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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 11 Jul 2012 22:10 #21

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I'll just say it again wub, I really appreciate your being on this forum and the hard work you do gathering all this excellent info.
I'll be the first to buy the book when its in print, can you do me a signed copy? :D
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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 11 Jul 2012 22:24 #22

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andyh wrote:
I'll just say it again wub, I really appreciate your being on this forum and the hard work you do gathering all this excellent info.
I'll be the first to buy the book when its in print, can you do me a signed copy? :D
Thankyou. I've been following the BBC's coverage of Libor quite closely as I'm working on a book about the BBC. I forgot to mention that Marcus Agius who resigned over this scandal:

www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/02/...marcus-agius-resigns

...is a Senior Independent Director at the BBC:

www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/m...aphies/agius_marcus/

They were forced to mention this in their coverage of the issue, but they didn't exactly trumpet it, nor have they asked him to resign, as far as I'm aware. He also attended Bilderberg in 2010.

I'm sure you could forge my signature, it's pretty rubbish! I will obviously post something up on here as and when my book is available for pre-order.
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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 11 Jul 2012 22:38 #23

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www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/10/...s-financial-industry

Looks like the media are slowly...ever so slowly beginning to bite.
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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 11 Jul 2012 22:44 #24

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The Guardian do report some useful stuff, but their solution will be "oh, we need a democratically elected second chamber. That'll sort everything out". You know, like that democratically elected House of Commons has...
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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 11 Jul 2012 22:46 #25

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
The Guardian do report some useful stuff, but their solution will be "oh, we need a democratically elected second chamber. That'll sort everything out". You know, like that democratically elected House of Commons has...

Correct, its always some pathetic establishment solution with that bunch of wimps.
Pilger seems to be the only one who really has some clout, even he could do better imho.
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Re: Libor Contractions exposed as scam. Barclay's fined $453 million. 10 Aug 2012 22:46 #26

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Libor review: Wheatley says system must change
The current Libor rate-setting system is no longer a "viable option", a government-commissioned review said.

It has proposed pegging the rate to actual market data, rather than subjective submissions from banks, and introducing formal regulation.

Stronger sanctions to tackle abuse of the system are also included in the initial discussion paper, which aims to restore credibility.

Barclays was found to have tried to rig Libor rates over several years.

The review was established after the UK bank was found to have tried to manipulate Libor rates by putting in inaccurate submissions, resulting in a record £290m fine in June from both US and UK regulators.

Several other banks in other countries are also under investigation.

Headed by the managing director of the Financial Services Authority, Martin Wheatley, the review is examining how the Libor rate, the benchmark interest rate for trillions of financial contracts including some mortgages, is calculated and regulated.

Interested parties will have four weeks to respond to the proposals. Mr Wheatley aims to finalise his conclusions by the end of September.

The Treasury has said that the quick timetable will allow the government to add legislation through the Financial Services Bill, which is currently being discussed in the House of Lords.

The system is currently overseen by the British Bankers' Association (BBA), but is not formally regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) nor Bank of England.

The BBA said it was "proactively cooperating with the regulatory authorities on Libor and ... providing its research and findings so far to the Wheatley review".

"The absolute priority of everyone involved in this process is to ensure the provision of a reliable benchmark which has the confidence and support of all users, contributors and global regulators," it added.

Libor is calculated using rates submitted by a group of leading banks who estimate how much it costs them to borrow in 10 currencies and 15 lengths of loans, ranging from overnight to 12 months.
'No radical change'
Libor graphic
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Explaining the Libor scandal

The Wheatley Review suggests:

setting Libor using actual market data, rather than subjective submissions from banks
making governance of the Libor-setting process independent, for example introducing a code of conduct to establish clear guidelines concerning submissions
strengthening sanctions to tackle Libor abuse
taking calculations away from the BBA and placing them in the hands of an outside authority, such as a commercial body or an industry group
considering alternative benchmarks for at least some of the types of transaction that currently rely on Libor

"[Libor] is something that is fundamental to the smooth running of markets, and to confidence in the financial system," said Mr Wheatley.

"Retaining Libor unchanged in its current state is not a viable option, given the scale of identified weaknesses and the loss of credibility that it has suffered," he added.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19203103
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