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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 10:11 #161

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yeah dothamy but you aso have to look to the Royal family and the vatican to see where all the money actually is .
Doesn't the queen own more land than anyone else on the planet or something?

“Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth.”

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made – Norway, Belgium, Denmark etc.

The value of her land holding. £17,600,000,000,000 (approx).

This makes her the richest individual on earth. However, there is no way easily to value her real estate. There is no current market in the land of entire countries. At a rough estimate of $5,000 an acre, and based on the sale of Alaska to the USA by the Tsar, and of Louisiana to the USA by France, the Queen’s land holding is worth a notional $33,000,000,000,000 (Thirty three trillion dollars or about £17,600,000,000,000). Her holding is based on the laws of the countries she owns and her land title is valid in all the countries she owns. Her main holdings are Canada, the 2nd largest country on earth, with 2,467 million acres, Australia, the 7th largest country on earth with 1,900 million acres, the Papua New Guinea with114 million acres, New Zealand with 66 million acres and the UK with 60 million acres.

She is the world’s largest landowner by a significant margin. The next largest landowner is the Russian state, with an overall ownership of 4,219 million acres, and a direct ownership comparable with the Queen’s land holding of 2,447 million acres. The 3rd largest landowner is the Chinese state, which claims all of Chinese land, about 2,365 million acres. The 4th largest landowner on earth is the Federal Government of the United States, which owns about one third of the land of the USA, 760 million acres. The fifth largest landowner on earth is the King of Saudi Arabia with 553 million acres

Largest five personal landowners on Earh
Queen Elizabeth II ................. 6,600 million acres
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia .... 553 million acres
King Bhumibol of Thailand ........ 126 million acres
King Mohammed IV of Morocco ... 113 million acres
Sultan Quaboos of Oman .......... 76 million acres

www.whoownstheworld.com/about-the-book/l...ner/?ref=patrick.net
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 11:43 #162

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Have you any idea whats going on in asia? Who the families are there?
Not sure about Banking Families in China, but their government doesn't seem to be void of Jewish Communists
Special Report: The Secret Role of Jews in China
In days past, Jews were more careful to hide themselves in the political arena, preferring to work behind the scenes. But today, Jewish politicians increasingly fill government posts through the power of Jewish supremacist networking, the power of media control, and the power of money which can control the outcome of elections by image-crafting.

EpMao1944

Israel Epstein,second from right in front, standing in front of Mao. He later became the minister of appropriations, an extremely powerful position in a practically cashless era. To the right of him is another Jew, also under cover as a journalist

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Epstein's cover was journalism. His parents were Russian Jews who were imprisoned in Siberia for espionage.


HuEp

This is Israel Epstein chatting with Chairman Hu, just before his death.

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Mao in a high-level meeting with several Jews [Frank Coe, Israel Epstein, Elsie Fairfax-Cholmely, and Solomon Adler]

Rittenberg And Mao

Mao with Sidney Rittenberg.Wikipedia claims he "observed" the upper levels of Chinese leadership:

Sidney Rittenberg(August 14, 1921; Chinese name: Lǐ Dūnbái 李敦白) is an Americaninterpreter and scholar who lived in China from1944 to 1979. He worked closely with People's Republic of China (PRC)founder Mao Zedong, military leader Zhu De,statesman Zhou Enlai, and other leaders of the Communist party during the war, and was with these central Communist leaders at Yan'an.Hewitnessedfirst-handmuchofwhatoccurredatupperlevels of the CCP and knew many of its leaders personally. He was the first Americancitizen to join the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

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SidneyRittenberg WPP group and Martin Sorrell
Rittenberg's connections and experience have enabled him to run a successful consultancy business representing some of the world’s biggest brands, such as Intel, Levi Strauss, Microsoft, Hughes Aircraft and Teledesic.

1. Foreign nationals are not allowed to be naturalized as Chinese citizens. How did these Jews magically do it?
2. Rittenberg's "consultancy business" is in fact one of the largest, or largest, advertising agencies in the world. Was he the actual Chinese minister of propaganda?
A note about Mao: He was picked up to play puppet leader with resourced funneled through Yale University (whose symbol has Hebrew on it), in a Skull and Bones type scheme. The location was Yali Highschool in Changsha, Hunan Province -a branch of Yale. Mao was a disturbed young man - a completely controllable, blackmail-able puppet for their purposes.


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"Rewi Alley," the man who organized communes in China before Chinese even knew they were to be ruled by Jewish communists (in the 1920's, well before 1949)


Rewi

A closer look at Rewi Alley

Rewizhouenlai

Rewi schmoozing with the supposedly ultra-powerful Zhou Enlai

Robert Lawrence Kuhn 01

Robert Lawrence Kuhn [1],another Jewish investment banker "consultant" to the CCP

Robert Lawrence Kuhn 02

Robert Lawrence Kuhn seen talking about who the new Chinese president will be, while Chinese have no clue about it

Israel Epstein Sidney Shapiro Chen Bidi

Sidney Shapiro, Israel Epstein and Chen Bidi getting a birthday party thrown by the politburo

From a Chinese articleon the Jewish birthday party:
Three CPPCC [politburo]members with foreign origins celebrated their 90th birthday together at Jingfeng Hotel, one of the hotels in Beijing appointed for the NPC and CPPCC sessions, on March 8. Israel Epstein, Sidney Shapiro (Sha Boli)and Chen Bidi were born in Poland, the United States and Canada respectively, and they obtained Chinese nationality in 1957 and 1963.As experts who have long been working in the field of foreign publicity, they witnessed China's revolution and socialist modernization drive.

Israel Epstein Bidi 02

After retirement, they didn't stay idle but continued to participate actively in the discussion and management of state affairs.Many NPC deputies and CPPCC members attending the ongoing annual sessions went to their birthday party to express their best wishes.
Israel Epstein Chen Bidi



Shapiro Politburo Member

Sidney Shapiro, politburo member (!). Chinese are allowed to call them foreigners (laowai), but they dare not mention that all of them are Jews
Virginius Frank Coe

Virginius Frank Coe,Jewish operative in China. From wikipedia: Blacklisted...Coe sought work abroad, eventually finding...the People's Republic of China, where he joined a circle of expatriates working with the government. In 1962, he was joined by SolomonAdler in the circle. Coe participated in Mao's Great Leap Forward, a plan for the rapid industrialization and modernization of China. His works include articles justifying the Rectification campaign.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 13:25 #163

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I meant Singapore, Hong Kong, Seoul etc.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 14:54 #164

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andyh wrote:
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I don't know about the rest of the families. I say if they are the most powerful. And if not, they are at least in the top 2 0r 3. And their experience and expertise guarantees that they remain very useful to the cabal no matter what.

There are more than 8 banking families LOL. :p
Have you any idea whats going on in asia? Who the families are there?

Too much of this narrow conspiracy crap and not enough hard evidence mate.
Admit it, it just aint there is it?
I've seen threads go on and on and on at DIF talking about the rothschilds and like I say, not 1 hard bit of evidence about financial wealth.

You're either deliberately refusing to accept any info, or you really can't see the forest for the trees. There is a lot of good evidence in this thread; if it doesn't fit your parameters of what good evidence is, then that's pretty much the end of the discussion as far as you go. The Rothschild family sits at or near the top , the very top, of the banking cabal. World wide.
There are a ton of subsidiaries and other families below them, but we're talking about the Rothschilds specifically, and there is a lot more than "narrow conspiracy crap" to support the assertation that they are money masters. You should learn how usury truly works, and who truly benefits from controlling the massive wealth of others. Therein is where their power lies.

Different sources have Evelyn de Rothschild's worth at 20 billion per year
www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-busine...othschild-net-worth/

Or 20 billion in total; some say his net worth disclosure when being a part of purchasing Lehman Brothers was 1.5 trillion
www.topix.com/forum/state/ny/TU4P5CKP358OFS7NV

The Rothschild Group and 24 jewish billionaires purchased Lehman Brothers for $10 billion.
Jewish Investment Partners

Sir Evelyn De Rothschild
Net Worth:$1.5 Trillion
Source: Banking

Sheldon Adelson
Net Worth:$26.0 billion
Source: Casinos, Hotels

Lawrence Ellison
Net Worth:$25.0 billion
Source: Oracle......

Some say they control over 500 trillion in wealth; this artcle with vids is pretty interesting; I'm guessing you won't be impressed...

truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/rothschilds-exposed-500-tril/
Rothschild’$ Exposed: $500 Trillion Worth Includes: Bank of England, Reuters News, Associated Press, ABC,CBS, NBC, CNBC, CNN, Royal Dutch SHELL, Israel, Federal Reserve, US/UK Governments, CIA, NATO,

So you see, from just a few different sources we get 20 billion, 1.5 trillion, and a figure that shows the assets under their control total around half a quadrillion dollars..... to be fair andy, you really can't dispute or disprove any of this, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're asking for proof, and I assume you mean that you want to see it in a publication like Forbes magazine, or the Daily Mail before you'll believe it? Please note; the Rothschilds aren't going to disclose any truth to you or I at any time in the near future, we have no choice but to look at different sources for this info and try to draw our own conclusions. David Icke isn't the only one talking about the extent of their power and influence. He may be the only one saying that they are shape shifting reptilians though. If you get a chance, watch the House of Rothschild, a campy little piece of propaganda in the guise of a movie that was released in the 1930's. Here's the whole film; they're the good guys wo come out on top and control everything.;)



Of course their paw prints are all over Hollywood and the entertainment business too.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 15:06 #165

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so basically it's all down to the JEWS and we should all just pile in and stop them

People blaming the jews are daft ...........no better than hitler


The wealth of nations is spread over numerous countries ........if people think 'it's the rothschildds' fair enough but intelligience sees through it


yes media has a high proportion of jews so what
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 15:47 #166

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dawnbreak wrote:
........... so what
“All critics of Jews should not be tagged as anti-Semites. We are not a
nation of Christs,Spinozas, and Einsteins; that the Nazis are brutes
does not make us angels … Criticism is not the same as hatred, and critics
are not our enemies. The greatest friends of a people are not those
who praise but those who honestly find fault. A people without criticism
is either a dictatorship or a community so deeply embedded in smug
self-satisfaction as to be on the road to decadence.”

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, Jewish author [written before World War II, in Goldstein, D., p. 119]
“The far-reaching consequences of the [Jewish] martyr complex go
beyond any effect of the individual Jew … and do not leave unmarked
even the most sympathetically inclined Gentiles. Since the Jew is hypersensitive
on the subject of his Judaism, Gentiles fear to offer constructive
criticism lest they be accused of prejudices. Thus the Jew is denied the
benefit of honest evaluation of the very real differences and prejudices
existing … I believe we Jews will never be normal individuals so long as
we foster our martyr complex, so long as we remain evasive of self-appraisal
and self-improvement, and so long as it is easier to blame the
other fellow for our own faults.”

Maurice M. Feurlich, Jewish author, in “Children of the Martyr Race,” The Forum , NYC, September 1937; cited in Goldstein, D., p. 116
“By accusing western democracies of anti-Semitism, the Jews put
them on the defensive. As long as guilt feelings can be profitably mined,
advantages can be gained. But the lode is not likely to last forever.”

Moshe Leshem, former Israeli diplomat, p. 253-254]
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of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy; or perhaps both.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 16:17 #167

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Roth­schild’$ Exposed: $500 Tril­lion Worth Includes: Bank of Eng­land,

The BoE was 'nationalised' in 1946 so I fail to see how that's possible. The bank belongs solely to the treasury of the government.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 16:23 #168

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ronisron wrote:
andyh wrote:
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I don't know about the rest of the families. I say if they are the most powerful. And if not, they are at least in the top 2 0r 3. And their experience and expertise guarantees that they remain very useful to the cabal no matter what.

There are more than 8 banking families LOL. :p
Have you any idea whats going on in asia? Who the families are there?

Too much of this narrow conspiracy crap and not enough hard evidence mate.
Admit it, it just aint there is it?
I've seen threads go on and on and on at DIF talking about the rothschilds and like I say, not 1 hard bit of evidence about financial wealth.

You're either deliberately refusing to accept any info, or you really can't see the forest for the trees. There is a lot of good evidence in this thread; if it doesn't fit your parameters of what good evidence is, then that's pretty much the end of the discussion as far as you go. The Rothschild family sits at or near the top , the very top, of the banking cabal. World wide.
There are a ton of subsidiaries and other families below them, but we're talking about the Rothschilds specifically, and there is a lot more than "narrow conspiracy crap" to support the assertation that they are money masters. You should learn how usury truly works, and who truly benefits from controlling the massive wealth of others. Therein is where their power lies.

Different sources have Evelyn de Rothschild's worth at 20 billion per year
www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-busine...othschild-net-worth/

Or 20 billion in total; some say his net worth disclosure when being a part of purchasing Lehman Brothers was 1.5 trillion
www.topix.com/forum/state/ny/TU4P5CKP358OFS7NV

The Rothschild Group and 24 jewish billionaires purchased Lehman Brothers for $10 billion.
Jewish Investment Partners

Sir Evelyn De Rothschild
Net Worth:$1.5 Trillion
Source: Banking

Sheldon Adelson
Net Worth:$26.0 billion
Source: Casinos, Hotels

Lawrence Ellison
Net Worth:$25.0 billion
Source: Oracle......

Some say they control over 500 trillion in wealth; this artcle with vids is pretty interesting; I'm guessing you won't be impressed...

truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/rothschilds-exposed-500-tril/
Rothschild’$ Exposed: $500 Trillion Worth Includes: Bank of England, Reuters News, Associated Press, ABC,CBS, NBC, CNBC, CNN, Royal Dutch SHELL, Israel, Federal Reserve, US/UK Governments, CIA, NATO,

So you see, from just a few different sources we get 20 billion, 1.5 trillion, and a figure that shows the assets under their control total around half a quadrillion dollars..... to be fair andy, you really can't dispute or disprove any of this, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're asking for proof, and I assume you mean that you want to see it in a publication like Forbes magazine, or the Daily Mail before you'll believe it? Please note; the Rothschilds aren't going to disclose any truth to you or I at any time in the near future, we have no choice but to look at different sources for this info and try to draw our own conclusions. David Icke isn't the only one talking about the extent of their power and influence. He may be the only one saying that they are shape shifting reptilians though. If you get a chance, watch the House of Rothschild, a campy little piece of propaganda in the guise of a movie that was released in the 1930's. Here's the whole film; they're the good guys wo come out on top and control everything.;)



Of course their paw prints are all over Hollywood and the entertainment business too.

Unfortunately yet more conspiracy crap with no solid evidence Ron.
There is no evidence in this thread that shows they are of this 'quadrillions' of wealth. Is there even 'quadrillions' of wealth on the planet?
Come on ffs....
A video does not comprise hard evidence nor does links to icke/pplanet/rense etc.

I need to see corporations he owns controlling shareholding interests in and pre-tax profits on their own websites.
Until you can...you fail basically.
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Roth­schild’$ Exposed: $500 Tril­lion Worth Includes: Bank of Eng­land,

The BoE was 'nationalised' in 1946 so I fail to see how that's possible. The bank belongs solely to the treasury of the government.

Correct...but not in the case of the BoE nominees.
I've yet to see a decent explanation about the nominees either except for yet more 'theory' and little in the way of hard facts.
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andyh wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
Roth­schild’$ Exposed: $500 Tril­lion Worth Includes: Bank of Eng­land,

The BoE was 'nationalised' in 1946 so I fail to see how that's possible. The bank belongs solely to the treasury of the government.

Correct...but not in the case of the BoE nominees.
I've yet to see a decent explanation about the nominees either except for yet more 'theory' and little in the way of hard facts.

Yep... they circumvent convention which obviously gives rise to speculation. Fact is nobody can say for sure what goes on there except them, and that's not very likely.
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the Rotschilds do not have the controlling interest in th bank of england .................the queen on the other hand :uk:
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the Rotschilds do not have the controlling interest in th bank of england .................the queen on the other hand :uk:

They don't need it anyway... the majority of money that comes into existence comes from private banks.
I suspect you're right about queenie btw. She got her fingers in all sorts that ol' crone.
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bear in mind when the movie 'The house of Rothschild' was made ......i think it was 1934?
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Have you any idea whats going on in asia? Who the families are there?
Not sure about Banking Families in China, but their government doesn't seem to be void of Jewish Communists

Jewish communist :hahano:


The Bolshevik Revolution



A certain segment within the patriot movement and within the “alternative media” loves to tell us that Trotsky and many of the top Soviet Communist Party Politburo members were Jews – and then to tell us their Jewish names. What they seldom mention is that all but one of the top Jews in the powerful Politburo were executed. Trotsky himself was hunted down in Mexico and murdered there. As Dr. Stanley Monteith indicated in an earlier quote: “That’s a poor way to reward Jews if they were the force behind the Bolshevik Revolution.” Indeed!



Some Jews were also appointed as camp commandants within the Soviet Gulag system. Again we seem to find a pattern: put some Jews in positions as mid-level or even upper-level managers, and then folks will think that the whole operation (or, conspiracy) is “Jewish”.



However, if “the Jews” funded and ran the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, then why in blazes would they kill all but one of the Jews in the Soviet Politburo?

The Russians had many pogrom, Odessa pogroms, Warsaw pogrom (1881), Kishinev pogrom (1903), Kiev Pogrom (1905) and the Białystok pogrom (1906). Other anti-Jewish events described as pogroms include the Lwów pogrom (1918), and Kiev Pogroms (1919).

Periodically it can be seen that Jews were killed for just having a religion.

What jew hater's like to make out is that everything wrong in the world is to be blamed on jews that way it makes them feel better because 'they' have found the culprit. Conspiracy theorist want you to see conspiracy as a spy novel in the end your given an answer and everything feels better.



There are no jewish banks in China but that doesn't matter cause if there is someone there that has jewish heritage then they MUST be working for a jewish conspiracy, ain't that right. So all the people who are Jews are part of the NWO it's got to be in the simplistic minds of jew hater's.
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Re: jews do control the media 13 Jul 2012 23:26 #175

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Bol­she­vic­tim doesn't mention that Sidney Rittenberg was actually imprisoned by the Chinese for a total of sixteen years ffs.

China's Prisoner for 16 Years, Sidney Rittenberg Remains Its True Friend and Believer.


Qin Cheng No. 1 near Peking is a special compound in which China's highest-ranking political prisoners are housed. Sidney Rittenberg remembers it in painstaking detail, as well he might after spending nearly 10 years there in solitary confinement. His cell measured exactly seven paces by three and a half paces; his bed was a wooden door propped on sawhorses. His meals were delivered through a hinged panel in the door. For the first four years he received only three cups of drinking water a day.

Rittenberg's ordeal began on the night of Feb. 21, 1968. Chinese army security personnel came to his home in Peking and took him away. He was accused of being an American spy, then held without trial. "The first two years were really quite harsh," he says placidly. "It was a sort of reign of terror, and for many prisoners there was a lot of physical violence, though I experienced very little. I found out later that some prisoners were classified as having big stories to tell, and they were to be kept in good enough shape to tell them. I was one of those." But even Rittenberg was harassed constantly. At first, for example, prison rules required inmates to sleep with their heads turned toward a peephole in the cell door, so guards could keep watch on them easily. "By nature I'm a fidgety person," says Rittenberg (who was nicknamed "Worm" by a teacher in grammar school). "If I turned over, the guards would bang on the door and curse."

During his first years in prison the American was questioned morning, afternoon and night. When official interest in him flagged, he would see no one—not even his jailers—for as much as a month at a time. He was forbidden to send or receive letters, and his Chinese wife and four children were told little of his fate. Then on the morning of Nov. 18, 1977, he was given a razor and told to shave off his beard. Soon his wife appeared with a new Western suit, a pair of shoes, a silk shirt and a tie. As suddenly as it had begun, his imprisonment was over.

Remarkable though it was, Rittenberg's trial by isolation was but one grim chapter in a career without parallel. He went to China as an idealistic young U.S. Army private in 1945 and stayed on to become the leading English-language translator in the People's Republic. He met Mao Tse-tung several times and Chou En-lai was his friend. Twice, however, Rittenberg was caught up in political disputes not of his making, and he spent a total of 16 years under arrest. Now, at 57, he is visiting America for the first time since 1945. Despite his imprisonment, he speaks of life in China without a trace of rancor or regret and will return to Peking early this summer. After 34 years, it is home.

Born to one of the leading families of Charleston, S.C. (a grandfather served in the state legislature; his father was city council president), young Sidney grew up steeped in the philosophy of the New Deal. Acutely conscious of the plight of the poor, classmates remember that he spent half his lunch money every day in grammar school to feed orphans in his class. Later, as a teenager, he witnessed an incident that haunted him for years afterward. Walking home from a date, he saw a drunken white man attack a black on the street. Innocently, Rittenberg ran to a police cruiser. "I waited there, supremely confident," he says, "but when the police came out of the alley they were beating the black man until he could hardly walk. I was dumbfounded." His father had the black released, but Rittenberg couldn't stop thinking about what he had seen. "I asked my aunt about it," he remembers. "I told her, 'It's so unjust!' She said, 'There isn't any justice. You get what you pay for.' "

At military school, Rittenberg was a superior student but a rebellious cadet. Moving on to the University of North Carolina, he became a voracious reader and gave free reign to his social activist's instincts. He joined the left-wing American Student Union, taught cotton mill workers off-campus and eventually became a union organizer. He graduated from Chapel Hill in 1940 and was married the following year. Though he tried to join the Army the day after Pearl Harbor, he was rejected because of poor eyesight. Then in 1942 he was drafted and sent to Stanford, where he studied Chinese. "I loved it," he says. "I drank it in. I couldn't get enough." In 1945 he was flown into Kunming, where he was assigned to the Judge Advocate General's office.

From the beginning, China fascinated Rittenberg. World War II was over, and the Nationalists and Communists were girding for their own showdown. Traveling through the countryside, investigating Chinese damage claims against U.S. troops, Rittenberg made important contacts and formed his own sympathies. He was appalled by the corruption of Chiang Kai-shek's regime and saw in the Communist armies an inspiring example of a working democracy. "For me," he says, "seeing an army where you could criticize officers was fantastic."

Discharged from the service in 1946, Rittenberg stayed on in China to work with the U.N. relief agency. His wife had divorced him, and he wanted to see how China's political struggle would be resolved—perhaps even write a book about it. One evening, over dinner with a Communist commander, Rittenberg was asked if he would be willing to work for the new Communist radio system. "They were starting an English-language broadcast beamed at the U.S.," he explains. "They had no one who wrote fluent English, and I was very happy to do it. That put me in the New China News Agency."

Rittenberg's first arrest came three years later as a result of his association with Anna Louise Strong, a renowned leftist American writer whose loyalty to Mao made her suspect in the Soviet Union. When Moscow denounced her as a "spy queen" in 1949, it branded Rittenberg her agent. At the time, Peking followed Moscow in lockstep, and Rittenberg was placed in detention. The arrangement was almost convivial. For the next six years he went for walks, did some gardening, even played cards with his amiable guards. He was allowed to read anything he wanted, though all the books were in Chinese. Stoical as always, Rittenberg seized the opportunity to become fluent in the language.

Finally, in 1955, the Soviets exonerated Anna Louise Strong. "A month or two later I was released—just like that," Rittenberg says, snapping his fingers. Profuse apologies followed, and eventually both Premier Chou and Chairman Mao extended their personal regrets. Comparing the two men, Rittenberg describes Chou as "an extremely democratic man, unaffected and natural. He didn't think of himself as a superior person with superior rights." Mao was more reserved. "I saw him stoop down on the ground to talk to peasants, but he had to make a thing of it," Rittenberg says. "He wasn't as approachable as Chou. He was the theorist who spoke slowly and liked to think between sentences."

Rittenberg briefly considered returning to the U.S., but was worried by what he had heard of McCarthyism and was eager to learn more about the People's Republic. He was given a translator's job at Radio Peking, where he met a 23-year-old secretary named Wang Yulin. With ill-advised directness, he wrote her a love letter. "Dear Comrade," she wrote back, "I am far too young to get married, and I hope you will never bother me again with this kind of talk." Happily for Rittenberg, she added a P.S.: "Since I've already agreed to go with you to Sun Yatsen Park tonight, I will keep my promise." They were married six months later and became the parents of three daughters (now 22, 20 and 19, and all studying science or medicine) and a son (13 and in high school).

As a foreigner, Rittenberg was careful to avoid any job where he would have to give orders to Chinese workers. Nonetheless, in 1967 he found himself caught up in the Cultural Revolution. In the ensuing anarchy, he was denounced by Mao's wife, the ambitious Jiang Qing (Chiang Ching). "In films she had been a failure," says Rittenberg, "but as a demagogue she was terrific. She was making a grab for power and in the process abandoned all scruples. She became a degenerate." He was put under house arrest and finally imprisoned.

"It was just so damned crooked and wrong and absurd," Rittenberg says today, in a rare burst of passion. "One had to muster all his resources to see it through somehow." Instead of surrendering to despair, he responded as if to a challenge. "When that door clanged behind me, I set my jaw. They were saying that Americans were spies or fair-weather friends. Well, here was one American who was going to show them it wasn't so." For once, though, Rittenberg's optimism began to waver. "I was sure my case eventually would be cleared up," he says. "I was just not sure I was going to be around to see it."

Yulin also lost her job and, for a time, was sent to a labor camp in Henan Province, taking only her small son with her. The Rittenbergs' daughters, left in the care of their grandmother, were ostracized until Yulin returned in 1972 and wrote a letter of protest to Chou. The premier earlier had approved Rittenberg's request for a daily newspaper in his cell. "I tried to squeeze every drop of information out of it," Rittenberg recalls. "It was a positive thing to apply myself to." He learned something about Vietnam through extensive Chinese coverage of the antiwar movement in the U.S. But the term "Watergate" puzzled him. He assumed it was a scandal involving a hydroelectric project.

To his critics, Rittenberg's faith in the People's Republic comes suspiciously close to unreasoning zealotry. Some describe him as a figure of mystery, others as the most powerful outsider in China. His current quarters, an eight-room suite in Peking's Friendship Hotel, and his access to a motor pool car are regarded as the perquisites of a man of great influence.

Rittenberg, however, says that while he and Yulin would prefer simpler accommodations, few are available for foreigners. He denies he was ever Radio Peking's master propagandist, as journalists have reported. "I have never been in a decision-making role about what goes out on the air," he says. "I can try to persuade, but whether my editor accepts or not is his prerogative." He points out that during the Korean war and the fighting in Vietnam, when anti-U.S. broadcasts were at their most virulent, he was a prisoner whose voice had been silenced.

Despite his commitment to China, Rittenberg stubbornly holds on to his U.S. citizenship, vowing to remain as American as possible. Back in the U.S. after so many years, he has found a different country—one he believes has changed for the better. "There's been great progress in breaking down provincialism and isolation," he explains. "My sister spoke of her black friends with pride—this was an amazing thing to me." He realizes, however, that U.S. racial problems are far from being solved, and he admits to being startled by the growth of crime and drugs and the disintegration of the family. "So many people here seem to feel aimless about their lives, often in the midst of considerable comfort," he observes. "In China when you see that, it's a dislocation from the norm."

Though he concedes that China, too, has been shaken by social upheavals, he regards them as bizarre aberrations. With the downfall of Jiang Qing and the Gang of Four, he believes, the People's Republic will vindicate the passionate faith he has placed in it. He is not, obviously, a man in whom belief dies easily. "I saw my mother in New York and she told me she thought I was dead," says Rittenberg. "There were times when I thought so too."

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The man was locked up by a country that he thought had all the answers to the worlds problems via a political system for sixteen years and get slated on here-give him a break :yerright:
Didn't Israel Epstein also get locked up in china but he still had faith in china's political system.
naivety attracts evil and evil attracts naivety
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Eeeeeeh!

I don't want to use it but the urge is overwhelming after skimming this thread.........

B3a2e6f0fb4cbc31005572a91b1ab62d1309785145 Full


I could create a thread with the following title:

Muslims do control all kebab shops. The big problem with that is that there are hundreds of millions of Muslims that have and probably never will go anywhere near a kebab shop. The same could be said for Turkish people in general. Yes, not all Turks are Muslims but I'm sure you get my point.

Rothschilds. Now I have already mentioned this on another thread. I am firmly swinging my penis beam on this one as I've had enough. If anyone here would like to accompany me to a mansion in south Ukraine to meet my Russian buddy, who is very closely connected to the old KGB and the FBS, you are more than welcome. His brother is a senior FSB official and has seen documents that estimate Rothschild wealth at £16 Trillion. The other figure that started getting banded about on youtube videos a while ago is complete bollocks. I have in my possession addresses of houses bought and sold by the Rothschild's throughout the nineties. They make most celebrity homes look like shitty council flats. In any case, I'd trust an ex-KGB officer over youtube stuff and nonsense. However, as has already been pointed out in this thread, the Rothschild's are big, but they are not alone. As some one else pointed out, Lizzy conveniently hid her assets in the seventies. Her RTZ assets alone potentially dwarf most 'billionaires'. The sun never actually did set on the British Empire. Someone else mentioned the Holy Roman Empire, which the Saxe Coburg unt Gotta, sorry 'Windsor' family, are connected to, the sun never really set on that empire either.

Lizzie's ancestors 101:
thepeerage.com/p10070.htm#i100699 - Elizabeth II Windsor, Queen of the United Kingdom
thepeerage.com/p10264.htm#i102632 - Heinrich IV, Holy Roman Emperor
thepeerage.com/p884.htm#i8832 - Conrad II, Holy Roman Emperor
thepeerage.com/p10223.htm#i102226 - Friedrich II Hohenstaufen, Holy Roman Emperor
thepeerage.com/p10464.htm#i104640 - Friedrich I 'Barbarossa' Hohenstaufen, Holy Roman Emperor
thepeerage.com/p11425.htm#i114247 - Friedrich I Hohenstaufen, Duke of Swabia
thepeerage.com/p10107.htm#i101064 - Charlemagne, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
thepeerage.com/p41714.htm#i417134 - Pepin II of Heristal, Duke of Austrasia
Under the Companies Act 1976, limited companies arerequired to publicly list their shareholders . So couldn't we find out who the creditors are here? Well, no. In April 1977, BoEN became the only company ever to be given an exemption from this requirement. New Labour has confirmed that BoEN is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Bank of England, granted an exemption because:
it was considered undesirable that the disclosure requirements should apply to certain categories of shareholders.
In practice, this means that we are not even allowed to know who acts as attorney for the creditors of the national debt -- the nominees-- let alone the actual creditors. In effect, this means the Bank of England was re-privatised in 1977 via the BoE Nominees Ltd. Although it is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Bank, the BoEN’s secret shareholders – the nation’s creditors -- control the parent company.
Hansard, House of Commons The Secretary of State has granted oneexemption under Section 27(9) of theCompanies Act 1976 in favour of Bank of England Nominees Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Bank of England.They will hold securities as nominee only on behalf of Heads of State and their immediate family, Governments, official bodies controlled or closely related to Governments, and international organisations formed by Governments or official bodies. They will in turn seek certain assurances from anyone in the eligible categories who wishes them to hold the securities as that person's nominee. These assurances are to cover (a) the fact that the person is the beneficial owner of the securities to beheld by Bank of England Nominees Ltd.;(b) that the beneficial owner will not use his interest in any securities held by Bank of England Nominees Ltd. to influence the affairs of the company in which shares are held except as shareholders in general meetings of that company.HC Deb 21 April 1977 vol 930 cc151-2W
www.muscletalk.co.uk/Bank-of-England-Interesting-m4503527.aspx

As dom pointed out, there is a lot of good info in this thread. There is also a lot of dick waving. Can I put away my penis beam? (questions I'd never thought I'd type)

I am guilty myself of getting DIFfy with it, learnt my lesson, trying to move on, let's try to remember that this isn't DIF. If you are going to cut someone down, at least come bring something to the table. I believe most of us here are capable of that.

That be my 2 pennies worth.
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Rothschilds. Now I have already mentioned this on another thread. I am firmly swinging my penis beam on this one as I've had enough. If anyone here would like to accompany me to a mansion in south Ukraine to meet my Russian buddy, who is very closely connected to the old KGB and the FBS, you are more than welcome. His brother is a senior FSB official and has seen documents that estimate Rothschild wealth at £16 Trillion. The other figure that started getting banded about on youtube videos a while ago is complete bollocks. I have in my possession addresses of houses bought and sold by the Rothschild's throughout the nineties. They make most celebrity homes look like shitty council flats. In any case, I'd trust an ex-KGB officer over youtube stuff and nonsense.

Yet still no solid evidence :)
Nor will there ever be.
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Yet still no solid evidence :)
Nor will there ever be.

pffff. True Andy. True. :umm:

I still have all my old files though. This be a challenge...
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N. M. ROTHSCHILD & SONS LIMITED - company type: Private Limited Company 01/01/1968 - Active

Holding company: N M ROTHSCHILD HOLDINGS LIMITED (UK)
Holding company: ROTHSCHILD CONCORDIA SAS
Holding company: Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG
Other: Rothschild Trust Corporation Limited (UK)

Subsidiaries:

ROTHSCHILD NOMINEES LIMITED
SHIELD TRUST LIMITED
MENTOR INDUSTRIAL TRUST LIMITED
O.C. INVESTMENTS LIMITED
N.M. ROTHSCHILD & SONS (LEASING) LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD MANAGEMENT SERVICES LIMITED
N.M. ROTHSCHILD & SONS (INTERNATIONAL) LIMITED
NEW COURT FUND MANAGERS LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD PROPERTIES LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD RESERVE LIMITED
STATE SECURITIES PLC
ROTHSCHILD SILVER LIMITED
N.M. ROTHSCHILD & SONS (DENVER) LIMITED
FIVE ARROWS LEASING LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD FUND MANAGERS LIMITED
ROTHSCHILDS & CO. LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD GOLD LIMITED
STATE SECURITY LIMITED
FIVE ARROWS LEASING GROUP LIMITED
FINELINE MEDIA FINANCE LIMITED
OLD COURT LIMITED
LEASE PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD EUROPE LIMITED
ROTHSCHILD CONCORDIA LIMITED
FIVE ARROWS LEASING HOLDINGS LIMITED
SPECIALIST FLEET SERVICES LIMITED
FIVE ARROWS FINANCE LIMITED
NCCF HOLDINGS LIMITED
FINELINE HOLDINGS LIMITED
FIVE ARROWS MANAGEMENT LIMITED
MARPLACE (NUMBER 480) LIMITED
CAPITAL PROFESSIONS FINANCE LTD.
SHIELD MBCA LIMITED
ROTHSCHILDS CONTINUATION FINANCE PLC
STATE SECURITIES HOLDINGS LIMITED
MIST TWO LIMITED
ROTHMANS UK LIMITED
CARRERAS ROTHMANS (NI)
PHOTOGRAPHIC COLLECTIONS UK LIMITED
TOBACCO EXPORTERS INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
PEMBROKE GRAVURE LIMITED
ISS VENDING GROUP LIMITED
ISS SALES & LEASING LIMITED
R C B CREDITS LIMITED
FIRST NATIONAL BANK PLC

Name changed / Sold / or merged:
GREGTON FINANCE LIMITED
ABBEY NATIONAL PLC


That's by no means a complete list. But from there it would be possible to start to piece together a more exact total amount of their wealth.

To list every international company and interest would take around..... off the top of my head I'd say around 10 years :emb:
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....So all the people who are Jews are part of the NWO it's got to be in the simplistic minds of jew hater's.
In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of 'justice and peace.
Excerpt from article entitled "New World Order Pledged to Jews," in The New York Times (October 1940)human­spirit wrote:
Bol­she­vic­tim doesn’t men­tion that Sid­ney Rit­ten­berg was actu­ally impris­oned by the Chi­nese for a total of six­teen years ffs.
No proof of his innocence? Of course there are spies of all religions and races . But since this guy is Jewish, the Chinese are "Anti-Semites", say the 'Anti-Szechuans'... :chuckle:
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