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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 07 Feb 2013 20:47 #1

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Just wondering.

Also, what does someone's choice of paper say about them? I'm including the online version there, as lots of people don't want actual papers.

Guardian reader - a bit of a politically correct, lefty lentil weaver
Times - Conservative voter, capitalist but intelligent with it
Independent - not sure, that's what I read though

Do you read a sensible type broad sheet and a "comic" one for entertaiment. I like the Daily Mail, for the comments mainly. :chuckle: Especially on articles about benefit cheats, obesity and immigration. :thumbup: Comedy gold.

The telegraph is also popular for the same reason apparently. The Sun and Star too propbably.
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 07 Feb 2013 23:28 #2

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I find myself flitting between a random selection but reading far less of any of them than I used to. Because I find then depressing or irritating. I do find myself often finding the comments sections more interesting than the actual articles. The Mail is funny but also scares the shit out of me. Because people genuinely base their worldview on reading it daily.
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 07 Feb 2013 23:32 #3

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Excellent point re people just forming opinions from one source generally.

Since distancing myself as much as possible from MSM and only reading it when I want to find out more about something, I've noticed that the majority of papers don't half talk some shit.

The best you can hope for from most of them is a glimpse into someone elses slightly slanted view of things. Even if you're the first person ever to read that article, it's still second hand and coloured by the monkey that wrote it.

I used to think papers like the 'The Independent' weren't as bad as this, but they seem to be churning out the same sort of crap lately - or maybe my 'world-view' has just shifted slightly?

As for news television...don't even get me started. As with all things/products motivated by profit, very often, you'll get told exactly what you want to hear rather than just the bare bones facts. Such is the world we live in.
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 07 Feb 2013 23:58 #4

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dogsmilk, I try not to think that the Mail comments might be serious! I haven't signed up to comment on any news sites, otherwise I'd probably become addicted. :chuckle: Can you post the funniest comments you find on this thread please. :D :flower:

You're right Abs, on any given day, they all seem to run the same main stories, but then some of it is genuine news. The journalists must just nick the content off each other and rewrite it. In all honesty, I read the MSM news because other people like to talk about it. This means that if someone says "Isn't it terrible about...." I know what they're on about. Also, reading MSM propaganda is very revealing when it comes to deciphering what's really going on.

TV is shite full stop. Apart fom some comedies and cartoons. SZ is more entertaining :thumbup:

I'm addicted to sugar-free sweets with Xylitol since I quit smoking. I'm sitting doing the most massive loudest farts. The trapped wind is amazing, like when Vivian from the Young Ones thought he was pregnant.

Shitting Hell... if you want epic arse wind (but possible risk of following though), order these poncy sugar free sweets...www.amazon.co.uk/Sen-Cha-Green-Mints--Bo...d=1360281199&sr=8-12

The evil little fuckers are so moreish and lush, but oh dear, your arse will suffer if you eat too many. They COULD have a laxative effct i n exess, luckily it's just mamouth farts for me. :thumbup:

Back on topic ...news. That was my news anyway. A consumer report about health foods with special arse powers.

Other journalists feel free, We'd like to hear yours...

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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 08 Feb 2013 17:35 #5

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dogsmilk wrote:
The Mail is funny but also scares the shit out of me. Because people genuinely base their worldview on reading it daily.

Same here :D
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 08 Feb 2013 18:22 #6

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I never buy papers now. Most,(actually it may be ALL), of the 'news' info I get is online.

The Daily Fail comments section scares me too.
If it does all go tits up and that mob come out on top I'll volunteer to go to the wall to be shot first.
(I'll also make sure to wear clashing colours and out-of-season footwear to freak out the twisted witches who write the gossip and fashion shite).

I tend to use Google News because it pulls from a large number of sources.
The sad part of that experience is the realisation that most 'news' outlets are using the same basic copy. :(
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 00:58 #7

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I buy the I it's about all I can afford, occasionally private eye, online I like to read everything and anything really, Red Pepper is good if you like the Guardian :)

Have a look around your local library, they will keep back issues of all the magazines they get in, I buy back issues of the New Statesmen and the Spectator in bundles of ten for £1, I find it's actually more useful than buying them upon release, I find what usually lacks in mainstream media is a substantial narrative or insight into how the story and or press coverage of the story has developed, I find you tend to get more of a rounded view of events when you step outside the constantly generated rolling media, getting those two in particular gives you a good idea of the modern Left Right neo liberal dialectic.
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 01:41 #8

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"The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
And everyday the paper boy brings more..."


*This post may or may not have been somewhat inspired by listening to bandits Floyd thread*
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 07:12 #9

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psketti wrote:
"The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
And everyday the paper boy brings more..."


*This post may or may not have been somewhat inspired by listening to bandits Floyd thread*

"The lunatic is on the grass ... " :psketti:
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 11:47 #10

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feather wrote:
psketti wrote:
"The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
And everyday the paper boy brings more..."


*This post may or may not have been somewhat inspired by listening to bandits Floyd thread*

"The lunatic is on the grass ... " :psketti:

Yeah :psketti:

Thought those two lines would be perfect for this thread :cool:
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 11:52 #11

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psketti wrote:
feather wrote:
psketti wrote:
"The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
And everyday the paper boy brings more..."

*This post may or may not have been somewhat inspired by listening to bandits Floyd thread*
"The lunatic is on the grass ... " :psketti:
Yeah :psketti:
Thought those two lines would be perfect for this thread :cool:
Ohh they are.
I just wasn't about to miss the opportunity to have a dig at you is all. :D
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 11:56 #12

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feather wrote:
psketti wrote:
feather wrote:
psketti wrote:
"The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
And everyday the paper boy brings more..."

*This post may or may not have been somewhat inspired by listening to bandits Floyd thread*
"The lunatic is on the grass ... " :psketti:
Yeah :psketti:
Thought those two lines would be perfect for this thread :cool:
Ohh they are.
I just wasn't about to miss the opportunity to have a dig at you is all. :D

Wouldn't expect anything else :D
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 12:26 #13

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dogsmilk, I try not to think that the Mail comments might be serious! I haven't signed up to comment on any news sites, otherwise I'd probably become addicted. :chuckle: Can you post the funniest comments you find on this thread please. :D :flower:

You're right Abs, on any given day, they all seem to run the same main stories, but then some of it is genuine news. The journalists must just nick the content off each other and rewrite it. In all honesty, I read the MSM news because other people like to talk about it. This means that if someone says "Isn't it terrible about...." I know what they're on about. Also, reading MSM propaganda is very revealing when it comes to deciphering what's really going on.

TV is shite full stop. Apart fom some comedies and cartoons. SZ is more entertaining :thumbup:

I'm addicted to sugar-free sweets with Xylitol since I quit smoking. I'm sitting doing the most massive loudest farts. The trapped wind is amazing, like when Vivian from the Young Ones thought he was pregnant.

Shitting Hell... if you want epic arse wind (but possible risk of following though), order these poncy sugar free sweets...www.amazon.co.uk/Sen-Cha-Green-Mints--Bo...d=1360281199&sr=8-12

The evil little fuckers are so moreish and lush, but oh dear, your arse will suffer if you eat too many. They COULD have a laxative effct i n exess, luckily it's just mamouth farts for me. :thumbup:

Back on topic ...news. That was my news anyway. A consumer report about health foods with special arse powers.

Other journalists feel free, We'd like to hear yours...

Back om

Errr and you want to have a meet for a coffee ffs :O :nono:
Not unless you can furnish me with one of these :up2:
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 13:09 #14

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I just thought I'd post this because it's such a great piss-take that really fits the topic.

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I just thought I'd post this because it's such a great piss-take that really fits the topic.


:roflha:
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What MSM news paper/sites do you read? 09 Feb 2013 14:25 #16

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Great video thanks Dawg, here's the theoretical run down forgive the critical tone it's Jacques Ellul, those Anarcho primitivists ;)
The average citizen wants to have opinions on domestic and foreign issues. But in reality, he can’t. He is caught between his desire and his inability, which he refuses to accept. For no citizen will believe that he is unable to have opinions. Public opinion surveys always reveal that people have opinions even on the most complicated questions, except for a small minority (usually the better informed and those who have reflected the most). The majority prefers expressing stupidities to not expressing any opinion.

For this they need simple thoughts, elementary explanations, a “key” that will permit them to take a position, and even ready-made opinions. As most people have the desire and at the same time the incapacity to participate, they are ready to accept a propaganda that will permit them to participate, and which hides their incapacity beneath explanations, judgments, and news, enabling them to satisfy their desire without eliminating their incompetence.

The individual does not want information, but only value judgments and preconceived positions. Here one must also take into account the individual’s laziness, which plays a decisive role in the entire propaganda phenomenon, and the impossibility of transmitting all information fast enough to keep up with developments in the modern world.

Besides, the developments are not only beyond man’s intellectual scope; they are also beyond him in volume and intensity; he simply cannot grasp the world’s economic and political problems.

Faced with such matters, he feels his weakness, his inconsistency, his lack of effectiveness. He realizes that he depends on decisions over which he has no control, and that realization drives him to despair. Man cannot stay in this situation too long. He needs an ideological veil to cover the harsh reality, some consolation, a purpose, a sense of values. Only propaganda offers him a remedy for a basically intolerable situation …

If we look at the average man, and not at those few intellectuals whose special business it is to be informed, what do we actually mean when we say this man is informed? It means that, aside from spending eight hours at work and two more commuting, this man reads a newspaper or, more precisely, looks at the headlines and glances at a few stories. He may also listen to news broadcasts, or watch it on TV; and once a week, he will look at the pictures in some kind of news magazine (Time, Newsweek, etc.). This is the case of the reasonably well-informed man, that is, of 98% of all people.

Now, what happens next to a man who wishes to be informed and receives a great deal of news each day? First, straight news reporting never gives him anything but factual details; the event of the day is only always a part, for news can never deal with the whole. Theoretically, the reporter could relate these details to other details, put them into context and even provide certain interpretations–but that would no longer be pure information. Besides, this could only be done for the most important events, whereas most news items deal with less important matters.

But if you shower the public with the thousands of items that occur in the course of a day or week, the average person, even if he tries hard, will simply retain thousands of items which mean nothing to him. He would need a remarkable memory to tie some event to another that happened three weeks or three months ago. [or access to a public library ;) ]

Moreover, the array of categories is bewildering — economics, politics, geography, and so on — and topics and categories change every day. To be sure, certain major stories occasionally become the subject of continuous reporting for several weeks or months, but that is not typical.

Ordinarily, a follow-up story on a previous news item appears two weeks to a month later. To obtain a rounded picture, one would have to do research, but the average person has neither the time or desire for it. As a result, he finds himself in a kaleidoscope in which thousands of unconnected images follow each other rapidly. His attention is continually diverted to new matters, new centers of interest, and is dissipated on a thousand things, which disappear from one day to the next.

The world becomes remarkably changeable and uncertain; he feels as though he is at the hub of a merry-go-round, and can find no fixed point or continuity; this is the effect information has on him. Even with major events, an immense effort is required to get a proper broad view from the thousand little strokes, the variations of color, intensity, and dimension the paper gives him. The world thus looks like a pointilliste canvas — a thousand details make a thousand points. Moreover, blank spots on the canvas also prevent a coherent view.

Our reader would then have to be able to stand back and get a panoramic view from a distance; but the law of news is that it is a daily affair. Man can never stand back to get a broad view because he immediately receives a new batch of news, which supersedes the old and demands a new point of focus, for which our reader has no time.

To the average man who tries to keep informed, a world emerges that is astonishingly incoherent, absurd, and irrational, which changes rapidly and constantly for reasons that he cannot understand. And as the most frequent news story is about an accident or calamity, our reader takes a catastrophic view of the world around him. What he learns from the paper is inevitably the event that disturbs the order of things. He is not told about the ordinary — and uninteresting — course of events, but only of unusual disasters and crime, etc., that disturb that course. He does not read about the thousands of trains that every day arrive normally at their destination, but he learns all the details of a train accident....
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