I do however think that Tommy Sheridon and George Galloway were bad for going on holiday to Cuba

andyh wrote: SO you've never read a single work of marxism then? But you've read Mein Kampf??

damn tooting.............I'll be up there with kilts and haggis and shortbreard

dubmeup wrote:
It is kind of inevitable Dubs

Its actually a strong argument against any 'collective' kind of reasoning because we will always be individuals and we will always have differing opinions etc because we have all had different experiences and therefore outlooks on life etc.

Its very hard to find people who agree on important stuff like this, but they can agree on simple irrelevant stuff...mostly

This was the very argument HJ used ultimately iirc? :p

Guevarista wrote:
I've read a fair bit of both, certainly far more of marxism because I used to like it.
Then I discovered anarchism and saw it was all bullshit basically

so are you an anchirst Andy?

andyh wrote: What specifically did you read andyh?

Have to say andy, i'm increasingly convinced that opting to strip life right back, move down here and disassociate....was the right thing for me to do. Thatcher was right. Kotg was right. Look after yourself and your family. We're going to hell in a handbasket and we aint offering any resistance. Sometimes i bloody despair...

dubmeup wrote:
Fuck it, I'm disgracefully barging my way back in...

Theoretically I believe exchange is the problem. The only way any form of currency could work is with a complete change of mindset regarding money. If we're gonna bother having a complete change of mindset can we not also base it on a complete changing of how we engage with one another and value each others contribution to society?

dawnbreak wrote:
An anarchist yes, I certainly tick most of the boxes.
Not the anti-christ though

I'm not because I believe when everything goes tits up , there might be a god or gods.......perhaps I'm daft with that thought , but that is the thought I have

anti-christ lol .......don't be daft your actually quite nice

dubmeup wrote:
Who is this "we" you speak of?

dubmeup wrote:
I wouldn't say thatcher and kotg were right because they didn't actually say look after yourself, lol

I know what you're getting at though and yes there's little that you can practically do beyond sorting yourself out but then again its always been that way.
The more educated and intelligent you are the more hopeless it looks tbh

dawnbreak wrote:
Thanks
I might be anti-religious but I'm not anti-spiritual. I'm ludicrously pro-spiritual for sure. Mikey would attest to that,

dubmeup wrote:
In case he ever googles himself.

Yawn fucking yawn gue.

@oi. I agree entirely about it all working together. The way we interact is fucked up. Imo, this thread has become a case in point. The thread started as an experiment in trying a new way of interacting with an aim to pooling resources, namely our ideas. I'm trying to stimulate the very thing you're talking about in the safe environment of an internet forum. And it aint happening is it.

He's Catholic what does he know.................joke do not kill me

MICKEY you know i lufffs you

Guevarista wrote:
Communist manifesto comes to mind, also some stuff by trostky.
Later I read orwell, bakunin and then proudhon.
Then ofc I noticed Huxley and then Icke and Jones and all the usual claptrap and then I read wub, dub and oi