wake_up_bomb wrote:
G'day Wake_Up_Bomb.

Yeah, it's 4th dimensional, shape-shifting, blood-drinking, human-sacrificing, reptilians that Icke believes runs the world by beaming down a 'matrix' from their 'spaceship', the moon.

Of course, Icke doesn't provide any evidence of such, he simply wants you to take the 'Son of the Godheads' word for it.

mikey mikey wrote:
So the Anti-Semitism on the DIF does not come from what Icke say's about the PNAC & AIPAC?

dantesrevival wrote:
No PNAC is made of jewish and Christian (Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist and Presbyterian).

RealAmerican made some claim they were all WASP despite Rice and Powel but having seen recent posts of his I am guessing that this was a gambit to elicit a "defence of whitey" and as byproduct a way to get somebody's knee jerk rebuttal to make a case that they aren't WASP (i.e. white) coz they are teh j00z.

But that is kind of hypothetical since his mask his well and truly off.

RealAmerican wrote:
I would like you to explain your U-turn regarding PNAC.

Mikey i was asking do you think what Icke is saying in this video causes antisemitism on DIF?

@ 7:30 of the video





^ Also here where Icke is talking about the mossad influence in the Iraq war ect...

RealAmerican wrote:
Oh yes. I listened but I would not describe it the way you did.

It did not convince me that he was anti-Jewish.

Certainy anti-Israel and anti-Zionist but that is not anti-jewish.

If you don't agree, please type the phrase or phrases that convince you that his anti-semitism is indisputable.

I have taken into account his writings (kindly provided by WUB) and the documentary and book by Jon Ronson.

But I agree that it is the vid you have supplied is open to interpretation.

Especially by people like rodin.

If he is indeed an anti-semite, as many suspect I would be diappointed but I would not hesitate to call him a cunt.

Now that I have answered your question, would you now explain the 180 degrees that you made on PNAC?

mikey mikey wrote:
I honestly don't think your average person who joins David Icke forum understands the difference.

People new to conspiracy theory might just assume all wealthy Jews are Zionist.

RealAmerican wrote:
Well there is confusing the two and there is conflating the two.

It is possible to confuse Zionist with Jewish if you were very uninformed but that wouldn't last long because of the ease of access to information and the number of people willing to point out that many jewish people are not zionists and many zionists are not Jewish.

On the other hand there are a number of people that intentionally conflate the two groups: they often fall into the two categories of anti-Semite and ADL-type.

The latter use the justifed stigma of anti-semitism as a weapon against valid and honest opposition to Israeli/Zionist misdeeds (e.g. calling Chomsky an anti-semite)

The former often use words like Zionist or other code words until they feel they can get away with using the word Jews. They also seek to conflate the issue in the minds of people uninformed of the difference.

Despite these depicable cunts, 75% of people on this poll on DIF know the difference and are honest enough not to conflate them.

Now could you answer my question about your u-turn on PNAC?

I AM ALL I AM wrote: Well, I don't really agree with that stuff, I'm not particularly interested in it. I think the majority of TTSSYF is pretty sound and I would prefer to see people really addressing and understanding the clandestine socio-economic systems that exist in the world rather than spending a lot of energy on things that don't really serve any purpose.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
G'day Wake_Up_Bomb.

Erm ... TTSSYF ???

Nil comprende.

What IAAIA said ^
Ya lost me there wub mate.

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