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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 16:38 #1

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www.herald.ie/news/patients-lost-on-trol...l-aande-3356968.html

Imagine you've just had a heart attack and you're brought into A&E with all the noise going on and then you're left on a trolly for hours on end in the corridor...
Thats if you make it to the hospital in time ofc...
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 16:51 #2

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andyh wrote:
www.herald.ie/news/patients-lost-on-trol...l-aande-3356968.html

Imagine you've just had a heart attack and you're brought into A&E with all the noise going on and then you're left on a trolly for hours on end in the corridor...
Thats if you make it to the hospital in time ofc...

It's going to get worse I believe, if a person thinks their special they get a hard reality check going through most emergency rooms , I dread a serious medical situation and being thrown into the system as a patient in serious need.

But in defense of any system I think most attempt to care and do their best, it just the nature of the beast, and in all fairness your location has much to do with individual care and your feeling of being important or not.
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 17:09 #3

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I think its got more to do with hospitals that are understaffed tbh lol...
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 17:24 #4

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andyh wrote:
I think its got more to do with hospitals that are understaffed tbh lol...

True and throw lazy into the equation also
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 17:40 #5

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Rick wrote:
andyh wrote:
I think its got more to do with hospitals that are understaffed tbh lol...

True and throw lazy into the equation also

I don't think they're lazy, they were working very hard when I last visited the place.
But I recall them mentioning having trouble admitting patients into wards because certain admin staff didn't work at night...lol.
So you can imagine them leaving patients on trolleys in full public view (no matter what their specific condition is and some can be embarrassing).

It almost always boils down to money.
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 17:45 #6

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I have to say that my experience of NHS hospitals are that everyone works incredibly hard in pressurised circumstances, and all the doctors look completely knackered all the time. It always amuses me that you get these execrable dramas on TV like Holby City where everyone's glamorous and having affairs right, left and centre. When I've been in hospital, all of the doctors and consultants had bags under their eyes and looked about halfway to death, and the nurses barely had a moment to themselves.

All of which, of course, is a reason to fund the NHS properly from the hundreds of billions collected in tax, not to privatise it.
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 17:52 #7

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I have to say that my experience of NHS hospitals are that everyone works incredibly hard in pressurised circumstances, and all the doctors look completely knackered all the time. It always amuses me that you get these execrable dramas on TV like Holby City where everyone's glamorous and having affairs right, left and centre. When I've been in hospital, all of the doctors and consultants had bags under their eyes and looked about halfway to death, and the nurses barely had a moment to themselves.

All of which, of course, is a reason to fund the NHS properly from the hundreds of billions collected in tax, not to privatise it.

Its a monster which is managed very poorly tbh.
A lot of outsourced crap, a lot of useless crap, money spent on crap the doctors and nurses don't want and money not spent on what they do want.
Again that boils down to upper management being full of assholes who have no nursing experience whatsoever and are just political beasts.

There's no doubt spare resources that can be better used at different hospitals and put to better use in other ones and all sorts of stuff like that.
It boils down to decent systems software which again ofc has been outsourced to the boys who made a ballsup of it but still got paid billions, remember that fiasco?


Revenue alone could save untold amounts of money and having to fill in shitloads of forms if they just joined the all the departments computers together :)

The bigger systems get the greater the chaos and its very difficult to avoid tbh.
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 18:19 #8

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Yes, and of course all of the layers and layers of management are more interested in justifying their own existence than actually making the system work.
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Irish deathcare 18 Jan 2013 18:30 #9

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At its worst, it is like it is very much by design, imo. Nuff said.
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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