pheny­lala­nine .....wont be saying that in a hurry

fizzy drink territory and aspartame was one area id thought id have grief with my son. Its bad enough he drink energy drinks ffs...and he will buy them even if i hissy fit and demand he doesnt. So i have done my best to educate. Now funnily enough, his mate had already told him that aspartame in diet drinks actually made you fatter. I said yeah i heard that too.

A compromise has been reached i guess, he drinks certain lucozade (some flavours contain it, other flavours dont ???) but even in healthy looking drinks its there...this shit....

some kids are not so aware and tbh dont really give a shit unfortunately

wildhorse wrote:
This is very true. But the fact is, this crap shouldn't even be in our food and drink in the first place, imo.

Ab Origine wrote:
I 100% agree it is nothing but a nasty poison (based on my own personal excperience with this muck) it shouldn't be ingested ever

agree guys this shit should be banned....along with them energy drinks....jus liquid crystal meths

I read a thread a few years ago on icke forum .The artical was why Aspatame was so dangerous. Apparently its only really a problem if its consumed with sugar if its aspatame by itself without sugar very harmless.

The problem is most soft drinks contain sugar and aspatame.

I've always read the ingredients of everything I buy. At one time, I wouldn't even buy anything that had sugar in it, I only bought stuff that was sweetened with honey. There was a store that I shopped at "Mrs Gooches" that would not carry anything with sugar or artifical sweetener in it. I don't know if they are still doing that.

Nowadays, I will settle for sugar over honey. But it has to say "cane sugar" other wise it is probably genetically modified beet sugar. High fructose corn syrup is in almost every processed food here in the U.S. and that is made from genetically modifed corn, courtesy of Monsanto.

I haven't yet cozied up to the taste of stevia but I woud pick that over anything manmade.

Anything that has aspartame in it:

I like bubbly water with lemon or lime, but you can also add a natural syrup to it for sweetness and flavor. I have tried several flavors of Torani and they are good, but I think you have to check the ingredients on those too, some might not be all natural. Lots of flavors to pick from and there are plenty of natural syrups on the market to play with.

nirvana wrote:
I'm not sure if that is accurate information. My understanding is that the natural cellulose which occurs can be consumed by the body. Aspartame is an artificially created cellulose product which does not react the same as the natural variety when the body tries to consume it. The chemical process that occurs when ingesting Aspartame causes the formation of formaldehyde. I think the process is actually explained in the Sweet Misery documentary in the op. I don't think the presence of natural sugar is required for that process to take place.

I won't be putting it to the test with or without sugar.

I think you might find my findings below very interesting. I have worked in this specific sector of canned beverages for some time now and would like to let you all know what I have formulated in regards to the worldwide distribution of chemicals and mass produced profit making chemical companies and the people behind them:

Firstly, some short insight into Aspartame:

It was December, 1965. Jim Schlatter, a chemist at G.D. Searle, was working on a project to discover new treatments for gastric ulcers. To test new anti-ulcer drugs, the biologists used a tetrapeptide (four amino acids) normally produced in the stomach; Schlatter was synthesizing this tetrapeptide in the lab, and one of the steps in the process was to make a dipeptide intermediate, aspartyl-phenylalanine methyl ester.
Supposedly, Schlatter spilt some of the above and later in that day licked his finger and tasted sweetness. He originally thought it to be the remaining of the doughnut he ate at lunch…. He soon realised he washed his hands a few times after his lunch and assumed it was the Aspartyl residue… So after washing several times the sweetness was still prominent.

Schlatter knew that aspartic acid and phenylalanine, which make up this product, are natural amino acids present in all proteins, so he felt it would be safe to taste the material. It was sweet! He and his lab partner, Harman Lowrie, both tasted the material in 10 milliliters of black coffee, noting the sweet taste as well as the absence of any bitter aftertaste, and recorded the results in Schlatter's laboratory notebook. His boss, Dr. Bob Mazur, convinced the company of the potential value of this discovery.

Aspartame Names:
Aspartame
N-L-alpha-Aspartyl-L-phenylalanine 1-methyl ester
3-Amino-N-(alpha-carboxyphenethyl)succinamic acid N-methyl ester
APM
SC-18862
Canderel™
Equal™
NutraSweet™
Aspartic acid (also called "aspartate") is a naturally occuring amino acid which is a component of all proteins. It is classified as a "non-essential" amino acid, meaning that humans do not need to get it from their diets since they can make it from other things in the diet. Aspartic acid is important in the synthesis of new DNA, in urea synthesis, and as a neurotransmitter in the brain. As such, its levels in the body are carefully regulated. If the body needs more aspartic acid, it makes more, using oxaloacetate from the tricarboxylic acid cycle (Krebs cycle) of energy metabolism. If the body has a surplus of aspartic acid, it converts the excess to fumarate, which enters the tricarboxylic acid cycle and provides energy.


We now therefore have a link between DNA changing, and this is where it starts getting interesting folks!

Im sure your all familiar with the name ‘Mr Donald Rumsfeld’ the secretary of defnce for the Bush administration!

Well DR was infact president of G. D. Searle & Company from 1977–1985!!

He was also CEO of General Instrument from 1990–1993, and chairman of Gilead Sciences from 1997-2001.



Gillead Sciences is the company who bought the rights to TAMIFLU from ROCHE labs inc, and these three companies together own over 89% of the drugs that are produced for worldwide health sufferers.

So forgetting the above and moving back to the Aspartame scenario, It was after all Rumsfeld, as chairman of G.D. Searle, who pressured the FDA to get Aspartame approved.

The FDA blocked its approval for ten years before Rumsfeld twisted arms and broke who knows how many legs at the FDA. Now Aspartame, an artificial sweetener as ubiquitous as it is toxic, continues to poison America and the world.
Here is a short list of some mass produced products that are sold worldwide that contain Aspartame:

Diet Coca Cola (all varieties)
Coca Cola Zero (all varieties)
Diet Pepsi (all varieties)
Pepsi Max (all varieties)
Diet Irn Bru (all varieties)
Lilt Zero (all varieties)
Sprite Zero (all varieties)
Tango (all varieties)
Tango no added sugar (all varieties)
7up Free (all varieties)
Lucozade Sport (all varieties)
Schweppes Slimline Drinks (all varieties)
Fanta Zero (all varieties)
Fanta Orange
Dr Pepper Zero
Oasis Summer Fruits Extra Light
Oasis Citrus Punch
Ribena Really light (all varieties)
Robinsons Orange Squash
Robinson’s No added sugar range
Muller Light Cherry
Muller Light Blueberry
Muller Light Raspberry
Muller Light Banana and Custard
Danone Activia Cherry
Weight Watchers Fromage Frais
Weight Watchers Toffee and Vanilla
Wrigleys Airwaves (all varieties)
Wrigleys Orbit (all varieties)
Wrigleys Extra (all varieties)
Uncle Ben’s Sweet and Sour Light
Walkers Sensations Sweet Thai Chilli
Walkers Sensations Lime and Thai Spices
Walkers Prawn Cocktail
Canderel
Silver Spoon Sweetness and Light
Silver Spoon Light Granulated Sugar
Cadburys Highlights (all varieties)
Options Hot Chocolate Drink (all varieties)



So we can see the potential sales and high production levels of the new ASPARTAME drug… Well this is just a short list of 100 of thousands of products around the world. The scary thing is that clearly these people/companies are focused clearly on profit and ASPARTAME was put on to the market as a sweetner…. So explain why the following (another short list) contain ASPARTAME!


Johnson and Johnson Pharmaceuticals
J&J/Merck Consumer Pharmaceuticals: Mylanta Natural Fiber Supplement, Sugar Free.
Lederle Laboratories
Centrum, Jr.
McNeil Consumer Products
Children’s TYLENOL acetaminophen Fruit Flavored Chewable Tablets
Children’s TYLENOL acetaminophen Grape Flavored Chewable Tablets
Children’s TYLENOL acetaminophen Cold Multi-Symptom Chewable Tablets
Junior Strength TYLENOL acetaminophen Fruit Flavored Chewable Tablets
Junior Strength TYLENOL acetaminophen Grape Flavored Chewable Tablets
PEDIACARE Cold-Allergy Tablets for Ages 6 to 12
PEDIACARE Cough-Cold Tablets for Ages 6 to 12
PEDICARE Children’s Cold Relief Tablets * TYLENOL Cold and Flu Hot Medication
TYLENOL Cold and Flu No Drowsiness Formula Hot Medication
Children’s Chewable CO-TYLENOLv
Miles Incorporated
ALKA-SELTZER PLUS Night-time Cold Medicine
ALKA-SELTZER PLUS Cold and Cough Medicine
ALKA-SELTZER PLUS Sinus Allergy Medicine
BUGS BUNNY Vitamin Products (ALL)
FLINTSTONES Plus Calcium Multivitamin Supplement
FLINTSTONES Complete Multivitamin Supplement
FLINTSTONES Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
A.H. Robbins Company, Inc
DIMETAPP Cold and Allergy Chewable Tablets
Bristol-Myers Squibb Company
CEFZIL
Mead Johnson Nutritionals:
TEMPRA 3 Chewable Tablets, 80mg acetaminophen tablet (3.3mg phenylalinine/tab)
TEMPRA 3 Double Strength Chewable Tablets, 160mg acetominophen (6.6mg Phen/tab)

Glaxo Pharmaceuticals
Zantac Efferdose
Bio-Pharmaceutics
Children’s Chewable Acetiminophen
Pennex Products: (Most introduced in 1987)
American Stores: SKAGGS ALPHA BETA Children’s Pain Reliever
Consumer Value Stores: CVS Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Drug Guild Dist: DRUG GUILD children’s anti-pain Chewable Tablets
First Nat'l Supermarkets: FINAST Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Greenbax Enterprises: PRICE-WISE Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Hannaford Bros: SHOP'N SAVE Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
J.C.Penny: TREASURY Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Kinney Drugs: KINNEY"S Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
LaVerdiere's Super Drug: LV ACTION SOOTHSALL Children’s Non-Aspirin
Legend Pharmaceuticals: LEGEND Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin P.R.
Malone & Hyde: HYDE PARK Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Marsh Supermarkets: MARSH Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Osco Drug: OSCO Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Pay'n Save Stores: PAY'N SAVE Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Penned Products: GOOD HEALTH Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Peoples Drug Stores: PEOPLES Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Piggly Wiggly Corp: PIGGLY WIGGLY Children’s Chewable Non-Aspirin P.R.
Rite Aid Corp.: RITE AID Children’s Aceteminophen Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Scriver: SUPER TRU Children’s Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever (Acetaminophen)
Wegman's Food Markets: WEGMANS Children’s Chewable Acetaminophen
Whitehall Labs
Children’s Anacin-3 Chewable Tablets
Cenci Powder
NATURLAX Natural Fiber Laxative
LIFE LINE Natural Fiber Laxative
H & PC Products
SUGAR FREE METAMUCIL
L.Perrigo
Eckerd: ECKERD Sugar Free Natural Fiber Laxative
Fay's: FAY'S Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Laxative
Longs: LONGS Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Powder Laxative
Payless: PAYLESS Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Powder Laxative
Perrigo: Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Powder
Perry: PERRY Drug Stores Sugar Free Natural Veg.Powder Bulk Laxative
Raley's: RALEY'S Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Powder
Rite Aid: RITE AID Sugar Free Regular Flavor Nat.Veg.Bulk Powder
Squibb: SQUIBBCARE Sugar Free Natural Fiber Laxative
Thrifty: THRIFTY Sugar Free Natural Vegetable Laxative
Hall Laboratories
HEALTH BALANCE Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
ZOO CHEWS Animal-Shaped Chewable Multivitamin
Mediguard
MEDIGUARD Children's Multivitamin Supplement (Cherry, Orange and Grape)
Equate
EQUATE Chewable Vitamins Animal-Shaped (with Iron)
Meijer
MEIJER CIRCUS SHAPES (Complete with Calcium, Iron and Minerals)
MIEJER CIRCUS SHAPES (with Iron)
Perrigo
ANIMAL SHAPES Chewable Vitamins Plus Extra C
ANIMAL SHAPES Chewable Vitamins Complete
ANIMAL SHAPES Chewable Vitamins With Iron
Raley's
Children’s Chewable Vitamins With Iron
Lifeline Nutritional
Lucky Stores: Mediguard Children’s Multivitamin Supplement with Iron
P.Leiner
Carls Drug Co: CARLS DRUG Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Malone & Hyde: HYDES PARK Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Hills Dept Stores: HILLS Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Kent Co: DART Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Big B Discount Drugs: BIG B Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
LKS Products, Inc: MEDI-GUARD Children’s Chewable Multivitamins
Revco Drug Stores: REVCO Children’s Chewable Multivitamins
Longs Drug Stores: LONGS Children's Chewable Multivitamin
Gray Drug Fair, Inc: GRAY DRUG FAIR Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Pharmavite Corp
ECKARD DRUG: Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
LONGS DRUG Children’s Chewable Multivitamin
Prescription Drugs Containing Aspartame
GAVISCON COOL tablets
GAVISCON ADVANCE tablets
ZANTAC 75 DISSOLVE eff tabs
ZOTON FASTAB 15mg disp tabs
ZOTON FASTAB 30mg disp tabs
SALOFALK 500mg/sacht m/r grans
SALOFALK 1g/sachet m/r grans
FYBOGEL 3.5g plain s/f grans
FYBOGEL 3.5g orange s/f grans
FYBOGEL 3.5g lemon s/f grans
KLEAN-PREP powder
COLESTID ORANGE grans 5g sach
COLESTIPOL orange 5g/sach grans
MONTELUKAST 5mg chew tabs
SINGULAIR PAED 5mg chew tabs
SINGULAIR PAED 4mg chew tabs
RISPERDAL QUICKLET 1mg tabs
RISPERDAL QUICKLET 2mg tabs
RISPERDAL QUICKLET 0.5mg tabs
ZYPREXA VELOTAB 5mg disp tabs
ZYPREXA VELOTAB 10mg disp tabs
ZYPREXA VELOTAB 15mg disp tabs
ZISPIN SOLTAB 30mg disp tabs
ZISPIN SOLTAB 15mg disp tabs
ZISPIN SOLTAB 45mg disp tabs
STEMETIL EFF 5mg/sachet grans
ZOFRAN MELT 4mg wafer
ZOFRAN MELT 8mg wafer
CALPOL FAST MELTS 6+ 250mg tab
LEMSIP MAX DIRECT LEMON sach
LEMSIP MAX DIRECT BCURANT
TYLEX EFFERVESCENT sol.tabs
ZAMADOL MELT 50mg disp tabs
MIGRAMAX sachet powder
ZOMIG RAPIMELT 2.5mg disp tabs
ZOMIG RAPIMELT 5mg disp tabs
MAXALT MELT 10mg wafer
ZELAPAR 1.25mg tablets
NIQUITIN CQ 2mg original loz
NIQUITIN CQ 4mg original loz
NIQUITIN CQ 2mg mint lozenges
NIQUITIN CQ 4mg mint lozenges
AUGMENTIN 250/62 in 5mL susp
AUGMENTIN-DUO 400/57in5mL susp
AUGMENTIN 125/31 in 5mL susp
ORELOX 40mg/5mL suspension
ZYVOX 100mg/5mL susp grans
VIDEX 25mg tablets
VIDEX 200mg tablets
VIRACEPT 50mg/1g oral pdr 144g
PROTELOS 2g sachets
CELLCEPT 1g/5mL suspension
DIORALYTE RELIEF apricot pdr
DIORALYTE RELIEF blkcurrnt pdr
DIORALYTE RELIEF raspberry pdr
CALCICHEW 1.25g chew tabs
CALCICHEW FORTE 2.5g chew tabs
CALCICHEW D3 tablets
CALCICHEW D3 FORTE tablets
FELDENE MELT 20mg tablets
ANADIN EXTRA SOLUBLE TABS
LYPSYL SUN LIP MOIST 4.2G
LEMSIP MAX COLD/FLU SACH LEMON
CENTRUM KIDZ M/VIT TABS 6 x 30
HEALTH AID FIBER-AID TABS 100
MIGRAMAX sachets 20
MIGRAMAX sachets 6
NUROFEN MELT LEM TABS 200MG
QUESTRAN LIGHT sachets 50
CALCICHEW FORTE CH/TABS 1G 60
NUROFEN RECOVERY TABS 12
Boots Max Str Cold & Flu Blc
Boots Max Str Cold & Flu Lem
Boots S/F Antisep Thr Drops Bl
AUGMENTIN-DUO SF400/57 70ML
ALKA RAPID crystals sachets 10
DIOCALM COMP CAPS/SACH 6/6
SALOFALK granules 500mg 100
SALOFALK granules 1000mg 50
So if these are drugs to cure certain ailments why are they putting a sweetner in them?

Remember the 90% base of TAMIFLU is aniseed… The worlds largest owner of these plantations is in fact Roche Labs. So they love filling these drugs full of low cost materials. Why even add these bases to the drugs?

The simple conclusion is that they are not telling us the implications of taking excess amounts of ASPARTAME but they keep wanting us to take it for no specific reason. They are changing the worlds populous DNA for social conditioning and control. I think every person on this planet has at one point taken on excess amounts of Aspartame without even knowing… And if you had millions of tons of a man made chemical what would you spray in the sky? What is the main reason anyone would spray chemicals in the sky at this vast worldwide operation?

1) The side effects of Aspartame consumption are literally countless… So if you had millions of people going to the doctors for various ailments… How many drugs you going to sell? MORE THAN EVER.
2) HARP Technology… Very feasible this day and age but no real threat to mankind… So they could tell us about it realistically.
3) Poisoning/Depopulation… Well Aspartame will take care of that too.
4) Maintaining natural growth for the planet or water purification… Well in that case if this is what they where doing as a going concern they would probably make this public for the Brownie point don’t you think?

So realistically, the only thing they would benefit from spraying in the sky onto the world would be Aspartame. Its cheap, in abundance and could potentially generate a ripple effect for the sales of drugs & harm people and more importantly change DNA structures.
NAME ANOTHER CHEMICAL THAT THEY PRODUCE THAT WOULD DO THE ABOVE… I CANT.

We are fucked

In a way yes... However look at the big picture here... They do this consecutively every few years... We haven't had an epidemic in about three years... Notice how many weird virus outbreaks have been about lately and come to realize how many people have been falling sick in the major city's since the Olympics started...

Get ready for another epidemic and government propaganda to take a new vaccine!

Cheers master. Some good info there, especially re pharmaceuticals.

No problem.
Please let me know if there are any other subjects, industry's, or products you require some deep insight into.

Master11 wrote:
Great post... cheers... and I've been off galavanting so missed your arrival, therefore welcome to the forum

Master11 wrote:
G'day Master11.

From memory, it was the change of the head of the FDA when Reagan became president that allowed the reapplication for aspartame and its subsequent approval. As you stated, originally it wasn't approved because it is toxic ... in other words, it's a fucking poison. All involved in putting this shit into the food chain, in my opinion, deserve a lead ball to be placed behind their ear ... from a high powered rifle.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
That's also how I understood that it came to be approved...
The reception of lead traveling at velocity to the frontal lobe is too kind for these people - maybe a better solution would be a diet based on GMO crops sprinkled with generous quantities of NutraSweet and washed down with Die (t) Coke, in a secluded desert compound with only a fluoridated water supply under a chemtrail hot spot. Their accommodation could be in the shack which holds the control gear and HV transformers for the microwave transmission masts surrounding the compound. The resulting study could be used for research purposes, which maybe provide useful information for the rest of us. If all their safety claims are substantiated they will emerge unscathed and well nourished. If they are confident that their claims are true then there should be no objections on their part.

Yes, it was all part of the Bush administration. They are the ones who pushed it forward. With another bull crap story that the scientist got some on his hand and though it was his lunch time snack that produced the sweet taste... I guess that is how these mega corps produce all the scientific investigations to allow things for human consumption...

Same goes for caffeine... Another poison that was introduced to the new generation and consumed in massive amounts worldwide... How the hell did they manage to get a poison in nearly every beverage and energy supplement in the world... People are lead to believe that tea gives you a caffeine buzz... Yeah that is only because the plant itself contains caffeine as a natural pesticide!

I truly believe that other than bromide and barium, they have at some point sprayed the earth with aspartame, and I also believe they have also sprayed the majority of cannabis with the same stuff... Hence the dreaded three years of coated cannabis worldwide... Even in Amsterdam...

I cut sugar (other than the ones naturally occurring in fresh fruit), aspartame, caffeine and processed foods out of my diet completely a few months ago, and my type 2 diabetes does seem to be reversing.

Even mainstream scientists recognise that "diet" products containing aspartame actually increase your appetite and ultimately make you fat: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110627183944.htm

dreamweaver wrote:
That's great news DW!

Where's the chuffin' thread?

dreamweaver wrote:
G'day Dreamweaver.

Good for you mate.

In the documentary below, Cousins and Wolfe are twats, though there is some good info on reversing diabetes ...

Notice how this chemical was introduced in the late 90's and was a sure fire hit with the older generation (60+) ? They where literally using these things like tic tacs.... Notice how Smints then suddenly became huge (mega marketed, mass produced, high sales) which contains predominantly aspartame as a base ingredient aslo... They also used the same packaging as Splenda etc, however it was mostly marketed to the young kids.

Chupa Chups S.A where the creators and marketers of this candy and soon after Perfetti Van Melle's acquisition of Chupa Chups they became the the company's competitor for Mentos... A huge worldwide candy brand.

This move then earmarked the start of the chewing gum movement where celebs where endorsing them, and they where making billions from the worldwide sales... The majority of which contained aspartame for no real reason! Another byproduct of this boom was 10 years later when the Worldwide councils had to splash out for footpath cleaning, again using steam (inexpensive) and chemicals (profits) to continue the circle of life in terms of commerce and utilizing money from their products long term. Sounds crazy, but quite true!

I wonder if they have a tasteless form of Aspartame...? Think about it!