I'm curious now, what do you make of this froggy?

www.dickgaughan.co.uk/forum/rules.html


I just read them not long ago from a link feather put up...

psketti wrote:
Just from a quick browse of Dicks forum rules I saw something very wrong...

^

diamondgeezer wrote:
Yeah but you gotta admit, he has a way with the words

As always with these things my friend, the devil is in the detail.

For instance the sections dealing with the editing, amending etc of contributions could feasibly expose the site to inadvertently breaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights_%28copyright_law%29

Personally, I would have no issue with a clause which places the legal responsibilities clearly back onto the contributor.

For example something along the lines of:

You are legally responsible for all contributions you make to sanctumzone.co.uk

Sanctumzone.co.uk does not accept any liability arising in connection with any material contributed to the website by any users or third parties, including liability for defamation, copyright infringement, infringement of moral rights, breach of privacy or inaccurate or incomplete material.

(I would take legal advice before considering implementing the above, I am not a lawyer).

As to the use of contributors work for any potential promotion, or event, for me the solution to that one is straightforward, just ask first.

I really do appreciate the work that has gone into this site so far and the difficulties faced. I also really appreciate the opportunity offered to discuss concerns and toss around ideas in an attempt to resolve them.

psketti wrote:
The problem is that's like comparing apples and oranges. One it's not intended to be a democratic community orientated site. Two part of the concept of this site is to develop a first class resource, which pools contributions and ideas from a diverse community to create unique and interesting content. I would be quite happy to accept his rules, if I were entering that arena, as they are not that different to ours in their general premise and intended spirit of goodwill.

I can't say that the entry with reference to copyright would bode well here, as that would prevent the inclusion of may of the news articles included here as a point of discussion.
The use of copyright material with respect to education and personal use is acceptable. This site is primarily aimed at personal education, and the sharing of knowledge within a community of people who share a common goal or interest. It's is also our intention to share that knowledge with our society as a whole, by delivering alternative opinions to those presented by main stream providers.

I can't say that I can see what we can draw from that example, as it's scope is far to narrow compared with the potential here. We also have our Community Guide Lines which cover things in a less formal yet firm manor. The two are intended to compliment each other and express the spirit of which this community has been founded.

For the record. I posted the Dick Gaughan thing purely for the comedy value.
He's an individual, he can do whatever he likes.
p.s. I didn't sign up for his forum.

psketti wrote:
Hitler had a way with the words too...would you join his forum?

featheredfish wrote:
I agree. And it's made me read and question things I normally wouldn't have given a second glance

Frog wrote:

I know froggy, sorry ... I was just being my usual self unfortunately

Please don't hit me again...



featheredfish wrote:

Again, sorry... couldn't resist throwing it in the mix over here just cuz I'm in that kind of humour

diamondgeezer wrote:

Why is everyone being so serious tonight? What have you all been drinking because you's need to swap it for something else

featheredfish wrote:
I would be up for a disclaimer along those lines. Ours should be covered by section 6.0.1 we could make an addition to place the onus on the contributor more, I guess. The community guide lines also express the need for personal responsibility.

I have people coming over shortly so I can't devote too much time here at the moment.

I agree with the asking first and in an ideal world that would be the best approach. What we need to consider is that people will drift in and out of our community, and we may not have the relevant personal information with which we could use to contact them directly. We actually don't attempt to harvest peoples personal details and there are no mandatory requirements in that respect. Which exposes us to abuse by people using and abusing their anonymity. It's up to the community to ensure that those types of abuses are discouraged. It's also difficult under those conditions to establish the real copyright holder as I'm sure you would appreciate.

psketti wrote:
In my case it's not so much what I have been drinking it's more an issue of sleep depravation. Nothing new there then. Carry on.

There was nothing wrong with you including it it was actually not a bad read considering the nature of the material.

Frog wrote:
Froggy dude go have a good night, relax and enjoy your company.
You deserve a break, you've earned it.
Thanks for all the work.

psketti wrote: Interntz = serious bidness!
srly!eleventy11!!

Frog wrote:

Cheers froggy

Now have fun then get to your bloody bed

featheredfish wrote:

woteeevvvvAARRR

Frog mate, when you next get a minute, could you please enlighten me on whadafuk " monopolising on a competitive ladder" actually means?

I guess I'm no longer down with the kids.

featheredfish wrote:

Froggy's a kid?

Frog wrote: What I'm getting at, is if someone has written something themselves or even done a picture, it would seem that under these rules, if they link/upload it here they are giving the site permission to do what it likes with it. Effectively granting a free and unlimited license.

If that's the case then I would personally have issue with that.

dubmeup wrote:


LOOK FROG I AM HERE!!!

Ye I can see that. How about a constructive input and proposal in stead of winging and moaning? Who has been active in this thread who put the docs together?

How much is Sean paying you tonight? Because that may as well be the situation.