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TOPIC: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970

Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 19 Jul 2012 16:57 #1

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Bloody hell. I read these quotes a while ago, but they've become an even clearer blueprint for modern society with every passing year.

Reading this is enough to send chills down your spine and is a reminder that when these counts and countesses (please read without the o's) meet at Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Council fo Foreign Relations etc. they are not only talking serious business, but they are discussing the implementation of a long term blueprint designed to enslave humanity.

I repeat "Bloody Hell".

Fortunately the bad guys always get their arses kicked in the end. :spank:

Between Two Ages : America’s Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski (1970)

Some quotes to read and weep to:

"The post-industrial society is becoming a “technetronic” society: a society that is shaped culturally, psychologically, socially, and economically by the impact of technology and electronics—particularly in the area of computers and communications."

"Charles R. DeCarlo, in “Computer Technology” (Toward the Year 2018, New York, 1968, p. 102), describes the use of “holography” to create the sensation of living presence—as well as the actuality of conversations—by long-range laser beams from a satellite."

". . . the United States has been most active in the promotion of a global communications system by means of satellites, and it is pioneering the development of a world-wide information grid. It is expected that such a grid will come into being by about 1975. For the first time in history the cumulative knowledge of mankind will be made accessible on a global scale—and it will be almost instantaneously available in response to demand."

". . . techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm, thereby weakening a nation’s capacity and forcing it to accept the demands of the competitor”

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. . . . The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."

And remember this was written 42 years ago!

". . . man has always sought to crystallize some organizing principle that would, by creating order out of chaos, relate him to the universe and help define his place in it."

"Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted, “I foresee a time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.”

"A society’s capacity for making such judgments [, discriminating between the necessity for order and the imperative of change,] is bound to be undermined by the degree to which it becomes psychologically inured to living with violence and to accepting violence as a means for solving its problems."

Here comes Obama...

"Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the stepping stones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society."

"It is ironic to recall that in 1878 Friedrich Engels, commenting on the Franco-Prussian War, proclaimed that “weapons used have reached such a stage of perfection that further progress which would have any revolutionizing influence is no longer possible.” Not only have new weapons been developed but some of the basic concepts of geography and strategy have been fundamentally altered; space and weather control have replaced Suez or Gibraltar as key elements of strategy. [24]

In addition to improved rocketry, multi-missiles, and more powerful and more accurate bombs, future developments may well include automated or manned space warships, deep-sea installations, chemical and biological weapons, death rays, and still other forms of warfare–even the weather may be tampered with."

"In addition, it may be possible—and tempting—to exploit for strategic-political purposes the fruits of research on the brain and on human behavior. Gordon J. F. MacDonald, a geophysicist specializing in problems of warfare, has written that accurately timed, artificially excited electronic strokes “could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth. . . . In this way, one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period. . . . No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades."
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 00:42 #2

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I'm thinking that I would like to obtain all the books that Brzezinski has written. Why do they write this stuff for us all to see. The PTB must be very confident that the sheeple will NEVER wake up now, or maybe the PTB want to use Brzezinski and others as their scapegoat at some stage in the future if all their plans fail ? Who knows.

I cant BELIEVE that the humanity is in this situation!!
"This aint no technological breakdown, oh no, this is the road to hell!" ~~ Chris Rea
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 10:19 #3

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Steevo wrote:
I'm thinking that I would like to obtain all the books that Brzezinski has written. Why do they write this stuff for us all to see. The PTB must be very confident that the sheeple will NEVER wake up now, or maybe the PTB want to use Brzezinski and others as their scapegoat at some stage in the future if all their plans fail ? Who knows.

I cant BELIEVE that the humanity is in this situation!!

Good questions and very big questions.

If you have so much power then why take any unnecessary risks by making public your plans? Plans that have been hatching through many, many generations.

Coming back to your final line: Humanity is in this situation. This surely must be clear to anyone who reads the quotes above; and similar ones from many other sources; and then observes not only the world around us, but what is planned for the very near future.

So why spill the beans? Possibly through arrogance, in the belief that the dumb masses will never awake from their slumber. And when I look around and look back on the last few years since I woke up, then I have to say that they are right. I personally don't see the remotest chance of a mass awakening... in the current circumstances. Something dramatic would have to change.

Another possibility is that much of what we are witnessing is magic (manipulation of various kinds) on a big scale. For some reason, the manipulators have to obtain the consent of their victims. Therefore we given the chance to see what dastardly plans they have prepared for us, but most are too ignorant / arrogant to take heed.

So where are the good guys while all this is going on? Surely they must be there somewhere, otherwise the bad guys would have controlled us completely a long time ago. This is an issue that really divides the "truth community". Some say very loudly that we can expect no outside help. Others say equally loudly that we can expect help only from XYZ if we do ABC.

Each one of us has to wrok this out for themselves. My feeling is that if there are genuinely good guys out there then they will have enough compassion and understanding to forgive us our errors along the way through what is an unbelievably complex maze of lies, bullshit and the occasional truth.

Personally I've experienced enough to say that I believe that we are in the middle of something so vast and weird that it will spring the boundaries of almost everyone. Although I don't know exactly what and I don't understand why, I believe that if we as individuals retain our humanity and keep on searching for truth with honesty and integrity that there might just be a happy end after all.
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 10:33 #4

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Anthony65 wrote:
So why spill the beans?
Predictive programming.

Predictive Programming is the practice of saying something is going to happen (predicting) enough times that people assume it will without question.
Once they have accepted this future event as a fait accompli their behaviors fall in line accordingly.

mindcontrolwiki.com/predictive-programming/
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 13:29 #5

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I agree that it is POSSIBILY Predictive Programming Novum. Also like Anthony65 says, they are legally giving us their Notice of Intent, and if we dont object to it strongly enough, then in Law, it means that we have given our agreement to it. The Daily Mail gives us Notices of Intent everyday, and we do not object to it strongly enough.

But WHY does Brzezinski take risks writing it in BOOKS ? Maybe he is mentally ill (I'm pretty sure that he must be), but I agree that he is probably very arrogant, and maybe he actually has no compassion, and he thinks completely different to us, maybe it is the R complex or something.

I think that the way out of this mess is NOT to wait for the cavalry. It's up to us IMO Awareness is required though, and at the moment humanity is slowly becoming aware. It all depends on when humanity becomes aware. It might take another millenium, but it will happen IMO, but obviously billions of people would have to suffer terribly, the longer it takes. Time doesnt really exist, it's all happening in the now, but many different illusions (magic) are being used on us to keep us confused and in a trance like state.

I agree Anthony65 that it IS so "vast and wierd", and we WILL experience SOMETHING that that will open EVERYTHING up, but I dont know what it is EITHER. Could be good and bad yin/yang.

AWARENESS IS THE KEY THOUGH I RECKON AND THE REST WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF :)
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 14:06 #6

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Steevo: Even if we absolutely knew the cavalry were coming, then that is no reason for us to stop working towards making the world around us and ourselves a better place.

I remember saying once "Even if today was the last day on earth, I'd still gift a tower with orgonite." And plant a tree of course! And help an old lady across the road (only if she wanted to cross it). Etc. etc. I'll definitely still be trying to get closer to the truth and figure out wtf is going on.

Our small actions may, or may not be, the actions that cause the scales to tip in one direction or another, or trigger a particular event to happen or not to happen.

I've got a couple of ideas for threads that might spark some lively debate, but I need to prepare a little beforehand. It's getting close to midnight in my opinion and I won't be arguing with anyone. People can take or leave anything I say. That's up to them, but there are some things that I feel should be at least put up for debate in a serious fashion.

I've been impressed so far that it is possible in the sanctum zone to have constructive debates without dickheads trying to derail the threads which of course was a massive problem on the DI forum. I hope this can be continued here and any silliness, daftness and general craziness finds their proper places in appropriate threads. There is a need for light hearted banter, but there is also a need for threads where we can share ideas and experiences in a deeper way.
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 20 Jul 2012 15:42 #7

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Anthony65 wrote:

Another possibility is that much of what we are witnessing is magic (manipulation of various kinds) on a big scale. For some reason, the manipulators have to obtain the consent of their victims. Therefore we given the chance to see what dastardly plans they have prepared for us, but most are too ignorant / arrogant to take heed.

Excellent point Anthony. I've got in to some interesting 'debates' with people in the past about the significance of 'rituals' in their own lives. People tend to react badly if you even hint that there might be something more to partaking in things that could be viewed as mass-rituals, such as certain religious celebrations or planned events. It's all worth thinking about though. Why would you just do it and not even question it, just because your parents did it?

Thinking about it, any kind of collective attention grabber (including TV, I suppose) has the capacity to massively alter reality, if you take for granted that everything is just energy in some form.

I think you may very well be on to something with this.

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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 21 Jul 2012 06:02 #8

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Dearest Anthony,
I present NOT an argument to you, but a question:

Were not these men suggesting a technological future?

I only ask this as my grandfather was an engineer and commented about outrageous things such as a 'reusable space plane', which turned out to the space shuttle.

Ham radio operators in the early 80's speaking of a medium of visual and audio interaction via computer, (like they did in the US Navy in 1970's. I thought they were nuts at the time; These days we call such the internet).

BTW, in the late 80's I personally knew two federal employees who spoke of a communication medium via computer, that enabled them to speak to units and agents across the nation; Frankly I thought they were just talkin' junk.

I'm not saying the persons you mentioned were good guys or bad guys; Face it, B was a bad guy, just like Kissinger, but I don't think he had any greater knowledge of 'things to come that were in the works' than any other engineer. It's just that Jane and John had no pre-knowledge of this.

The suppositions they brought forth have been in the works.
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 21 Jul 2012 09:36 #9

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84 year old Brzezinski is still meddling in international affairs. Here is his opininon on the current state of affairs in the Middle East. Anyone who doesn't know the man's background would think that he is warning against a conflict, but having read his visions for the future as described above we can be pretty sure that he is salivating at the prospect of an evil plan coming together.

Order out of chaos, which means the New World Order must be built out of the ashes of the previous civilizations.

www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/20/251832/...-economy-brzezinski/

"Former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski has warned that a US military confrontation with Iran could be devastating for the American economy.

“A war in the Middle East, in the present context, may last for years,” Brzezinski said in an interview with Newsmax.TV published on Wednesday.

“And the economic consequences of it (the war) are going to be devastating for the average American; High inflation, instability, insecurity,” he added.


He warned the US administration not to rush into a war with Iran and said, the consequences of yet another military strike in the Middle East “will be certainly very costly for the United States.”

The four-decade politician said that a possible closure of the Strait of Hormuz by Iran even not for a very long time would prompt the costs of oil to skyrocket as the vital oil-shipping route would be a dangerous passage as a result of the military conflict.

“In effect, the American taxpayer should be ready to pay $5 to $10 a gallon for the pleasure of having a war in the Strait of Hormuz,” Brzezinski explained.

He described democracy as the “best weapon of choice” in the present circumstances, but warned that negotiations over Tehran’s nuclear energy program would fail to yield result if they are meant to corner Iran.


“If the negotiations are designed to humiliate Iran and to put it in some sort of separate box, confining it to a status totally different from all the other signatories of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, then we probably will not get an agreement.”

The United States and Israel have repeatedly threatened that all ‘options’, including the military action, are on the table against Iran to force the Islamic Republic to halt its nuclear energy program, which Washington, Tel Aviv and some of their allies claim includes a military aspect.

Iran dismisses the allegations, arguing that as a committed signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, it has the right to use the nuclear technology for peaceful purposes."
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 21 Jul 2012 09:47 #10

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Coco wrote:
Dearest Anthony,
I present NOT an argument to you, but a question:

Were not these men suggesting a technological future?

I only ask this as my grandfather was an engineer and commented about outrageous things such as a 'reusable space plane', which turned out to the space shuttle.

Ham radio operators in the early 80's speaking of a medium of visual and audio interaction via computer, (like they did in the US Navy in 1970's. I thought they were nuts at the time; These days we call such the internet).

BTW, in the late 80's I personally knew two federal employees who spoke of a communication medium via computer, that enabled them to speak to units and agents across the nation; Frankly I thought they were just talkin' junk.

I'm not saying the persons you mentioned were good guys or bad guys; Face it, B was a bad guy, just like Kissinger, but I don't think he had any greater knowledge of 'things to come that were in the works' than any other engineer. It's just that Jane and John had no pre-knowledge of this.

The suppositions they brought forth have been in the works.

Hi Coco.

** As always: These are just my opinions at this particular time. **

The technological future was always destined to be part of the new world order which men at the level of ZB and Kissinger were fully aware of, even if they are still only the messengers of shadowy figures lurking behind them.

Technology that could have been used to improve the quality of life has been consistently abused for not only military purposes, but also, and even more chillingly in my opinion, to build a global police state apparatus that is designed to enslave all of mankind. This kind of plan doesn't come about by chance mental meanderings of people like ZB. The intelligence behind it is far greater.

Technology has become a Pandora's box which is designed to bring about even more bitter fruit.

For example, transhumanists believe that we as a species are redundant. We are "Human 1.0" in their twisted eyes. They look forward to the introduction of Human 2.0 and further models which are to be genetically modified chipped cyborgs that will be "better" than current humans in many material ways, but will lose their independence, free will, and, in my opinion, their soul connection. This is where we are heading, and although most of the people involved have no idea, there are evil SOBs who know exactly where this is going. But even the most powerful tools of evil are ultimately to be pitied because they have already lost, surrendered or had stolen from them their most precious possession.
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 21 Jul 2012 14:03 #11

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Thank you Anthony, you have caused me to redirect my thoughts. :)
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 23 Jul 2012 14:28 #12

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Good quotes, what's been going on since 1970 in the West and Globally since ZBig and his team won the Cold War has been hard and fast, the fact is what Brez wrote about was relevant and probably still is relevant, this is the world we live in, a lot of the ideology stems from the Enlightenment era, the Age of Reason, ZBig is a product of the control mechanisms 18th century "Philosophers" like Rousseau were writing about in "The Origins of Inequality".

From Between Two Ages:
"Technological adaptation would involve the transformation of the bureaucraticdogmatic party into a party of technocrats. Primary emphasis would be on scientific expertise, efficiency, and discipline. As has already happened in Ulbricht's East Germany, the party would be composed of scientific experts, trained in the latest techniques, capable of relying on cybernetics and computers for social control, and looking to scientific innovation for the preservation of Soviet security and industrial growth. Nationalism would replace ideological dogmas as the basic integrative principle linking society and the state.
Brzezinski

Cybernetics:
"Science concerned with the study of systems of any nature which are capable of receiving, storing and processing information so as to use it for control." -- A. N. Kolmogorov
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Re: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era Z Brzezinski 1970 26 Jul 2012 23:05 #13

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Interesting talk by Brzezinski, quite surprised by some of the things he says :poke:
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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bump.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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