFTA)
Economic Community of Central African States (ECCAS)
Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)
Free Trade Area of the Asia Pacific (FTAAP)
GUAM Organization for Democracy and Economic Development (GUAM)
Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD)
Pacific Agreement on Closer Economic Relations (PACER and PACER Plus)
People's Trade Treaty of Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA)
Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) (ASEAN plus 6)
Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO)
Transatlantic Free Trade Area (TAFTA)
Tripartite Free Trade Area (T-FTA)
China–Japan–South Korea Free Trade Agreement

This is why when you walk down any high street in any town in the country you see a Tesco, a McDonald's, a Starbucks, a Carphone Warehouse, a Primark, another Tesco, a Subway, another McDonald's, etc. It's an unintended consequence of all of these 'free trade' agreements, which are intended to give immense power to the real corporate elite, which is banking, insurance, energy, and oil. You can see the top 25 corporations in the world here:

www.forbes.com/pictures/mgl45fkfj/icbc-2/

Some electronics companies and Wal-Mart have also crept into this list, but you will see that it is dominated by these interests.

The TPP is just more crony capitalism, more dominance and power for these interests, in the guise of 'free trade' and 'free market', and all the other usual arguments that they put forward. Just like NAFTA was. I read a book called 'Bilderberg People', and it's an academic interviewing numerous Bilderberg attendees, and they just openly say that there is no way even several of the world's most significant countries working together can stand up to corporations, they named China, the United States, and some others, it's just impossible.

So the Bilderberg researcher, Daniel Estulin, stated that Bilderberg is "a meeting of people that represent a particular ideology; that ideology is of money. So the idea is not to create one world government, but rather the creation of One World Company Ltd; where the financial concerns are far more powerful than any government on earth." And that's what TPP is all about, and they're basically there now, they essentially do have One World Company Ltd already, these agreements are just cementing it even further.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
That was in no way aimed at you and I appreciated very much that you felt the need not to leave bigotry unanswered.

Just to head off some false equivalences: not all trans-national notions are bad in theory.

Medicines Sans Frontiers is an example in theory and so are the UN IF and I stress IF it follows the premise that it claims too.

Having said that, the more centralised the organisation, the greater the risk of totalitarianism.

Dub, WUB, Andyh and Sarah might agree with me here.

I'd be interested in their opinions.

mikey mikey wrote: Well, maybe Dubs is right and maybe every racialist is capable of seeing the light sooner or later if things are explained to them properly. Maybe not, maybe Merc wishes to live the rest of his life clinging to his delusional, baseless and tawdry beliefs. We shall see. Ultimately, I'm sure when it comes down to it he's not a bad guy, he's just a product of his environment, genetics and upbringing like the people in the Liberia video are.mikey mikey wrote: To give my view briefly, it's not transnationalism or globalism which is necessarily wrong as you say. The issues are (a) what the intention / agenda behind it is, and (b) whether or not the institutions are remotely accountable. You know, we have a national parliament, we theoretically have sovereignty, but it's totally meaningless because the individual has no sovereignty. The individual exercises no decision-making process within this society whatsoever, and has no impact on these institutions. You just go through life and work, consume and die. And usually working for, and buying from, the interests that control the society to further advance their power. It's been extremely well summed up by George Carlin:

Today, I don't think that you could create some racist re-education centre and suddenly see the world free of racism. What I think is that if we removed all the precursors for racism and taught all our children well, racism would shrink to be almost negligible in a couple of generations. There are ofc mahoosive stumbling blocks to that happening.

As I said, the idea of 'One World' is a sound and correct one. Unfortunately when it translates the way we see the corporations doing it, you do indeed have totalitarianism. Utterly senseless and brain dead totalitarianism at that.