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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:16 #41

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andyh wrote:
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I don't have a mortgage greater than 3 x our combined income.

Then how the fuck does it apply to you?

Because when I defended people for having mortgages, generally, without stipulating any details like cost to wage ratios, you said they were dickheads, without any caveat about the mathematics of it - implying it applied to every mortgagee across the board..

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You cannot buy a house that is more than 3x your salary, period.

You even quoted it yourself!!

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Oh, I'll have a look in a minute. :noway:
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:18 #42

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Post #10 lol
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:19 #43

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Gilly wrote:

Don't make me want to anwser you again till I've been to the kitchen to find booze.


Sorry but that made me laugh out loud :psketti:
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:20 #44

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psketti wrote:
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Don't make me want to anwser you again till I've been to the kitchen to find booze.


Sorry but made me laugh out loud :psketti:

LOL!!
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:22 #45

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I already have my booze ready out of the fridge on standby :p
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:23 #46

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Ah right - have drink, & am with it again now.

Yes, I take your point and see where I've tripped myself up. Sorry for that confusion, :D

Yes, but you can do that though - I've known people who've done that. (I personally don't have a mortgage that high now, and can't remember how many times our salary it was decades back - I think it was about 2.5x). I'm talking about friends & relatives. It's not that uncommon.
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:27 #47

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I already have my booze ready out of the fridge on standby :p

You would!!!

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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:33 #48

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Ah right - have drink, & am with it again now.

Yes, I take your point and see where I've tripped myself up. Sorry for that confusion, :D

Yes, but you can do that though - I've known people who've done that. (I personally don't have a mortgage that high now, and can't remember how many times our salary it was decades back - I think it was about 2.5x). I'm talking about friends & relatives. It's not that uncommon.

Decades back at 2.5x is just fine.

The issue is the way loans operate.

Islamic banking for example outlaws interest BUT you pay instalments until such time as the estimated future value is reached.

Now heres the catch, if theres ever negative equity then the bank loses and just what have the banks done to the market time and again?

Yup, plonked people in negative equity, took all the mortgage payments, then took the house too when they failed to sell it at the price which repays the loan. The bank also never had the actual finances in place for the loan in the first place...

Of course if people actually wanted a stable economy then there would be no debt because money would not be borrowed at source and we would be buying houses to actually live in them with no motive for profit from their mere purchase or to hold the same value at a later date (higher monetary denomination but same value due to inflation) .
Prices would accurately reflect what is affordable and reasonable according to true market forces instead of the whim of wanker bankers and their con game which convinces people they can somehow have an 'epic win' from it.

'The house always wins.' lol :F
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:40 #49

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No, see I agree with what you say on a wider scale - how things should be if we weren't being shafted, and I think that if most people actually worked out what they really pay, including interest, over the term of a mortgage, they'd be shocked. And things aren't right, and can go dramatically wrong.

But within the scope of how things are and taking into account what options are available (& that future average rental charges are also something that we can't foresee or control) getting a mortgage isn't necessarily always a stupid thing to do as you assert.
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 23 Aug 2013 21:43 #50

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No, see I agree with what you say on a wider scale - how things should be if we weren't being shafted, and I think that if most people actually worked out what they really pay, including interest, over the term of a mortgage, they'd be shocked. And things aren't right, and can go dramatically wrong.

But within the scope of how things are and taking into account what options are available (& that future average rental charges are also something that we can't foresee or control) getting a mortgage isn't necessarily always a stupid thing to do as you assert.

It is if its over 3x your salary :p

And if people think they can profit forever on houses and avoid going 3x over their buyers salaries then they have another thing coming don't they? :D
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 06:30 #51

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It's just people doing the best they can with what shite options are available to make a life for themselves, as opposed to dickheadedness.
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 13:16 #52

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It's just people doing the best they can with what shite options are available to make a life for themselves, as opposed to dickheadedness.

If you want to make a life for yourself, you don't put yourself in impossible debt.
making a life for ourselves would not involve bankers IMHO :D
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 14:00 #53

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andyh wrote:
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It's just people doing the best they can with what shite options are available to make a life for themselves, as opposed to dickheadedness.

If you want to make a life for yourself, you don't put yourself in impossible debt.
making a life for ourselves would not involve bankers IMHO :D

Imagine how people living in the 3rd world in shacks without food would feel.

People who wish they could be in debt if that meant they had a house to live in.
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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 14:08 #54

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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 14:36 #55

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Most people will choose the debt option even if the house is 3x salary over having your family live in one of these shacks.


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Probably the biggest piece of news in human history but don't expect the MSM to publish it 24 Aug 2013 16:14 #56

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RA in epic dumbass facepalm post again lol :)

Obviously every single person in the western world has a mortgage over 3x their salary because they all live in houses. :D
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:facepalm:


*ducks out the way to avoid a low flying andy coming in fast from the rear*

lol :D
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