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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 19:59 #61

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I would add, but Andyh is saying everything better than I EVER could :)
The material world is merely a tool. And tools can build,but they cannot create.
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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 21:06 #62

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I'm ready to trash everything I believe tomorrow if someone can show me that it's incorrect

Excellent :thumbup: I know it's not the original definition of wearing your heart on your sleeve but at the risk of opening up another debate about word/phrase meaning ;) that's a pretty good example of it by my understanding :)
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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 21:09 #63

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Guevarista wrote:
Do you think violence is the only way to change the government?

'Change' can mean many things.
I'm more interested in evolution than revolution for example.
I think your Taoism was a viable philosophy for everyday life 2000 or so years ago in Feudal China but I think to invoke Taoism as a method of living under/co-existing with the modern Capitalist state is slightly ill advised, to maintain the balance of Yin and Yang in modern Capitalist society would require the masses adopt an almost slave or pavement like passivity (yin) to counteract the assertive dominance (yang) of the Capitalist elite.
Ridiculous simplification of a very long story.
There is a lot of dualism in the past that tends to be irrelevant now, but much of Tzu's teachings apply even today just as Jesus' teachings still do. Taken as a whole all of these teachings can pass on a 'liberal education' which I've mentioned several times ;)
Have you seen the Corporation?
What did you think of that?

I have and I liked it, although it didn't go as deep as I would have liked to have seen in to the birth of the corporate entity.
All good educational stuff though, if you make it too long you only lose the interest of the audience I suppose.
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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 21:22 #64

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andyh wrote:
Yes,yes, keep going find older dictionaries and older books which reference it.

Sigh....again keep going and find older dictionaries and look for the earliest use of the word.

Also note how you used the word 'person' there? :)

Find an older dictionary, find a newer dictionary or find YOUR dictionary? The point I am making is that the word has different interpretations. You refuse to accept mine fine but I explained my interpretation so your nitpicking of my posts is not necessary. I really don`t proof read what I type but thanks for doing it for me.

Back to the original topic I noticed that David Icke is all friendly with Alex Jones now and I wonder if that is because they have the same agenda or are they just trying to use each other. Or is it something else.
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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 21:25 #65

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i-baster wrote:
andyh wrote:
Yes,yes, keep going find older dictionaries and older books which reference it.

Sigh....again keep going and find older dictionaries and look for the earliest use of the word.

Also note how you used the word 'person' there? :)

Find an older dictionary, find a newer dictionary or find YOUR dictionary? The point I am making is that the word has different interpretations. You refuse to accept mine fine but I explained my interpretation so your nitpicking of my posts is not necessary. I really don`t proof read what I type but thanks for doing it for me.

lol, your definition is actually not your own definition ;)
Thats the whole point I was trying to get across, you did say that people have difficulty agreeing on some words and I did give a subtle hint for you to find something out. Its up to you if you want to dig it up though.
Back to the original topic I noticed that David Icke is all friendly with Alex Jones now and I wonder if that is because they have the same agenda or are they just trying to use each other. Or is it something else.

Wasn't he always friendly with him? I thought it was just Makow he's fallen out with recently?
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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 21:57 #66

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Re: the unspoken 20 Aug 2012 22:07 #67

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i-baster wrote:
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lol :D

You don't. I doubt anyone will but you will at least have a better perspective with whats mentioned here- www.tragedyandhope.com/th-films/wybm/

Can't recommend it enough tbh.
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Re: the unspoken 21 Aug 2012 15:39 #68

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Mikhail Bakunin:
We are the most pronounced enemies of every sort of official power– even if it is an ultra-revolutionary power. We are the enemies of any sort of publicly declared dictatorship, we are social revolutionary anarchists. But, you will ask, if we are anarchists, by what right do we want to influence the people, and what methods will we use? Denouncing all power, with what sort of power, or rather by what sort of force, shall we direct a people's revolution? By a force that is invisible, that no one admits and that is not imposed on anyone, by the collective dictatorship of our organization which will be all the greater the more it remains unseen and undeclared, the more it is deprived of all official rights and significance...[Secret organizations] would finally have the strength of that close solidarity which binds isolated groups in one organic whole...These groups would not seek anything for themselves...and they would be in a position to direct popular movements...This is what I call the collective dictatorship of a secret organization.
Letter to Sergei Nechaev
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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