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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:22 #61

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I think our environment and the nurture situation are things that we are able to control in how we will react to it. You can have an abused kid who grows up to be a killer, and someone who was abused even more severely who will not. Those are decisions and are not beyond our control. They shape us only how we decide they will.

But I interpret that as we all have the potential/blueprint/capability to do what any other human has done already, be that good or bad/evil, you seem to suggest otherwise.

We all have our own unique genetic blueprints, and certain things to overcome. Whether we choose to or not is where the difference lies. It is only a blueprint, it is not the house. We decide what we put into our "houses".
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:45 #62

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Well yes, if you weren't able to experience guilt, you couldn't really have a conscience and would be a sociopath - but it's a gift to reject hanging on to guilt & torturing yourself with it I suppose. And not accepting guilt that other people try to unjustly hang on you. Folk are always doing that!

What I mean to say is that if you live your life not intentionally doing harm to others in any shape or form, verbally, physically, or be bearing false witness towards them, or taking or stealing from them, etc. then you have no reason for guilt.

I don't think it ever need to be more complicated than "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Yep spot on.
Now why would there be a gene for any of the above? :)
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:46 #63

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We all have our own unique genetic blueprints, and certain things to overcome. Whether we choose to or not is where the difference lies. It is only a blueprint, it is not the house. We decide what we put into our "houses".

Yep agreed again.
I'm beginning to wonder why you bothered to mention the twins? :)
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:49 #64

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Well, you know that genetics decide physical appearances, right? And our interiors too, most likely. Why would they also not effect our behaviors, likes, dislikes, etc.?

That would be the blueprint, of sorts, for a person. His mind, heart and intentions would make the adjustments and fill out what becomes the fully fleshed being.

Pretty obvious basically, if you grew up in an innuit community do you think you would prefer a brick house or an igloo?
Do you actually think DNA gives you those ideas?

His mind would give him the idea of the igloo. However, his DNA might make him want to build a bunker that he really did not need and if he looked into his family tree he might find that his ancestors all had the same predeliction.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:52 #65

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i will absolve all your sins and give you new ones. come hither. :rofl:


:rofl: :larf:

This is where I think certain religions have it wrong.

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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:55 #66

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noseymutegirl wrote:
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Well, you know that genetics decide physical appearances, right? And our interiors too, most likely. Why would they also not effect our behaviors, likes, dislikes, etc.?

That would be the blueprint, of sorts, for a person. His mind, heart and intentions would make the adjustments and fill out what becomes the fully fleshed being.

Pretty obvious basically, if you grew up in an innuit community do you think you would prefer a brick house or an igloo?
Do you actually think DNA gives you those ideas?

His mind would give him the idea of the igloo. However, his DNA might make him want to build a bunker that he really did not need and if he looked into his family tree he might find that his ancestors all had the same predeliction.

What I'm trying to get at is that his environment and upbringing would make him only aware of the igloo because he would grow up as a kid in an igloo and he'd see his mum and dad build the igloo.
They would not use bricks nor would he even know what a bunker is unless he had an internet connection up there in the middle of nowhere...although that actually is beginning to happen! ;)

So bricks are not in our DNA they are an idea that is passed on by our education-environment.

There are many other examples and they dwarf any that come from inherited genetics.
The best examples I know of re race memory are things like being afraid of spiders,scorpions etc and not without good reason as some spiders and/or scorpions are killers. We call them phobias but they're there for a reason.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 18:56 #67

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andyh wrote:
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We all have our own unique genetic blueprints, and certain things to overcome. Whether we choose to or not is where the difference lies. It is only a blueprint, it is not the house. We decide what we put into our "houses".

Yep agreed again.
I'm beginning to wonder why you bothered to mention the twins? :)

Genetics can give you predilictions. Even down to the way you stand or cross your arms.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:01 #68

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We all have our own unique genetic blueprints, and certain things to overcome. Whether we choose to or not is where the difference lies. It is only a blueprint, it is not the house. We decide what we put into our "houses".

Yep agreed again.
I'm beginning to wonder why you bothered to mention the twins? :)

Genetics can give you predilictions. Even down to the way you stand or cross your arms.

Predilictions are tendencies, not written in stone but the tendencies can be amplified or reduced by environment.
Its also correct to state that not all people become sociopaths because they were absused as kids...the likelihood is merely amplified.
The danger happens when eugenicists start to label people with genetics as definitely being this that or the other..that would be gattaca territory a modern form of nazism.



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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:09 #69

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The danger happens when eugenicists start to label people with genetics as definitely being this that or the other..that would be gattaca territory a modern form of nazism.

I don't want that!

In fact, I am totally against all genetic tampering that is going on at the moment.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:22 #70

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The danger happens when eugenicists start to label people with genetics as definitely being this that or the other..that would be gattaca territory a modern form of nazism.

I don't want that!

In fact, I am totally against all genetic tampering that is going on at the moment.

If people start to believe that DNA has any strong influence on our lives then Gattaca will become reality , worse still actually would be gattaca mixed in with transhumanism, would would be the ultimate mind f*ck.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:41 #71

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I don't think our genetics should be tampered with. I think what got this conversation started is because I said I thought they were tampered with long ago and that is what got our world into the state it is in today. Further tampering will make it even worse.

I stand by my earlier statement that there was at time before the tampering, that people lived peacefully and it would not cross someone's mind, to hurt someone else, because there would be no need to.

Let me ask you a question, you said something about DMT the other day. DMT is in our brains already, as I understand it. Do you think certain things could trigger that DMT? The native americans have a saying that people get visions when they are in great physical pain or when they are about to die. Do you think that could be true, and do you think it was DMT that was triggered, or something else? And what about whatever visions that would happen? What would or should someone make of those visions?
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:42 #72

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That article is seriously disturbing RA :(

dailymail... :uk:

British newspaper article....about American nutters :usa:
truth-zone.co.uk/ - the other place...

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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 19:53 #73

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Hey, I just had a thought that might interest you, Andy. What if the Annunaki, what the Christians call the Fallen Ones, what if the fable of them coming here for gold (I think I got that right)... was really that they were the ones who introduced the monetary system to earth and effed everything up. How about that? :down:
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:03 #74

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I always took you for a bloke, night gaunt, don't know why :hahano: That wil teach me to assume.
Quite all right, i did grow up gender confused :rofl:
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:05 #75

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Night Gaunt, some people refer to the apple as representing 'knowledge' - as if we were meant to have been ignorant.

It was always just about keeping women subservient & controlled - well, more than that really, but I'm late going out. got to dash.
Oh i believe it, why else would women be more intelligent than men? :D
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:11 #76

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Oh i believe it, why else would women be more intelligent than men? :D

True, true. They'll be on here in droves now, making words up left, right & centre, in a brave pretence of intellectual superiority! :rofl:
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:23 #77

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noseymutegirl wrote:
I don't think our genetics should be tampered with. I think what got this conversation started is because I said I thought they were tampered with long ago and that is what got our world into the state it is in today. Further tampering will make it even worse.

I stand by my earlier statement that there was at time before the tampering, that people lived peacefully and it would not cross someone's mind, to hurt someone else, because there would be no need to.

Let me ask you a question, you said something about DMT the other day. DMT is in our brains already, as I understand it. Do you think certain things could trigger that DMT? The native americans have a saying that people get visions when they are in great physical pain or when they are about to die. Do you think that could be true, and do you think it was DMT that was triggered, or something else? And what about whatever visions that would happen? What would or should someone make of those visions?

DMT or something similar is definitely naturally present everywhere yes :)
As for its purpose I don't know.
I'm also curious about it but I don't have all the answers.

Another mystery is the pineal gland and why its calcifies as we go into adulthood.
I would swear that I was far more imaginative and creative and had far more lucid dreams as a kid. Its possible this is connected and its possible that calcification of the pineal gland is not normal...pure speculation though :)
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:24 #78

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noseymutegirl wrote:
Hey, I just had a thought that might interest you, Andy. What if the Annunaki, what the Christians call the Fallen Ones, what if the fable of them coming here for gold (I think I got that right)... was really that they were the ones who introduced the monetary system to earth and effed everything up. How about that? :down:

lol!
Thats an interesting thought :)

Its possible I suppose...it does present a reason for us to go digging for the stuff and valuing it.
I like the original thinking there though and it is a possibility for sure.
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 20:27 #79

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There are tips here on decalcifying the pineal gland...

consciouslifenews.com/five-health-tips-d...ineal-gland/1141164/
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Re: Why are the abrahamic religions so sexist? 29 Dec 2012 21:10 #80

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There are tips here on decalcifying the pineal gland...

consciouslifenews.com/five-health-tips-d...ineal-gland/1141164/

One of the foremost things I've been looking at, thanks Gilly!

IMHO from what I've researched what works best is simply plenty of fluoride free water (hexafluorosilicic acid free not calcium fluoride this occurs naturally and the body can dispose of it) along with food grown naturally again watered free of pollutants.

What I fear is that the damage is permanent once done :(

If thats the case then what is done to us with these pollutants....sigh...it doesn't even bear mentioning does it?
Its a most heinous crime indeed,
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