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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 16:33 #21

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A forum can change the world in a small pond ripple kind of way. It might often feel like a waste of time or it might feel like way too much beast feeding but it is a matter really of your outlook on life.

We all live in the real world whether we know/like it or not. Some of us do our best to be above it or outside it but the fact is that in one way or another we feed the beast. A forum at worst is a place to go to find the worst in others and yourself and at best a forum can teach you about the world and bring you closer to others that as Gilly said you might not be geographically close to.

The problem with this forum is also a strength. It is a small community which I believe is a mixed blessing and curse but that is a whole other topic.

I hope if you leave that you enjoy the real world and I wish you all the best. If I leave the same applies.

Truth is this SZ forum is alot more than just a Anti-DIF because you gotta be able to see thru the mirage.

If you really look deep into the threads here you can see people mean well even when they argue.

So i would encourage members like Irre (The Wolf) & Dubs to help shape this forum as it slowly grows.

This forum is good for people who have yet to see a reptilian shapeshifter and are stepping away from CT.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 16:34 #22

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To be perfectly frank i dont see the status quo changing no matter what the minority does.

Because the majority feeds it so much anway, and they dont know any better.

Apologies for what some may call pessimism... i call it realism, its my prerogative... and saying these things may piss some people off.

So i see places like this as a way of connecting with some like minded folk.

That being said I do understand where dubs is coming from... may you find what you are looking for dubster. :up: :cool:

After years of conspiracy research since 2007 this is the exact same conclusion i came to...

But i was being honest when i told Dubs this in his thread putting the world to right.

In 5 – 10 years all of the next generation will have unlimited computer technology.

So it really comes down to having faith that the kids of today will shut down tptb organically.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 16:50 #23

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feather wrote:
oioioi wrote:
feather wrote:
If some want to conduct an online experiment in anarchist cooler collectives, I'm not fucking interested tbh.

I'm concerned to see the dialogue beginning to descend back into the realms of 'sheep', 'retard' etc

So on the one hand you don't want things to be done differently yet on the other you're surprised this encourages typical forum bahaviour?
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Lol, nice try, coconuts 0

I have no twitches about signing up to a set of conditions, having someone appointed to ensure members play by the agreed terms and letting them get on with it.

If either the terms or the referees don't suit my tastes, I move on. s'not hard.

If I were really commited to a situtation where everything was subjected to an endless consensus seeking format, I'd do my own just to show the doubting fuckers.

But truthfully, online forums don't mean that much.

This what I don't get feather, you seem to have a generally laid back attitude to the comings and goings on here yet get wound up by an idea that was put forward and was never compulsory. It wasn't even really the subject of the thread. :dunno:

As for being so committed to consensus to do it on my own, that isn't really consensus.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 16:58 #24

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oioioi wrote:
As for being so committed to consensus to do it on my own, that isn't really consensus.

I respect good one line quotables oioioi...

Was that plagiarism? :cool2:
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 17:47 #25

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oioioi wrote:
As for being so committed to consensus to do it on my own, that isn't really consensus.

I respect good one line quotables oioioi...

Was that plagiarism? :cool2:

By me or thee?
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 17:50 #26

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I think you can find yourself on forums...you can also lose yourself.

I don't think you can go wrong if you are 100% real in your interactions. There are genuine people to be found in forum land, and that's one of the big reasons I keep coming back. That, plus having no social life :chuckle:
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 18:39 #27

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Truth is this SZ forum is alot more than just a Anti-DIF because you gotta be able to see thru the mirage.

Just to clarify....

Neither the original Sanctum or the SZ were ever intended to be anti DIF or anti David Icke in any way whatsoever.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:08 #28

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diamondgeezer wrote:
Just to clarify....

Neither the original Sanctum or the SZ were ever intended to be anti DIF or anti David Icke in any way whatsoever.
It might be worth pointing out as well that I know for a fact that we lost people from contributing here due to the tendency of certain people to post anti-Icke stuff continuously. Which I really disagree with although I decided to keep quiet on the subject as I was simply causing arguments when I attempted to point that we're not supposed to be anti-Icke site.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:13 #29

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The forum was billed as an alternative and I do recall a lot of anti dif topics and comments. So regardless of the intent it was the perception. Hopefully the forum can move on and grow though. I think we need more active members personally. Too cliquey at times.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:23 #30

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There was bound to be a lot of anti-DIF talk initially, as most members had been shafted one way or another by the DIF staff. Most people got it off their chests, which I think is healthy, so no need to dwell on it really - or to avoid it either when new antics come to light. That doesn't mean it's 'an anti DIF forum' specifically.

If anyone here respects anything that Icke & crew have to say, that's OK in my book too.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:26 #31

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The problem was only ever with the tiny group of people that 'run' the DIF, not its membership nor Icke himself.
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:26 #32

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Gilly wrote:
There was bound to be a lot of anti-DIF talk initially, as most members had been shafted one way or another by the DIF staff. Most people got it off their chests, which I think is healthy, so no need to dwell on it really - or to avoid it either when new antics come to light. That doesn't mean it's 'an anti DIF forum' specifically.

If anyone here respects anything that Icke & crew have to say, that's OK in my book too.
I'm glad I got to meet you, Gilly, because I heard your name mentioned a few times on the DIF, but you were in and out (so to speak...) before I arrived. So I'm glad I've had the chance to 'meet' you here, because you're a very fair and valuable contributor, and I can't imagine you even conceivably doing anything that would warrant whatever happened to you in the past!
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:28 #33

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Thank you very much for your kind words, WUB - that means a lot to me. :)
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 20:37 #34

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I can confirm that Gilly was one of the good guys... ;)
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 21:34 #35

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Thank you DG. :)
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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 21:39 #36

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diamondgeezer wrote:
I can confirm that Gilly was one of the good guys... ;)
Subtley done DG. :thumbup:

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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 21:40 #37

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diamondgeezer wrote:
I can confirm that Gilly was one of the good guys... ;)
Subtley done DG. :thumbup:

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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 21:47 #38

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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 22:02 #39

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Best post you ever put up mate :notworthy: . But you still know sweet fa. about VW beetles :killinme:




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This is not going to be the easiest OP I've ever written. It may equally not be the easiest OP for others to read. Chances are some if not all may be offended by it, I would say sorry in advance but truth be known I'm not sorry so I won't. If you are offended by what I am going to say then you have choices. For example, you may just think badly of myself and my thoughts or consider what offends you about those thoughts. You could dismiss these words outright or consider them in relation to yourself with an open mind and heart.

So, here goes:
It's now my considered opinion that participation in forums like this is not only a complete waste of time but is also contributing to the continuation of the status quo. Not only the external status quo where the Human race is walking blindly toward an abyss but the internal one where our egos protect us from considering and taking responsibility for, the consequences of our actions/inaction.

Every single one of us that either reads or posts on the internet can only do so because we are throwing fuel on the fire of the status quo. Be it paying for an ISP, a mobile phone, Wi-fi in a cafe or whatever. We each come to the internet with our points of view, our notions of what's wrong with the world and our visions of how it could be a better place. We read and post millions of bytes of data and every single byte goes toward enabling the very things we say we oppose.
Perhaps it could be argued that it's a 'necessary evil' to do so. That the effects of throwing fiat at the corporations to gain access to the internet are far outweighed by the potential for change in what we type and read. It would be a fair argument should the content of our interactions actually be effecting some form of 'real' change for the betterment of all. But it's pretty clear that isn't the case.

What do we do here and on other such forums? Think about it for a moment. We do sweet fanny adams. We go round and round in circles discussing events in the news when we already know what lies behind it all. We go round and round in cyclical argument about our different perceptions of the World, often building up persistent divisions and ill feelings in the process. We pat each other on the back, slap each other in the face and paper over cracks in each others fallibilities. We jump down each other's throats when we perceive hidden meanings in each other's words which may actually be nowt but our own projections. We prop up egos, attack egos, create outcasts and form subsets. We convince ourselves we are right and often look down our noses at those we think are wrong. This could be a very long paragraph...

All the while whilst we do this, the World is going to hell in a hand basket with us offering no resistance whatsoever. We are all shilling for the status quo and the supposed 'New World Order'.

I have decided to address this in my little corner of the World. I am taking a step back from the cut and thrust of pointless internet forumming and am instead going to concentrate on 'walking away'. Time spent online could be better spent elsewhere. Learning new skills, practicing old ones, networking and community building, reducing reliance on fiat 'money', meditating, being an active and fully engaged part of nature and addressing the bits of my ego that are plainly dysfunctional. This is not to say that I am giving up visiting places like this altogether, rather that it's time I put the world of the forum into perspective and treated it accordingly.

That of course means I won't be engaging in any debate about what I just wrote.

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Re: A thread with no real title 28 Dec 2012 22:09 #40

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Thank you DG. :)

Welcomes :)

I did think at one point that my overly enthusiastic use of the :roll: smiley was getting me into dangerous territory with you however..

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