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Re:Is David Icke too 'toxic' to be a truth ambassador? 21 Jan 2014 21:57 #21

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Didn't richtv get in trouble with ofcom too or summat recently?
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Re:Is David Icke too 'toxic' to be a truth ambassador? 21 Jan 2014 23:27 #22

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Let's have a look at Ickes ideas' (eherm) 'someone else's ideas'.

Moon matrix.
Here's a review of the 'Who Built the Moon Book'
This is where Icke got the idea of the moon matrix.


Who Built the MoonI always get a kick out of the kook brigade. Now Christopher Knight and Alan Butler might get a bit bent out of shape what-with opening a review of their Who Built the Moon? book newly available from London’s Watkins Publishing with a harkening to kooks, but I can’t help myself. The very title screams Time Cubesque.

Knight and Butler do make startling cases here and are very persuasive. Their research into measurement systems and building off of combinations of pendulum movements and star movements to create methods of weight and measures make a strong case for proving how ancient cultures and civilizations were able to precisely base methods of building and construction is astounding. The correlations they found worldwide should be looked into further by archaeologists and specialists in disappeared cultures and can explain many things regarding measurements and sizes and they way they are similar from a numerical standpoint.

The problem I had with this book – and the reason I open with a nod to kookiness – is its insistence on mixing up as many numbers as possible to prove correlations between the Earth-Moon-Sun distances and sizes. If I really wanted to it wouldn’t be hard for most people to drudge up some factual numbers that can be forced into relational situations and matching segments. And while their theories are interesting indeed, playing with numbers and beating them into submission to create a match does not a solid theory make.

The far-fetchedness of the theory gets cloudier as we delve into their ideas of the Moon’s creation. All current theories of the Moon’s origin are certainly lacking in their areas – whether it’s even possible to figure out where it came from other than a few base facts is questionable. We’re making historical guesses. But by far the most far reaching, strange and astounding are the theories put forth by Knight and Butler in Who Built the Moon?

I agree with Knight and Butler’s assessment that the Earth, and life upon it, would be astonishingly different had the moon not existed. I agree with them that the Moon’s affect on our planet helped do such things as mix the “primordial soup” that spawned life. I also agree that it has a long term affect on land masses and water – hell, tides are Moon created. And I’m certainly open-minded enough to think it’s possible that something non-natural bitch smacked a part of the Earth into the sky. I’m also open-minded enough to think that maybe something that is natural bitch-smacked it as well. But Who Built the Moon? take the Death Star approach – somebody built it, as an “incubator for life”, here on Earth.

Their wackiest of theories is that mankind, an untold amount of time into the future, developed time travel. They then went back in time, built the moon and set it afloat in the sky to evolve the amoebas there millennia ago into…mankind who can develop time travel. Does anyone see the paradox here? I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around the “the moon was needed to create mankind so mankind went back in time and created the moon to create mankind and…” I think the chicken with her egg just crossed the road here.

They go on to say that the numbering systems used, and their correlations between the Sun-Moon-Earth, is a signature left behind by them to let us know that hey, we built the moon, and because you can put a few numbers together and make it look kind of neat is proof. Some of their numbers check out. But there’s tons of numbers and data out there – most of which wouldn’t have been useful for this theory so it’s not included. Again, because a few numbers add up, doesn’t mean the books are always straight.

The end result is that I found Who Built the Moon? to be an interesting read. I found Butler and Knight’s ideas to be persuasive. But then again even Gene Ray looks ok when he first says hello. It’s when you start reading further that things really start getting strange.

www.legendsmagazine.net/160/moon.htm
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Is David Icke too 'toxic' to be a truth ambassador? 23 Jan 2014 16:26 #23

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In summary then, it may be an idea for David Icke to retire from the fray and let more credible individuals - ones who have not tainted the punchbowl - take the work forward.
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Re:Is David Icke too 'toxic' to be a truth ambassador? 23 Jan 2014 18:25 #24

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Let's have a look at Ickes ideas' (eherm) 'someone else's ideas'.

Moon matrix.
Here's a review of the 'Who Built the Moon Book'
This is where Icke got the idea of the moon matrix.


Who Built the MoonI always get a kick out of the kook brigade. Now Christopher Knight and Alan Butler might get a bit bent out of shape what-with opening a review of their Who Built the Moon? book newly available from London’s Watkins Publishing with a harkening to kooks, but I can’t help myself. The very title screams Time Cubesque.

Knight and Butler do make startling cases here and are very persuasive. Their research into measurement systems and building off of combinations of pendulum movements and star movements to create methods of weight and measures make a strong case for proving how ancient cultures and civilizations were able to precisely base methods of building and construction is astounding. The correlations they found worldwide should be looked into further by archaeologists and specialists in disappeared cultures and can explain many things regarding measurements and sizes and they way they are similar from a numerical standpoint.

The problem I had with this book – and the reason I open with a nod to kookiness – is its insistence on mixing up as many numbers as possible to prove correlations between the Earth-Moon-Sun distances and sizes. If I really wanted to it wouldn’t be hard for most people to drudge up some factual numbers that can be forced into relational situations and matching segments. And while their theories are interesting indeed, playing with numbers and beating them into submission to create a match does not a solid theory make.

The far-fetchedness of the theory gets cloudier as we delve into their ideas of the Moon’s creation. All current theories of the Moon’s origin are certainly lacking in their areas – whether it’s even possible to figure out where it came from other than a few base facts is questionable. We’re making historical guesses. But by far the most far reaching, strange and astounding are the theories put forth by Knight and Butler in Who Built the Moon?

I agree with Knight and Butler’s assessment that the Earth, and life upon it, would be astonishingly different had the moon not existed. I agree with them that the Moon’s affect on our planet helped do such things as mix the “primordial soup” that spawned life. I also agree that it has a long term affect on land masses and water – hell, tides are Moon created. And I’m certainly open-minded enough to think it’s possible that something non-natural bitch smacked a part of the Earth into the sky. I’m also open-minded enough to think that maybe something that is natural bitch-smacked it as well. But Who Built the Moon? take the Death Star approach – somebody built it, as an “incubator for life”, here on Earth.

Their wackiest of theories is that mankind, an untold amount of time into the future, developed time travel. They then went back in time, built the moon and set it afloat in the sky to evolve the amoebas there millennia ago into…mankind who can develop time travel. Does anyone see the paradox here? I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around the “the moon was needed to create mankind so mankind went back in time and created the moon to create mankind and…” I think the chicken with her egg just crossed the road here.

They go on to say that the numbering systems used, and their correlations between the Sun-Moon-Earth, is a signature left behind by them to let us know that hey, we built the moon, and because you can put a few numbers together and make it look kind of neat is proof. Some of their numbers check out. But there’s tons of numbers and data out there – most of which wouldn’t have been useful for this theory so it’s not included. Again, because a few numbers add up, doesn’t mean the books are always straight.

The end result is that I found Who Built the Moon? to be an interesting read. I found Butler and Knight’s ideas to be persuasive. But then again even Gene Ray looks ok when he first says hello. It’s when you start reading further that things really start getting strange.

www.legendsmagazine.net/160/moon.htm

Sounds like the Grandfather Paradox to me, or possible the inverse of it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox
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Re:Is David Icke too 'toxic' to be a truth ambassador? 23 Jan 2014 21:12 #25

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Their wackiest of theories is that mankind, an untold amount of time into the future, developed time travel. They then went back in time, built the moon and set it afloat in the sky to evolve the amoebas there millennia ago into…mankind who can develop time travel. Does anyone see the paradox here? I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around the “the moon was needed to create mankind so mankind went back in time and created the moon to create mankind and…” I think the chicken with her egg just crossed the road here.

I think I've seen that film. I'm sure Ernest Borgnine was in it.
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