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TOPIC: The abuse of the word 'liberal'

Re: The abuse of the word 'liberal' 27 Oct 2012 13:25 #181

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Darwin's work was reflecting on the changes through many millions and billions of years.

As far as i know animals/mankind have stopped evolving.

Social Darwinism is bullshit as far as i am concerned,just another idea promoted by psychopaths to enforce their position ie keep the status quo.
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Re: The abuse of the word 'liberal' 27 Oct 2012 14:47 #182

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Human, that's a really interesting and quite bizarre statement, you think we've stopped evolving?

I think more along the lines of Nature is no longer the catalyst in human evolution
[The Bour­geois Dar­win­ists] claimed that only the exter­mi­na­tion of all the weak is in accor­dance with nature and that it is nec­es­sary to pre­vent the dete­ri­o­ra­tion of the race, while pro­tec­tion of the weak is unnat­ural and leads to degen­er­a­tion. But what do we see? In nature itself, in the ani­mal world, we find that the weak are pro­tected, that they don’t need to per­sist by their indi­vid­ual strength, and that they are not exter­mi­nated due to their indi­vid­ual weak­ness. And this arrange­ment does not weaken a group in which it is the rule, but strength­ens it. The ani­mal groups in which mutual aid is best devel­oped main­tain them­selves best in the strug­gle for exis­tence....
....Where then, is that power in nature that chooses the animals just as the breeder does?

Darwin pondered this problem long before he found its solution in the “struggle for existence.” In this theory we have a reflex of the productive system of the time in which Darwin lived, because it was the capitalist competitive struggle which served him as a picture for the struggle for existence prevailing in nature. It was not through his own observation that this solution presented itself to him. It came to him by his reading the works of the economist Malthus. Malthus tried to explain that in our bourgeois world there is so much misery and starvation and privation because population increases much more rapidly than the existing means of subsistence. There is not enough food for all; people must therefore struggle with each other for their existence, and many must go down in this struggle. By this theory capitalist competition as well as the misery existing were declared as an unavoidable natural law. In his autobiography Darwin declares that it was Malthus’ book which made him think about the struggle for existence.
“In October, 1838, that is, fifteen months after I had begun my systematic inquiry, I happened to read for amusement Malthus on population, and being well prepared to appreciate the struggle for existence which everywhere goes on from long continuous observation of the habits of animals and plants, it at once struck me that under these circumstances favorable variations would tend to be preserved and unfavorable ones to be destroyed. The result of this would be the formation of new species. Here, then, I had at last got a theory by which to work.”
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—Anton Pan­nekoek, Dar­win­isme en Marx­isme
www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1912/marxism-darwinism.htm
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Re: The abuse of the word 'liberal' 27 Oct 2012 20:12 #183

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I am talking of physical evolution Gue­varista,i don't think humans or animals have evolved lately,we have all our specialized tools such opposable thumbs.

Evolution took place along time ago,most people cannot comprehend the time period taken,humans are wired up to think in short time periods not thousands,millions of years.
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