There used to be a breakfast cereal called Grape Nuts....however it didn't contain either grapes or nuts.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape-Nuts

seedless grapes.. how to make them? we start at the end. you must succeed.

also, grape nuts are yummy

Thanks goes out to Monsanto for seedless grapes lol.
They genetically changed the DNA of the grape so that grapes would not germinate without their prior knowledge. The farmers who make grapes for mass market use fertilizers that are made specifically to grow Monsantos seeds only.
The reason they do this for all mass produced crops is so they can control growth and consolidation. They perfected a cradle to grave manufacturing process so profits can be gained and gained to the best possible point.

The distribution of raw food goods was so complex until Monsanto finished its research and put its plan into action. They can now grow any plant, vegetable or fruit to their specific standards which include taste, smell,size and weight.

When they are shipping billions of containers of raw food stuff around the world, their main aim is perfect logistics, and they caterer for the mass market supermarkets and food users such as restaurants and fast food chains. The reason some food goods change slightly from country to country is down to specific seeds and fertilizers that work in conjunction with atmospheres, weathers and soil PH's.

batou wrote:
Yes but do they have a big disclaimer on the box saying ''warning: this product contains no grapes or nuts of any kind''. if not, then its blatant misrepresentation, and you should sue their arses off however good they may taste.

Master11 wrote:
Parody post of how they want it to be...it hasnt got to that point (yet)

Years ago shops sold decent food, all them wee butchers,bakers,delicatessens,veg-shops,grocers etc

People are so used to shit supermarket food now, if confronted by a real bit of food they'd moan about it.

A good example is when I shared out a load of food from the allotment. You won't believe how many people moaned. The spuds had black bits in, the carrots were wierd shapes and hard to peel, the salad had a beastie in it, etc etc.

Supermarket food is easy to handle, and perfectly formed, but tastes of nothing.

jhado wrote:
Yep.

Look when you grow potatoes, carrots and other veggies under centre pivots and douse the entire crop from above with pesticide and kill any living animal that goes anywhere near the pivot circle, you do get less bugs and black bits.

mmm that produce is so Syngenta-licious and perty.

jhado wrote:
...And it isn't ready washed and diced. Boo-hoo!

Fools!

diamondgeezer wrote:
Should say Warning, Tastes LIke Cardboard

novum wrote:

Sorry Master but on the grapes your info is incorrect.

There are GM seedless grapes but GM is by no means a pre-requisite to seedlessness.
The seedless varieties aren't even really seedless, it's just that the seeds don't develop to the point of having a shell.
Chemical farmers use the application of gibelleric acid to prevent seed development.
Organic growers rely on using cuttings of seedless varieties. These varieties have been bred from vinus vinifera predominantly.

It was mentioned by Jhado that people turn their noses up at imperfect veg. This is something that is the blight (pun intended) of the Organic producers. The last farm I contracted to has a contract to supply Preva who are a company that supplies the supermarkets. The grading process on the farm is merciless. This is solely down to Preva and the supermarkets classing Organic food as a premium product and therefore demanding nigh on perfection. Every year that farm has to grade out hundreds of tons of perfectly edible veg because it's the wrong size or shape, has maybe been visited by wireworm or sundry other pathetic reasons. Some of it gets sold on to a local soup producer, the majority becomes stock feed. It's a travesty.
The supermarkets claim that the public demand a standardised 'product'. The real reason is that the supermarkets demand to sell it as a premium product.

You have disregarded the fact that Monsanto do indeed do this. I was not referring to organic grapes grown from Cuttings and grown in small batches.
I was referring to the mass produced variants used for mass produced products such as beverages etc.

Do you know who Monsanto fronts as in the UK Dubmeup?

You posted this,
"Thanks goes out to Mon­santo for seed­less grapes lol.
They genet­i­cally changed the DNA of the grape so that grapes would not ger­mi­nate with­out their prior knowl­edge. The farm­ers who make grapes for mass mar­ket use fer­til­iz­ers that are made specif­i­cally to grow Mon­san­tos seeds only. "

I pointed out that this isn't correct. Monsanto did not create seedless grapes (that doesn't imply that they don't produce seedles grapes).
As I also pointed out, many mass market farmers use gibelleric acid to prevent seed formation.
I'm not suggesting Monsanto aren't involved in seedless grapes, nor am i saying they don't perhaps intend to corner the market.
What I'm doing is clarifying the truth that seedless grapes are not a Monsanto invention.

Yes, I understand where you are coming from but you have only given a process that uses a chemical... You haven't taken into consideration where those seeds come from in the first place... They have perfected seeds for worldwide distribution whereby certain chemicals are used to germinate the seeds in a manner they require for a better consistency. That was Monsantos first aim.

Do you know who Monsanto front as in the UK for distribution?

diamondgeezer wrote:
It sounds like one of the many euphemisms for haemorrhoids in the old Viz comic strip, "Nobby's Piles".

[quote="Master11" post=45527...Do you know who Monsanto front as in the UK for distribution?[/quote]

I don't. What is it?

As I understand it Monsanto have two major seed distributors in Britain. Seminis and De Ruiters.
Glad to hear of any info you have Master.

Ab Origine wrote:

that reminds me when i was a kid in spain with my mam and dad. we were walking around a market and this old woman dressed in a black head to toe dress thing spat a load of seeds at me as i was walking towards her. i was upset by it lol.

bobster wrote:
Fucking tourists...

Ab Origine wrote:

that spanish sun doesn't half age people, she's only 26