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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 03 Sep 2013 20:51 #621

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Space Bandit wrote:
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Not a 'Co-star'?

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No.
Obviously I can't say..... without getting arrested potentially.

Edit: apparently I'm not allowed to imply anything either.


Which side of the case is that gagging order coming from, his or the victims?
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 03 Sep 2013 21:05 #622

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psketti wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Not a 'Co-star'?

:umm:

No.
Obviously I can't say..... without getting arrested potentially.

Edit: apparently I'm not allowed to imply anything either.


Which side of the case is that gagging order coming from, his or the victims?

It's just the law.
You can't name victims in rape cases, unless they waive their right to anonymity....(afaik)... and in this case, it's a child anyway. Or was when the attacks took place. Somebody has already been arrested for it apparently.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 03 Sep 2013 22:26 #623

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The alleged victim had told Manchester Crown Court that the 48-year-old actor always abused her in the early hours of the morning.

But Le Vell's lawyer today accused her of inventing times when he allegedly abused her to make her story 'sound more convincing'.

She told detective the first rape was at around 1.36am and the second and third rapes were at around 2.20am.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409662...-told-sex-abuse.html
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 03 Sep 2013 23:21 #624

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I started reading an article yesterday about the Le Vell case, and I honestly couldn't finish it.
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma,
a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 08:17 #625

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Who would he have access to in the small hours of the morning over an 8 year period?
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 14:26 #626

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Gilly wrote:
Who would he have access to in the small hours of the morning over an 8 year period?

:zip:
Think about it.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 17:56 #627

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Space Bandit wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Who would he have access to in the small hours of the morning over an 8 year period?

:zip:
Think about it.

Oh, I was - that's why I said it.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 18:14 #628

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Gilly wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Who would he have access to in the small hours of the morning over an 8 year period?

:zip:
Think about it.

Oh, I was - that's why I said it.

I thought so but couldn't make out whether it was a genuine question! Often lost communication is on a forum.
Pretty grim eh?
:(
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 18:28 #629

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I just hope that if it's true, it can be proven in court. This bastard's still breathing and not in his dotage.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 04 Sep 2013 18:48 #630

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Gilly wrote:
I just hope that if it's true, it can be proven in court. This bastard's still breathing and not in his dotage.

I really hope it's not true, and the girl is just making it up, for whatever reason.
I think that's highly unlikely though. The cps must have pretty damning evidence for it to get this far.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 07 Sep 2013 21:13 #631

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Gilly wrote:
Corrie's Kevin Webster 'raped girl holding teddy'
Monday 2 September 2013
Coronation Street star Michael Le Vell raped a young girl as she clutched a teddy bear, a court has been told.


www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/co...ing-teddy.1378125778

So much for the speculation I'd heard that his situation was just about going out with mature looking teenage girls.

:( :mad: :(

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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 17:12 #632

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Coronation Street's Michael Le Vell cleared of child rape
10 Sep 2013 15:18

The 48-year-old was today found not guilty of a string of sexual offences against a young girl

Coronation Street star Michael Le Vell has been cleared of raping a child.

Mr Le Vell, 48, from Hale in Cheshire, had denied five counts of rape, three of indecent assault, two counts of sexual activity with a child, and two of causing a child to engage in sexual activity.

One one occasion he was accused of raping the girl as she clutched her teddy bear.

Today a jury found him not guilty of all charges.

The verdict was delivered on day seven of the Corrie star's trial at Manchester Crown Court as the jurors finished their second day of deliberations.

Cleared Coronation Street star Michael Le Vell made a short statement before being driven away from court.



Smiling with relief and embraced by supporters, some of whom cheered and applauded as he emerged from the building, the star said: "It's a big weight off everyone's shoulders. I'd just like to thank my fantastic legal team, my family for the support, my security and I'd like to thank ITV for their continued support throughout this traumatic time for all of us. Thank you all for being patient - I might go and have a drink now."

Michael Le Vell cleared


The actor, who vehemently denied the sex charges he faced, said he hoped to return to Coronation Street soon, but 'might have a holiday' first.

Members of the public gathered opposite Manchester Crown Court in the moments before Mr Le Vell emerged from the building, preceded by two police officers.

The actor's exit from the building was snapped by photographers as he was surrounded by reporters.

Real-life courtroom drama outstrips any TV script

Michael Le Vell's seven days in court provided an insight into the actor's 'troubled' life

Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell hugged by his sister Sue after he was cleared of child sex offences


He had told his trial that in September 2011 he was told by his accuser’s mother that: ‘she’s made an allegation against you - she’s accusing you of raping her’.

He told the jurors: "I just stood there and said, tell me you’re f****** joking. She said ‘no’. I said ‘tell me you're f****** joking. She said ‘no’. My legs, they just seriously started to wobble. I was stunned and shocked."

He was asked by his barrister, Alisdair Williamson, defending, if he had committed any of the crimes of which he was accused.

“No, I promise you, never in a million years would I do anything like that, never", he told the jury.

Asked how he felt about the allegations, he replied: "How do I feel? I’m devastated, lost. I don’t understand where it’s come from. It’s left such a big hole in my life because of these allegations. I’m like a lost soul and I still want to get to the bottom of why this has happened to me, why I’m being accused of things, because I know none of it happened and I have been walking around for the last two years just not knowing.”
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 18:13 #633

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No proof - her word against his.
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 18:17 #634

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I know where he'll be tonight!

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I hope it wasn't true & the accusations were made in some form of spiteful revenge.
I guess we'll never know.....
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 18:19 #635

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I thought it had come to light in the case that he was an alcoholic? How can he do his job, be alcoholic, and still be drinking?
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 18:45 #636

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Being alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean you are permanently sozzled Gilly.
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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I imagine having a few pints will be very high up on his menu tonight!
Don't you think I have problems Sal?
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Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 10 Sep 2013 18:53 #638

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knobmeup wrote:
Being alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean you are permanently sozzled Gilly.

No, but it means that you're supposed to stay off it because you can't control your binges, doesn't it? Or is that wrong?

@ SB - Coronation Street ref? Oi will understand it. :D
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Gilly wrote:
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Being alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean you are permanently sozzled Gilly.

No, but it means that you're supposed to stay off it because you can't control your binges, doesn't it? Or is that wrong?

@ SB - Coronation Street ref? Oi will understand it. :D

I think there are varying degrees of alcoholism.... I think his has been blown out of proportion to sully his character in court.
But according to my mate who is a recovering alky, when you're a full blown alky all you think about is drink, and you can't stop, or even get pissed. I don't think Kev is anywhere near that level.

Yes it was a Corrie reference.... Kevin's line he's come out with for years!
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Space Bandit wrote:
I think there are varying degrees of alcoholism


^This.
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