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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 01:52 #21

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give me a rundown on where Conspiracy Theory is these days, what's the consensus,

Consensus amongst conspiracy theorists? :D

:killinme: :killinme: :chuckle:

Consensus?

:killinme: :killinme: :chuckle:

:couch:

:joker:

but seriously...

Can we at least perhaps reach consensus here that the monarchs and ruling classes arent lizards or controlled by lizards and that human beings are perfectly capable of running these capers? :larf:

Sorry to pull you up as an example Nov but in one post you 'laughingly' dismiss consensus then seek it. ;)

Did you miss that jesters hat? :joker:

Was just making a little joke about past occurances here...dont think ive ever stated for the record if i dismiss it or not. :up:

Again I wasn't seeking to single you out, merely trying to illustrate that the word 'consensus' has become a trigger amongst us. A bit like anarchy=chaos people suddenly think everyone being in agreement is a stance to mock. Whose purposes does that serve?
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 01:55 #22

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:coffee: Sorry Nov... but those giant LIZARD's in human form are in fact reptiles... not able to reach an consensus on that.
Not saying ALL higher ups are reptiles though, just a few of them... then you got shapeshifters and a whole slew of reptilian military that don't really have any power in the world at all but just follow orders.
Are you serious?
Please post some proof PLEASE :heart1:
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:13 #23

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Again I wasn’t seek­ing to sin­gle you out, merely trying to illustrate that the word 'consensus' has become a trigger amongst us. A bit like anarchy=chaos people suddenly think everyone being in agreement is a stance to mock. Whose purposes does that serve?

ok sure, and i dont feel singled out btw.

think we all know who it serves when the people disagree and argue amongst themselves hey. :queen: :fairo: :king:
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:16 #24

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Guevarista wrote:
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:coffee: Sorry Nov... but those giant LIZARD's in human form are in fact reptiles... not able to reach an consensus on that.
Not saying ALL higher ups are reptiles though, just a few of them... then you got shapeshifters and a whole slew of reptilian military that don't really have any power in the world at all but just follow orders.
Are you serious?
Please post some proof PLEASE :heart1:

:moon: theres ur proof :P lol
i cant bring myself to believe theyre human w some of the shit theyve been said to have done. besides satan says their not n hes real trustworthy :umm:
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:24 #25

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Better late than never, very interesting.
So what is this "New" World Order in your opinion, in what way do you think it's new?

Personally, I don't think it's new at all; and that there have been insider groups that have been working towards this for a very long time and they use the word "new" because of its positive connotations as being fresh and good. What NWO is, I think, is complete control over everything... making themselves as "gods" so to speak.

So, speaking of conspiracies, would you think this speech about NWO from George Bush, Sr. was coincidentally done on 9/11/91 - exactly ten years before the destruction of the WTC in NY?


“…What is at stake is more than one small country. It is a big idea, a new world order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of man kind; peace and security, freedom and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle and worthy of our children’s future.” George Bush Sr.

I think this event was meant to accelerate and usher in the age of NWO and if it is only a coincidence, well then, it is one of those mystical coincidences that have probably have no place in this thread.
Thank you for posting that, I do have a slight interest in numerology, especially on the digits of 1-9, crudely my position is; 9 signals completion in the numerological system I adhere to, 10 being the process of creation/destruction 11, 12,13, are just 1,2,3 again but on a new base.

The system I use is based on KJV of the Bible so the date of exactly 10years before the destruction of Sept 11th is highly relevent if only as an aside.

Could you share maybe what you think is the basis of the current dominant NWO, I think Bush's speech is a big sign, the Anglo-American right, if you want to get into political conspiracies and the development of the "NWO" research the Pilgrims Society.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:29 #26

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besides satan says their not n hes real trustworthy :umm:

:hmm:
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:36 #27

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Could you share maybe what you think is the basis of the current dominant NWO, I think Bush's speech is a big sign

Its interesting that Icke has written that the Bush's descend from alexander the great. Who could be said to have attempted the first WO perhaps?

Im not saying i buy into what Icke writes about that, but its interesting that he makes the connection, if only because he knows the idea (of a WO) isnt new. He may have lifted that idea from somewhere else (the alexander/bush thing) for all i know, havent looked into it.

Now alexander only got as far as the edges of India or something i think going off memory about 300 or so years BC..he didnt have the technology at his disposal that exists now of course, but the idea was similar perhaps.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:36 #28

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novum wrote:
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besides satan says their not n hes real trustworthy :umm:

:hmm:

what? :conf: i had the bastard over for dessert, had a nice conversation in which he made it clear who is not human n made a deal for him to stop throwin wrenches in my shit n breakin it (fair warning...u may get served on a platter sometime soon as he knows u by name lol)
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:48 #29

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There are some factual inaccuracies in your post Novum and some less forgivable mistakes.

I think it's fairly conclusively proven... phys.org/news97857326.html
...that all humans share a common ancestor at some point, which imo confirms the irrelevance of "cherry picking" an unsubstantiated "fact" about Bush's genetic lineage from a prior discourse you've engaged in.

To come straight out with the "it's his Genetics" answer seems rather ill conceived?
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 02:54 #30

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To come straight out with the "it's his Genetics" answer seems rather ill conceived?

Whoa bro you made a pretty big leap there in assuming what i think about human behaviour and that includes Bush.

I agree with you that we are more the same than different genetically.

My comment was more about the 'world order' they speak of and wish to achieve, where the idea originated perhaps...its seemingly not a 'new' idea is my point, and even that point depends on ones perspective on how long 2000 years or so really is in the grand scheme of things / human existence.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:00 #31

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Thank you for post­ing that, I do have a slight inter­est in numerol­ogy, espe­cially on the dig­its of 1 – 9, crudely my posi­tion is; 9 sig­nals com­ple­tion in the numero­log­i­cal sys­tem I adhere to, 10 being the process of creation/​destruction 11, 12,13, are just 1,2,3 again but on a new base.

The sys­tem I use is based on KJV of the Bible so the date of exactly 10years before the destruc­tion of Sept 11th is highly relevent if only as an aside.

Could you share maybe what you think is the basis of the cur­rent dom­i­nant NWO, I think Bush’s speech is a big sign, the Anglo-​American right, if you want to get into polit­i­cal con­spir­a­cies and the devel­op­ment of the “NWO” research the Pil­grims Society.

The Pilgrims Society's members seem to come from other secret socities with a common goal. When you ask what I think is the basis for current NWO - are you asking what I think their goal is?

Also, can you give me a taste of how you use the KJV as a system in numerology? I have never heard of this... , even if it is only a slight interest for you, I would be very interested, myself.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:05 #32

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There are some factual inaccuracies in your post Novum and some less forgivable mistakes.

I think it's fairly conclusively proven... phys.org/news97857326.html
...that all humans share a common ancestor at some point, which imo confirms the irrelevance of "cherry picking" an unsubstantiated "fact" about Bush's genetic lineage from a prior discourse you've engaged in.

To come straight out with the "it's his Genetics" answer seems rather ill conceived?

I think you have made some grave errors in your logic, here. But all is forgiven :rose:

Yes, we all share common ancestors... but most of us would have to go way back to get to that common ancestor as the tree will split off into thousands of branches from there. Where, it is said, I have only had a small look at these trees, some of today's leaders not only have a more recent ancestor in common, but may have several. Please don't ask me for proof because I am not going to go dig up trees and paste them here.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:12 #33

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Thank you for post­ing that, I do have a slight inter­est in numerol­ogy, espe­cially on the dig­its of 1 – 9, crudely my posi­tion is; 9 sig­nals com­ple­tion in the numero­log­i­cal sys­tem I adhere to, 10 being the process of creation/​destruction 11, 12,13, are just 1,2,3 again but on a new base.

The sys­tem I use is based on KJV of the Bible so the date of exactly 10years before the destruc­tion of Sept 11th is highly relevent if only as an aside.

Could you share maybe what you think is the basis of the cur­rent dom­i­nant NWO, I think Bush’s speech is a big sign, the Anglo-​American right, if you want to get into polit­i­cal con­spir­a­cies and the devel­op­ment of the “NWO” research the Pil­grims Society.

The Pilgrims Society's members seem to come from other secret socities with a common goal. When you ask what I think is the basis for current NWO - are you asking what I think their goal is?

Also, can you give me a taste of how you use the KJV as a system in numerology? I have never heard of this... , even if it is only a slight interest for you, I would be very interested, myself.
Numerology is present in the OT Narrative, -an alphabetical translation of an Alpha Numerical description of cosmogony- you deduce the meaning of the numbers by studying the scriptures, annotating the occurence of numbers, comparing the occurences etc..
To know the end of a thing, it's important imo to trace it's beginning, trajectory, development and course, that would be the basis, or alternatively what was the Old Order the Bush NWO emerged from>?
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:35 #34

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Very interesting. Thank you. It never occured to me that there could be a pattern. Do you think it was supernaturally placed there as a code?

Essentially, I think the new world order is the same as the old one. To have complete control of all resources, wealth and eventually people. To be as "gods".

I think many of these people are genuinely psychotic and this is a symptom. Where that psychosis comes from is another matter? :( Maybe some of it is in the blood. Not sure at the moment, tbh, what I think. Or, perhaps, not ready to say what I think. :conf:

I do defintely think the end game is ultimate control and power, and that a feature of psychosis may be total infatuation with the ego.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:52 #35

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Very interesting. Thank you. It never occured to me that there could be a pattern. Do you think it was supernaturally placed there as a code?
No I'm a materialist, I think it was specific to the culture of Judaism to use Alpha-Numerics when reasoning about the nature of reality/origins etc.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 03:57 #36

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Are they the ones who numbered the verses?
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 04:12 #37

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Okay, I just figured out that you were talking about numbers within the text.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 04:17 #38

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Yeah like the number of days of creation, the number of disciples etc.
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 04:23 #39

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Right, I see now. Do you have any ideas on why 666 is the mark of the beast?

And why 12 disciples? I have heard something about this before and how it correlates to 12 months, 12 inches to a foot and 12 to a dozen?
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Re: Can we talk Conspiracy plz? 15 Dec 2012 04:38 #40

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Well this is part of life isn't it to be asking questions about things :)
12 is the perceived order of "god's" government as according to the division of the constellations etc 12x3, 120x3 significant equations "seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you".

e2a: I don't know that 666 is the number/mark of the beast i've heard that could actually be 616, the key concept to grasp is that Hebrew was all Alpha Numerics.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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