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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 00:53 #21

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To be fair here we could ask the same of Muslims, especially the rich ones and what they have done to Mecca etc
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Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:09 #22

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I'm still there but after Lauren Almighty got banned, I discovered here! I've been having trouble with militant new agers who seem to love ripping into christianity, and mods who think defending Christianity in the RELIGION section and discussing its tenets is equivalent to "preaching" and promoting it, to the which I was ticketed.

The forum has always been a bit funny, but its gone to the dogs really.
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Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:18 #23

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thethinkingrebel wrote:
I'm still there but after Lauren Almighty got banned, I discovered here! I've been having trouble with militant new agers who seem to love ripping into christianity, and mods who think defending Christianity in the RELIGION section and discussing its tenets is equivalent to "preaching" and promoting it, to the which I was ticketed.

The forum has always been a bit funny, but its gone to the dogs really.
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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:18 #24

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Im actually considered hardcore anti-religion myself but I approve of some of the stuff the latest pope is doing and I would certainly approve of a lot of Jesus' supposed teachings.
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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:19 #25

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To be fair here we could ask the same of Muslims, especially the rich ones and what they have done to Mecca etc

If we take away the "not calling God Jehovah/Yahweh", and ask the question about Christians being ignorant and disrespectful to God. Lets look at the ways some professing Christians are. It comes down to basic ignorance of the faith, Basically God calls people of all shapes and sizes, rich and poor. But through a process called sanctification, people are essentially on an upward slope of righteousness instigated by God himself via the Holy Spirit.. You start out at one point, and gradually ascend to another. Saved from beginning to end.

So lets say one guy hears the gospel and becomes saved, he's a drug addict, hates everyone around him, is quite suicidal. By the end of his life, he 'should' have a deep love of humanity within him, respect and reverence for God, and a boldness of faith, and a willingness to be killed for his faith, and a deep relationship with Christ. Obviously thats in a perfect world where theres zero obstacles in the way.

I don't personally know if Islam has a similar system, based on how they are saved (you never know until the day you stand before him whether or not you're saved, and its essentially based on Allah's whim, and works) I doubt it, but I think if I was muslim, I wouldn't really bother, it just doesn't seem like a system of faith that has anything good to offer, I mean Christianity says "God's righteousness saves you through faith in Christ, once you are saved you cannot lose your salvation", Islam says "Allah Akbhar, blow yourself up and kill infidels and you are assured a place in paradise, other than that you're on your own".

Scary frankly.
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Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:20 #26

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thethinkingrebel wrote:
I'm still there but after Lauren Almighty got banned, I discovered here! I've been having trouble with militant new agers who seem to love ripping into christianity, and mods who think defending Christianity in the RELIGION section and discussing its tenets is equivalent to "preaching" and promoting it, to the which I was ticketed.

The forum has always been a bit funny, but its gone to the dogs really.
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Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:21 #27

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Mikey mikey is your clique commander.

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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:22 #28

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Im actually considered hardcore anti-religion myself but I approve of some of the stuff the latest pope is doing and I would certainly approve of a lot of Jesus' supposed teachings.

Not a fan of any pope personally. I don't view catholicism as christianity at all.

Other than that, as a person he does seem to be doing some good things, helping the poor etc. Needs an eye kept on him though, as theres some pure evil coming out of the vatican, and anyone in THAT kind of position is pro illuminati.
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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:30 #29

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Needs an eye kept on him though,

Just one eye?

:O

I jest .
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Re:Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:31 #30

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thethinkingrebel wrote:
andyh wrote:
To be fair here we could ask the same of Muslims, especially the rich ones and what they have done to Mecca etc



If we take away the "not calling God Jehovah/Yahweh", and ask the question about Christians being ignorant and disrespectful to God. Lets look at the ways some professing Christians are. It comes down to basic ignorance of the faith, Basically God calls people of all shapes and sizes, rich and poor. But through a process called sanctification, people are essentially on an upward slope of righteousness instigated by God himself via the Holy Spirit.. You start out at one point, and gradually ascend to another. Saved from beginning to end.



So lets say one guy hears the gospel and becomes saved, he's a drug addict, hates everyone around him, is quite suicidal. By the end of his life, he 'should' have a deep love of humanity within him, respect and reverence for God, and a boldness of faith, and a willingness to be killed for his faith, and a deep relationship with Christ. Obviously thats in a perfect world where theres zero obstacles in the way.



I don't personally know if Islam has a similar system, based on how they are saved (you never know until the day you stand before him whether or not you're saved, and its essentially based on Allah's whim, and works) I doubt it, but I think if I was muslim, I wouldn't really bother, it just doesn't seem like a system of faith that has anything good to offer, I mean Christianity says "God's righteousness saves you through faith in Christ, once you are saved you cannot lose your salvation", Islam says "Allah Akbhar, blow yourself up and kill infidels and you are assured a place in paradise, other than that you're on your own".



Scary frankly.


That's man made church doctrine which has nothing to do with Jesus or God, hence the problem I have with religion specifically as in this case it is at odds with its own documented messiah.
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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:32 #31

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thethinkingrebel wrote:
Islam says "Allah Akbhar, blow yourself up and kill infidels and you are assured a place in paradise, other than that you're on your own".

Not really...

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Mikey mikey is your clique commander.



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Where is he lately? :think:


Hes just gone back to Italy so give him a day or two :)
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Re:Why are most Christians ignorant and disrespectful to their god 11 Jan 2014 01:38 #33

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Hes just gone back to Italy so give him a day or two :)


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