Not only that, most people who criticize her are doing so without reading her research first hand, and use incomplete, inaccurate or plain false assertions that others have used when assessing her work. One idiot bouncing off another.
Ok, is Judy Wood 1-1000, a "scientist" with a pretty unique theory about what happened?
Are there many other scientists in her field who agree with her or do the overwhelming majority support the official explanation?
The general consensus seems to be that, those who understand her work support it, and those with enough professional experience about them (Engineers for 9/11 truth and the like) don't support the official theory.
Good example, take Engineers for 9/11 truth, as a percentage of all American Engineers how many support the theories of Judy Wood compared to how many support the official explanation?
It's maybe around >%5 of American scientists or engineers who don't support the official explanation, my point is mainly about consensus, any "lone nut" scientist can come out with a theory and get it reviewed by their buddies, the reality is what the majority of experts in a field agree on, not what one "potentially brilliant" scientist has theorized about Star Wars weaponry, have there been any peer reviews of Judy Wood's theories?
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07 Feb 2014 12:16 #43
Not only that, most people who criticize her are doing so without reading her research first hand, and use incomplete, inaccurate or plain false assertions that others have used when assessing her work. One idiot bouncing off another.
Ok, is Judy Wood 1-1000, a "scientist" with a pretty unique theory about what happened?
Are there many other scientists in her field who agree with her or do the overwhelming majority support the official explanation?
The general consensus seems to be that, those who understand her work support it, and those with enough professional experience about them (Engineers for 9/11 truth and the like) don't support the official theory.
Good example, take Engineers for 9/11 truth, as a percentage of all American Engineers how many support the theories of Judy Wood compared to how many support the official explanation?
It's maybe around >%5 of American scientists or engineers who don't support the official explanation, my point is mainly about consensus, any "lone nut" scientist can come out with a theory and get it reviewed by their buddies, the reality is what the majority of experts in a field agree on, not what one "potentially brilliant" scientist has theorized about Star Wars weaponry, have there been any peer reviews of Judy Wood's theories?
Not only that, most people who criticize her are doing so without reading her research first hand, and use incomplete, inaccurate or plain false assertions that others have used when assessing her work. One idiot bouncing off another.
Ok, is Judy Wood 1-1000, a "scientist" with a pretty unique theory about what happened?
Are there many other scientists in her field who agree with her or do the overwhelming majority support the official explanation?
The general consensus seems to be that, those who understand her work support it, and those with enough professional experience about them (Engineers for 9/11 truth and the like) don't support the official theory.
Good example, take Engineers for 9/11 truth, as a percentage of all American Engineers how many support the theories of Judy Wood compared to how many support the official explanation?
It's maybe around >%5 of American scientists or engineers who don't support the official explanation, my point is mainly about consensus, any "lone nut" scientist can come out with a theory and get it reviewed by their buddies, the reality is what the majority of experts in a field agree on, not what one "potentially brilliant" scientist has theorized about Star Wars weaponry, have there been any peer reviews of Judy Wood's theories?
Your wider consensus point is mute. The 2000+ Engineers for 9/11 truth are willingly putting their careers on the line for this belief. We have no idea how many engineers support the official version, but what we do know is that there will be a great deal more not willing to risk everything who privately disagree with the 9/11 commission.
This is much the same for people who support Judy Wood. Far more do privately but will not publicly because of how it sounds. So also, the amount of people who are willing to give her the time of day is likely far high than publicly stated and currently unknown.
there are roughly 450,000 licensed professional engineers in the United States. The data aren’t precise, and the estimate varies a little from year to year, but this is in the ballpark. The American Society for Engineering Education indicates that about 74,000 baccalaureate degrees in engineering and computer science were issued in the United States in 2009.
I don't reallly think many of them put their careers on the line either, many have actually taken up their 9/11 truth business full time right?
Why do you need to believe this when in all likelihood it's not true:
the amount of people who are willing to give her the time of day is likely far high than publicly stated and currently unknown.
what we do know is that there will be a great deal more not willing to risk everything who privately disagree with the 9/11 commission.
"we know there is a chance that some people might find these ideas credible" therefore these ideas are credible",
:rolleyes:
how do you know the majority of Engineers in the USA don't actually think 9/11 truth is just a bunch of anti-government cranks apologising for Islam?
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07 Feb 2014 12:56 #46
I had sent an email to Andrew Johnson about this matter, I got the email address from his webpage checktheevidence checktheevidence.com/cms/
Because I know he works with Dr Wood at times and helped to construct her website.
He does reply to emails, I wanted to ask him about the 'hurricane' I think it's 'Hurricane Erin' as I did not quite understand the proposal of it's effects.
AJ replied, firstly he stated that it's something to do with the electrical field effects from Hurricane Erin were utilised in the interference system - she makes the analogy that John Hutchison uses a Tesla coil or Van Der Graff generator to provide the electrical component of his field interference, he then referred me to me her book.
I'm still not quite sure exactly how the energy from the hurricane is used to produce a WTC attack?
It's like some kind of tool/coil/generator, all quite vague though, I don't know if this vagueness is to permit it to be explained to us dumbasses of because Dr Wood does not know how/what it is herself, for me that's speculation, Idk if she's presenting the hurricane effect as what occurred or what might of occurred, I have seen her plots/maps of hurricane Erin's path, and it does seem to change direction at the right place and time, do we have anything else to show 'Erin' was used as a source of energy?
Right I've read the chapters again...
There are no concrete conclusions there, but what she's saying is that there are a couple of strange occurrences and possible coincidences.
The earth's magnetic field is constantly documented and what happened was that there were dramatic fluctuations registered at as near as she can tell the precise moment that EACH tower came down. (The stats are only recorded every 60 seconds so she can't tie it down to the second). Areas of high EMF were emitted in pulses as each tower fell (this would tie in with local electrical disturbances in all manner of equipment not documented in her book).
The fields created in the Hutchinson Effect (the same or similar fields that were created as the buildings fell) are done so using a Tesla Coil. What she is saying is that Hurricane Erin is basically a giant Tesla Coil, and at the precise moments that the earth's magnetic field was affected and the towers fell, Hurricane Erin dramatically changed course. It seems that the fields generated by the hurricane and those over WTC that effected the earth's magnetic field had interacted (or appeared to) like 2 magnets repelling each other, and its possible that what happened over NYC was in effect a giant anti-cyclone, that also blew away the cold weather front it seemed to generate.
She is basically saying is it mere coincidence that there was a giant tesla coil off the coast, that is interacting with NYC at the same time (probably to the seconds)? Or, is it somehow possible that the magnetic field of the hurricane was somehow harvested to produce voltage to power the DEW?
She goes on to discuss how experiments documented by (I forget now, it was someone big like the weather service) prove that they have been able to kill huricanes by introducing certain microwave frequencies in to the eye of the storm, and so it should be no stretch of the imagination that they've been tinkering with how to harvest energy from them.
So, there is no concrete evidence to support harvested energy from the hurricane, but it is theoretically possible and would produce the same documented hutchingson effect. On the other hand, it may not have played a part, but having its on interference field was repelled by the one over NYC like a magnet.
there are roughly 450,000 licensed professional engineers in the United States. The data aren’t precise, and the estimate varies a little from year to year, but this is in the ballpark. The American Society for Engineering Education indicates that about 74,000 baccalaureate degrees in engineering and computer science were issued in the United States in 2009.
I don't reallly think many of them put their careers on the line either, many have actually taken up their 9/11 truth business full time right?
Why do you need to believe this when in all likelihood it's not true:
the amount of people who are willing to give her the time of day is likely far high than publicly stated and currently unknown.
what we do know is that there will be a great deal more not willing to risk everything who privately disagree with the 9/11 commission.
"we know there is a chance that some people might find these ideas credible" therefore these ideas are credible",
:rolleyes:
how do you know the majority of Engineers in the USA don't actually think 9/11 truth is just a bunch of anti-government cranks apologising for Islam?
What sort of backward ass logic was that? Do you realise that ALL her work is backed up scientific evidence, and the chance is she knows a lot more about what she's talking about than you do?
There is absolutely no point in pulling up figures of how many engineers there are. How many of them have taken the time to examine ALL the evidence IN DETAIL and PUBLICLY and TRUTHFULLY declare their findings/beliefs? We're never going to know.
If you don't think that many lost their careers and research grants you should do a little digging, because many did.
I have said I'm on the fence, but am willing to take aboard ALL evidence and see where it leads, not discount something because it may be cutting edge and little understood.
I noticed that someone clicked on a link to my website. I also noticed someone has posted the Greg Jenkins video from 7 years ago - without knowing the details that:
1) It was recorded at midnight
2) Dr Judy was not doing a presentation at that event - how did Jenkins know she would be there?
3) The interview was edited and posted without permission.
4) Greg Jenkins brought lights and at least 2 cameras and used a room without permission.
These details are mentioned in my article in my free ebook tinyurl.com/911ftb
I also recently discovered Greg Jenkins cv. He had a secret clearance in 1991.
I made a video analysing some of the techniques Jenkins tried to use - and showing that he actually agreed the buildings mostly disappeared.
See if you can find any writings or postings about 911 from Jenkins in the last 7 years. See if you can find a court case he started about 911. Check the evidence - find the truth.
I think it's always best to use your real name on forums. Then people know who they're talking to - otherwise, you're just helping to provide cover for trolls. Forums are largely a waste of time for discussing 9/11 now anyway.
I noticed that someone clicked on a link to my website. I also noticed someone has posted the Greg Jenkins video from 7 years ago - without knowing the details that:
1) It was recorded at midnight
2) Dr Judy was not doing a presentation at that event - how did Jenkins know she would be there?
3) The interview was edited and posted without permission.
4) Greg Jenkins brought lights and at least 2 cameras and used a room without permission.
These details are mentioned in my article in my free ebook tinyurl.com/911ftb
I also recently discovered Greg Jenkins cv. He had a secret clearance in 1991.
I made a video analysing some of the techniques Jenkins tried to use - and showing that he actually agreed the buildings mostly disappeared.
See if you can find any writings or postings about 911 from Jenkins in the last 7 years. See if you can find a court case he started about 911. Check the evidence - find the truth.
I think it's always best to use your real name on forums. Then people know who they're talking to - otherwise, you're just helping to provide cover for trolls. Forums are largely a waste of time for discussing 9/11 now anyway.
Well, hello there Andrew.
You don't need to tell me the chap obviously had an agenda, was indeed playing games, was indeed trying to trip Dr Wood up, and doesn't really know what he's talking about
Could you please confirm my understanding of the Hutchinson Effect and Erin please? EDIT: Its post #46
I had sent an email to Andrew Johnson about this matter, I got the email address from his webpage checktheevidence checktheevidence.com/cms/
Because I know he works with Dr Wood at times and helped to construct her website.
He does reply to emails, I wanted to ask him about the 'hurricane' I think it's 'Hurricane Erin' as I did not quite understand the proposal of it's effects.
AJ replied, firstly he stated that it's something to do with the electrical field effects from Hurricane Erin were utilised in the interference system - she makes the analogy that John Hutchison uses a Tesla coil or Van Der Graff generator to provide the electrical component of his field interference, he then referred me to me her book.
I'm still not quite sure exactly how the energy from the hurricane is used to produce a WTC attack?
It's like some kind of tool/coil/generator, all quite vague though, I don't know if this vagueness is to permit it to be explained to us dumbasses of because Dr Wood does not know how/what it is herself, for me that's speculation, Idk if she's presenting the hurricane effect as what occurred or what might of occurred, I have seen her plots/maps of hurricane Erin's path, and it does seem to change direction at the right place and time, do we have anything else to show 'Erin' was used as a source of energy?
Right I've read the chapters again...
There are no concrete conclusions there, but what she's saying is that there are a couple of strange occurrences and possible coincidences.
The earth's magnetic field is constantly documented and what happened was that there were dramatic fluctuations registered at as near as she can tell the precise moment that EACH tower came down. (The stats are only recorded every 60 seconds so she can't tie it down to the second). Areas of high EMF were emitted in pulses as each tower fell (this would tie in with local electrical disturbances in all manner of equipment not documented in her book).
The fields created in the Hutchinson Effect (the same or similar fields that were created as the buildings fell) are done so using a Tesla Coil. What she is saying is that Hurricane Erin is basically a giant Tesla Coil, and at the precise moments that the earth's magnetic field was affected and the towers fell, Hurricane Erin dramatically changed course. It seems that the fields generated by the hurricane and those over WTC that effected the earth's magnetic field had interacted (or appeared to) like 2 magnets repelling each other, and its possible that what happened over NYC was in effect a giant anti-cyclone, that also blew away the cold weather front it seemed to generate.
She is basically saying is it mere coincidence that there was a giant tesla coil off the coast, that is interacting with NYC at the same time (probably to the seconds)? Or, is it somehow possible that the magnetic field of the hurricane was somehow harvested to produce voltage to power the DEW?
She goes on to discuss how experiments documented by (I forget now, it was someone big like the weather service) prove that they have been able to kill huricanes by introducing certain microwave frequencies in to the eye of the storm, and so it should be no stretch of the imagination that they've been tinkering with how to harvest energy from them.
So, there is no concrete evidence to support harvested energy from the hurricane, but it is theoretically possible and would produce the same documented hutchingson effect. On the other hand, it may not have played a part, but having its on interference field was repelled by the one over NYC like a magnet.
Thanks, so from that I get the instinctive feeling that the hurricanes alteration of course was due to whatever happened at the WTC site, and that the hurricane was not the cause, I can make an assumption that a field effect due to an energy being used to destroy WTC building's would cause the hurricane to change behaviour somewhat.
The thing that is awkward here is the fact that At 9:59 am, the South Tower 'collapsed' 56 minutes after being struck, The North Tower collapsed at 10:28 am, after burning for 102 minutes.
To me that means that the hurricane is unlikely to be responsible, what we need to do is to find out if the first and second 'collapse' both coincided with alterations to Erin's path. From looking at this webpage on Dr Wood's website there does not seem to a particular time when the hurricane changed direction, so we don't know if any relevant change in the hurricanes course occurred between or particularly near to 9:59 & 10:28 when the towers 'collapsed'?
I wonder if aircraft normally continue to fly despite the presence of a hurricane, because why would an airport not be aware of a hurricane looming that would likely cause issues for flights taking off and preparing to land, when we look at this report 'they' seemto be assuming that Hurricane Erin is going to hit the Florida are not NY.
What would have made the hurricane change course two days before 9/11 and then again on 9/11.
I wonder if an effect of some type can be manufactured to make the air thinner/warmer/cooler in certain areas, thus the hurricane will go in that direction, a bit like how a gold ball will travel down a slope rather than up a slope where the ball is dropped from above.
is it possible that the hurricane was being controlled by field effects, if so could it be that it was being brought towards NY as a cover story should plan A fail, the hurricane could have provided a mess and covered it all up, when the plan was a success the hurricane was 'ushered' away?
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
Blue_Tackler (who are you?) - A question for you. Why would the hurricane travel in a straight line towards NYC for 4 days, if it was the events in NYC which caused it to turn on the 12th?
As far as I can tell, the hurricane was steered - and this is my wording not Dr Wood's so don't try and repost this accusing Dr Wood of saying it. Listen to her presentations or read her book or website to see what she said
SilvaRizla (gosh I wish people used real names). My understanding is as follows:
1) John Hutchison created his effects by mixing together different types and frequencies of energy - particularly RF (radio waves) and an electrostatic field. The latter could be created using a Tesla coil or a van der graaff generator.
2) From witness accounts of jumpers, it appeared they were being heated by energy hitting them from somewhere.
3) The data shows that the electrostatic field associated with the Hurricane reached as far as NYC.
4) We have the earth's magnetic field already present.
We therefore have evidence of 3 types of energy in the vicinity of the WTC being mixed together. We also have evidence that the earth's magnetic field was changing throughout the events of 911 - showing a specific "minimum" at 8:46
Hi Andrew, I am just an innocent poster, I will send you my name via a personal message, I'm reluctant as I have in past received harassment.
''In reference to your question ''Blue_Tackler (who are you?) - A question for you. Why would the hurricane travel in a straight line towards NYC for 4 days, if it was the events in NYC which caused it to turn on the 12th?''
I really have no logical answer. I can only guess that it may have changed direction on the 7th8th of September due to being 'ushered' that way by a type of unknown weather manipulation, or by a freak of nature, however the change in direction on the 11th/12th of September could be related somehow to an energy field from the WTC destruction that affected the hurricane. this change in direction seems to be more severe than that of the change 4 days earlier.
So it seems to me that either the whole thing is natural, or it was steered, then it reacted to another force, or the hurricane was responsible for the destructive force on the WTC site. We don't know do we?
It's just that do we know that the change in direction was around 10:00/10:30 the time that the towers were destroyed?
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
I had sent an email to Andrew Johnson about this matter, I got the email address from his webpage checktheevidence checktheevidence.com/cms/
Because I know he works with Dr Wood at times and helped to construct her website.
He does reply to emails, I wanted to ask him about the 'hurricane' I think it's 'Hurricane Erin' as I did not quite understand the proposal of it's effects.
AJ replied, firstly he stated that it's something to do with the electrical field effects from Hurricane Erin were utilised in the interference system - she makes the analogy that John Hutchison uses a Tesla coil or Van Der Graff generator to provide the electrical component of his field interference, he then referred me to me her book.
I'm still not quite sure exactly how the energy from the hurricane is used to produce a WTC attack?
It's like some kind of tool/coil/generator, all quite vague though, I don't know if this vagueness is to permit it to be explained to us dumbasses of because Dr Wood does not know how/what it is herself, for me that's speculation, Idk if she's presenting the hurricane effect as what occurred or what might of occurred, I have seen her plots/maps of hurricane Erin's path, and it does seem to change direction at the right place and time, do we have anything else to show 'Erin' was used as a source of energy?
Right I've read the chapters again...
There are no concrete conclusions there, but what she's saying is that there are a couple of strange occurrences and possible coincidences.
The earth's magnetic field is constantly documented and what happened was that there were dramatic fluctuations registered at as near as she can tell the precise moment that EACH tower came down. (The stats are only recorded every 60 seconds so she can't tie it down to the second). Areas of high EMF were emitted in pulses as each tower fell (this would tie in with local electrical disturbances in all manner of equipment not documented in her book).
The fields created in the Hutchinson Effect (the same or similar fields that were created as the buildings fell) are done so using a Tesla Coil. What she is saying is that Hurricane Erin is basically a giant Tesla Coil, and at the precise moments that the earth's magnetic field was affected and the towers fell, Hurricane Erin dramatically changed course. It seems that the fields generated by the hurricane and those over WTC that effected the earth's magnetic field had interacted (or appeared to) like 2 magnets repelling each other, and its possible that what happened over NYC was in effect a giant anti-cyclone, that also blew away the cold weather front it seemed to generate.
She is basically saying is it mere coincidence that there was a giant tesla coil off the coast, that is interacting with NYC at the same time (probably to the seconds)? Or, is it somehow possible that the magnetic field of the hurricane was somehow harvested to produce voltage to power the DEW?
She goes on to discuss how experiments documented by (I forget now, it was someone big like the weather service) prove that they have been able to kill huricanes by introducing certain microwave frequencies in to the eye of the storm, and so it should be no stretch of the imagination that they've been tinkering with how to harvest energy from them.
So, there is no concrete evidence to support harvested energy from the hurricane, but it is theoretically possible and would produce the same documented hutchingson effect. On the other hand, it may not have played a part, but having its on interference field was repelled by the one over NYC like a magnet.
Thanks, so from that I get the instinctive feeling that the hurricanes alteration of course was due to whatever happened at the WTC site, and that the hurricane was not the cause, I can make an assumption that a field effect due to an energy being used to destroy WTC building's would cause the hurricane to change behaviour somewhat.
The thing that is awkward here is the fact that At 9:59 am, the South Tower 'collapsed' 56 minutes after being struck, The North Tower collapsed at 10:28 am, after burning for 102 minutes.
To me that means that the hurricane is unlikely to be responsible, what we need to do is to find out if the first and second 'collapse' both coincided with alterations to Erin's path. From looking at this webpage on Dr Wood's website there does not seem to a particular time when the hurricane changed direction, so we don't know if any relevant change in the hurricanes course occurred between or particularly near to 9:59 & 10:28 when the towers 'collapsed'?
I wonder if aircraft normally continue to fly despite the presence of a hurricane, because why would an airport not be aware of a hurricane looming that would likely cause issues for flights taking off and preparing to land, when we look at this report 'they' seemto be assuming that Hurricane Erin is going to hit the Florida are not NY.
What would have made the hurricane change course two days before 9/11 and then again on 9/11.
I wonder if an effect of some type can be manufactured to make the air thinner/warmer/cooler in certain areas, thus the hurricane will go in that direction, a bit like how a gold ball well travel down a slope rather than up a slope where the ball is dropped from above.
is it possible that the hurricane was being controlled by field effects, if so could it be that it was being brought towards NY as a cover story should plan A fail, the hurricane could have provided a mess and covered it all up, when the plan was a success the hurricane was 'ushered' away?
The hurricane manipulation as a plan B is I think what she's hinting at, and the times of the diversion do tie in to the time periods of field manipulation. Chapter 20 The Tesla-Hurricane-Magnometer Correlation. Its not bang on down to the minute, takes about 20 minutes all in, but then you'd expected it to be gradually steered rather than sharp left and right turns as they pump up the voltage bit by bit and whatnot. Slow course correction type stuff.
SilvaRizla
Do we know that on the 11th September that hurricane Erin changed direction at about 10:00/10:30 the times that the towers were destroyed, did it change direction in relation to each tower destruction, if not then we can assume that the hurricane could have been being steered but not reacting directly to the destruction of the towers, either as a cause or a symptom?
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
The hurricane data is on Dr Wood's website in raw form and discussed in a bit more detail in her book. The exact time it turned is probably open to debate, but the path, to me is pretty clear. You can also look at the extent of the storm system as it moved.
I think there is a fair bit of other evidence of weather manipulation happening - due to observed cloud anomalies and so on - as well as RADAR traces etc - but I am sure you can find those yourself if you look for them.
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07 Feb 2014 16:24 #58
Welcome to our forum Andrew it is a small community, most of us are fair posters, I hope you stick around, I think some of the threads on Solar System / Space will interest you, and any comments would be I know appreciated.
It's not all that usual for 9/11 points to be discussed these days, quite a few posters have moved along here from David Ickes forum because they are tired of the censorship there, or have been disqualified from there for questioning the censorship. So there has been an influx of new posters including myself, thus certain topics resurfacing because some of us are still unable to let it go.
I personally agree with a lot of Dr Wood's conclusions (for the want of a better term). I'm sure the matter will soon quieten down and resurface again, there are some good cases put forward by various individuals, sometimes it's difficult to see the truth amongst so many proposals of the truth.
As I say I do hope you stick around.
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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07 Feb 2014 17:29 #59
SilvaRizla
Do we know that on the 11th September that hurricane Erin changed direction at about 10:00/10:30 the times that the towers were destroyed, did it change direction in relation to each tower destruction, if not then we can assume that the hurricane could have been being steered but not reacting directly to the destruction of the towers, either as a cause or a symptom?
The hurricane changed course (per the book Ive not look at Dr Wood's site on this one, it may be more detailed I dunno) at 8:46, this was the same time electromagnetic disturbance started (roughly). Its difficult to say anything happened at specific times after that because the hurricane just remained on a diverted course so there's no data for it really. The only data to support specific times is magnometer data, this spikes here coincide with each building "falling".
I reckon they knew at 8:46 things we're going to plan so fired up the death ray or whatever to prepare for the events of the next hour and turn the hurricane away
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