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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 23 May 2013 22:55 #21

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Personally i think the dragon is an allegory (if that's the correct word.)

I believe it stood for the pre Christian Roman Empire.
I want to know, is the Dragon a metaphor or is it an allegory because this sounds like there's some truth right here?

Does it matter if there are dragon myths in places like China? is that evidence the pre christian roman empire had a far reach?
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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 23 May 2013 23:04 #22

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Oh c'mon

What do you think metaphors are?


They were not born out of literature!

Other way around.
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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 23 May 2013 23:09 #23

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So is a metaphor the same as an allegory or what?

And what is a similey?

sorry just this is getting quite deep this thread, wonder whether saint george is known in other countries?
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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 23 May 2013 23:18 #24

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Yo Mikey where'd you go man, literature ain't never bin my strong point ya feel me?
Sorry for all the questions yall, this topic is damn interesting though, I thought it was going to be some Reptillian theories from Icke or Tsarion, but maybe these reptillians are a metaphor, simily or an allegory from literature and refer to an actual empire?
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon


The word dragon entered the English language in the early 13th century from Old French dragon, which in turn comes from Latin draconem (nominative draco) meaning "huge serpent, dragon," from the Greek word δράκων, drakon (genitive drakontos, δράκοντος) "serpent, giant seafish". The Greek and Latin term referred to any great serpent, not necessarily mythological, and this usage was also current in English up to the 18th century.

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Saint George and the dragon [edit]

Main article: Saint George and the Dragon
Eastern Orthodox depictions of Saint George slaying a dragon often include the image of the young maiden who looks on from a distance. The standard iconographic interpretation of the image icon is that the dragon represents both Satan (Rev. 12:9) and the Roman Empire. The young maiden is the wife of Diocletian, Alexandra. Thus, the image as interpreted through the language of Byzantine iconography, is an image of the martyrdom of the saint.[citation needed]
The episode of St. George and the Dragon was a legend[28] brought back with the Crusaders and retold with the courtly appurtenances belonging to the genre of Romance. The earliest known depiction of the legend is from early eleventh-century Cappadocia (in the iconography of the Eastern Orthodox Church, George had been depicted as a soldier since at least the seventh century); the earliest known surviving narrative text is an eleventh-century Georgian text.


White George on the coat of arms of Georgia.
In the fully developed Western version, which developed as part of the Golden Legend, a dragon or crocodile makes its nest at the spring that provides water for the city of "Silene" (perhaps modern Cyrene in Libya or the city of Lydda in the Holy Land, depending on the source). Consequently, the citizens have to dislodge the dragon from its nest for a time, to collect water. To do so, each day they offer the dragon at first a sheep, and if no sheep can be found, then a maiden must go instead of the sheep. The victim is chosen by drawing lots. One day, this happens to be the princess. The monarch begs for her life to be spared, but to no avail. She is offered to the dragon, but there appears Saint George on his travels. He faces the dragon, protects himself with the sign of the Cross,[29] slays the dragon, and rescues the princess. The citizens abandon their ancestral paganism and convert to Christianity.
The dragon motif was first combined with the standardised Passio Georgii in Vincent of Beauvais' encyclopaedic Speculum Historiale and then in Jacobus de Voragine's "Golden Legend", which guaranteed its popularity in the later Middle Ages as a literary and pictorial subject.
The parallels with Perseus and Andromeda are inescapable. In the allegorical reading, the dragon embodies a suppressed pagan cult.[30] The story has other roots that predate Christianity. Examples such as Sabazios, the sky father, who was usually depicted riding on horseback, and Zeus's defeat of Typhon the Titan in Greek mythology, along with examples from Germanic and Vedic traditions, have led a number of historians, such as Loomis, to suggest that George is a Christianized version of older deities in Indo-European culture.
In the medieval romances, the lance with which St George slew the dragon was called Ascalon, named after the city of Ashkelon in the Levant.[31]
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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 24 May 2013 00:03 #26

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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 24 May 2013 00:11 #27

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Yo Chandra, this is some deep shit:
The parallels with Perseus and Andromeda are inescapable. In the allegorical reading, the dragon embodies a suppressed pagan cult.[30] The story has other roots that predate Christianity. Examples such as Sabazios, the sky father, who was usually depicted riding on horseback, and Zeus's defeat of Typhon the Titan in Greek mythology, along with examples from Germanic and Vedic traditions, have led a number of historians, such as Loomis, to suggest that George is a Christianized version of older deities in Indo-European culture.
What about Babylon and Marduk's fight against Tiamat isn't Tiamat shown as a dragon and Marduk a bird of the air?

Deep shitt yo:
Tiamat is a chaos monster, a primordial goddess of the ocean, mating with Abzû (the god of fresh water) to produce younger gods. It is suggested that there are two parts to the Tiamat mythos, the first in which Tiamat is 'creatrix', through a "Sacred marriage" between salt and fresh water, peacefully creating the cosmos through successive generations. In the second "Chaoskampf" Tiamat is considered the monstrous embodiment of primordial chaos.[1] Although there are no early precedents for it, some sources identify her with images of a sea serpent or dragon.[2] In the Enûma Elish, the Babylonian epic of creation, she gives birth to the first generation of deities; she later makes war upon them and is killed by the storm-god Marduk. The heavens and the earth are formed from her divided body.
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What did St. George Kill, dragons don't exist 24 May 2013 00:18 #28

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Comparitive mythology is interesting, yeah. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_mythology

Seems like many have a common denominator.

You guys seen thunderbolts of the gods btw?



Its long but you can cut to 52 minutes for a part about serpent/dragon for one.
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Awh shit guys this thread is making me warm and gooey inside, I gotta close it down for the night..
This always makes me want to start some antrhopology or comparative mythology course, anyone seen any good free online courses?
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Of course dragons are real! They're not around anymore cause weirdos like this St. George fucker hunted and killed their breed till they could no longer tolerate it.

So,like me....they cleverly hid themselves in a pocket dimension to escape all the freaked out,armed Christians.

Come on people. Learn your history.

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Dagon was originally an East Semitic Mesopotamian (Akkadian, Assyrian, Babylonian) fertility god who evolved into a major Northwest Semitic god, reportedly of grain (as symbol of fertility) and fish and/or fishing (as symbol of multiplying). He was worshipped by the early Amorites and by the inhabitants of the cities of Ebla (modern Tell Mardikh, Syria) and Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra, Syria) (which was an ancient city near the Mediterranean containing a large variety of ancient writings and pre-Judeo-Christian shrines). He was also a major member, or perhaps head, of the pantheon of the Biblical Philistines...In Ugaritic, the root dgn also means grain: in Hebrew dāgān, Samaritan dīgan, is an archaic word for grain...
Pterodactylus ( from the Greek πτεροδάκτυλος, pterodaktulos, meaning "winged finger" ) is a genus of pterosaurs, whose members are popularly known as pterodactyls. It was the first to be named and identified as a flying reptile. Its fossil remains have been found primarily in the Solnhofen limestone of Bavaria, Germany...

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Doc_Gonzo wrote:
Of course dragons are real! They're not around anymore cause weirdos like this St. George fucker hunted and killed their breed till they could no longer tolerate it.

So,like me....they cleverly hid themselves in a pocket dimension to escape all the freaked out,armed Christians.

Come on people. Learn your history.

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I agree with you Dragons are found in ALL cultures,
What we still don't know is if they were real at a certain time and became extinct.
Today they are ONLY a Hollywood fantasy.

Here is something:

malct32.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-dragons-exist.html
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Much larger egg sites have been found nearby, in northeastern Spain near Tremp, where hundreds of thousands of eggs (of both sauropods and theropods) have been found. Other huge dinosaur eggs sites have been found in Argentina and China...There is also an extensive list of sites where dinosaur eggs and babies have been found...

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It was a crocodile the same as malta :give:
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