mikey mikey wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Free will?

What I am trying to say is this: whatever part of your choice is determined by external and/or enviromental and genetic/hormonal etc forces, ones only concern is the part in which you may exercise your dscrection.
I would suggest the role that this takes is much larger than what many religious people and most "informed by sciemce" so-called experts would like you to believe.
I'd say your "discretion" is still governed by your choice, and ability to choose, those choices also are governed by social forces, cultural ethics, values, etc, ie If somebody held ignorant views against an ethnic group, it would be "nice" to just accept his opinion, not to contradict him, for his peace of mind, or to allow him his beliefs, it would cause conflict if you were to argue with him, it might cause his reality to collapse if you prove him wrong, so the choice on what to do is dependent on perceived consequences for other people, it might satisfy you personally to beat him up, but what if everybody acted that way?
Ultimately cultural, genetic and philosophical input determines the parameters for the debate and conceptualization of freewill, so the debate itself is dependent on external contributions superior to and facilitating any idea of individual free will(development of language, reason and philsophy), any philospher you'd care to cite on freewill probably owed a lot of his "individual free will" to his environmental and educational influences.
I don't really think individual freewill exists, nor god in any religious or official conception.