I state this as fact, like "the sky is blue" or "the sun sets in the west". Of course people are free to say "the sky is orange" or "the sun sets in the south" but there is no point in debating them; they are lying, trolling, mentally ill or otherwise best ignored.

Given this NEWAIJ fact, and the lack of widespread acceptance of NEWAIJ by the mainstream media, and hence by many of the populace, the question is, what is to be done?

I have a few ideas. One is to field candidates under a NEWAIJ banner in the forthcoming general election in the UK (where I find myself now). You may have ideas. Please share them here.

NB If people come here trying to debate the NEWAIJ concept please ignore them. There are scores of other threads for that or they can start a new one. Please use this thread to discuss ideas as to what to do to make a difference given NEWAIJ as a truth.

Thank you.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1060990157

You could at least try and be original on here.

andyh wrote:
I made a conscious decision to post the same thing there and here. Some here no longer go there, some there don't know about here, and if you try to tell people there to come here you get banned and lose a lot of potential audience.

Can we, please, try to spend our time trying to work out what we are going to do about the matter at hand? I appreciate that there is a great deal of emotion floating around because of the 'forum wars' situation but my priorities are aimed squarely at trying to avoid another million dead brown people based on lies.

If I have to cut-and-paste the same thing on DIF and here to reach everyone I used to be able to reach just posting on DIF then so be it. I am sorry if this upsets you for some reason. No idea why it would, but please, if you think it's worth discussing, can you start a new thread for that and keep this one free for practical ideas for paradigm shift 'out there', rather than anything related to internecine DIF/SZ issues? Please?

Thanks

You want to field candidates for some new kind of party in the UK?
Why don't you just run a tv ad?

Simon, first for actually wanting to do something rather than just chat on tinterwebz.

Second I don't see the formation of a party as anything worthy. Maybe an anti-party that campaigned to get people NOT to vote would be a better plan.

Third, I think NEWAIJ may be poor targeting on British soil. Brits will most likely react better to something closer to home.....I won't go in to why.
With that in mind, there is a mass of stuff that is still in the fore of the British mind that could be useful. The expenses scandal, croney capitalism, austerity, bankers bonuses etc etc. These are things that DO have the British attention and DO cause ire with the status quo. Perhaps an anti-party that campaigns for a no vote using things like that in the manifesto?

I attempted to report the Foreign Secretary for a massive crime this week, the plod refused to lodge the complaint of course but the more that do that sort of thing, the better.

9/11 is a massive issue.An inside job that changed the course of history according to a blueprint that existed previously (Project for a New American Century, for example).

However, in the United Kingdom, surely 7/7 is the more relevant issue? Why focus on a false flag in the Untied States when there was a clear false flag in the United Kingdom?

sounds more like it should be a matter of criminal investigation than a podium for politics?
fighting people with infinite money to throw at problems, on their home turf, is very difficult. you have to fight on a different type of terrain they arent used to.
people try to make conspiracy/911 cool and popular and reach out. but its not really something you can just take and feel good about (which is what people want) its a lot of constant effort. it seems we are all just happy to get told what to do and what happened.
example, the news always has a spin to it, but regardless it tells events that happened. theres some truth, and some manipulation. and we are saturated by it.
these alternative news things cant compete with fox or cnn. its as polarized as political parties.

right right.. i got no idea what to do. no help lol

my suggestion, if you are serious about changing the world, worm your way in and make it rot from the inside instead of being a gnat flying at a windscreen.

simonrobert999 wrote:
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To be honest, I don't think you do yourself or "the cause" any favours by taking such a black-and-white stance.

On the one hand, you accept that many of the populace don't believe NEWAIJ. On the other, you state that anyone who doesn't believe NEWAIJ is "lying, trolling, mentally ill or otherwise best ignored". I'm not sure that this approach is going to win many of these people over, you know.

OK, I know you blame people's non-acceptance on the media and I presume these are the main liars, trolls etc that you are referring to here. But even so, a stance of "I'm right and everyone else with a view on this topic is a liar, troll, shill etc" does not strike me as a recipe for success in what you're trying to do.

Personally, I think a better focus would be demanding that Blair, Bush et al are tried in an international court for war crimes. The evidence is clear, tangible and not liable to infinite squabbles between planers and non-planers etc.

simonrobert, are you getting bukkaked by invisible men in your avatard?

im sorry that was uncalled for.
i just mean you look like you're holding someone and they are giving you a good invisible jizzing in your eye. whats going on is all im asking for.
look my avatar, it looks like im picking up hookers.
dreamweaver has simpsons incest.
its not so bad man.

batou wrote:
You will kindly all notice that I had NOTHING to do with this.

You are learning fast, young grasshopper.

People can say 9/11 was an inside job but why not focus on what came from that? I mean there are parts of this world where they have a 9/11 size event on a regular basis at the hands of western armed forces. I think we should indeed educate people to the dishonesty in the world and the events we do not accept official stories about but as somebody said that is not a political platform alone. Knowing Kennedy was assassinated by a conspiracy does not mean you should be the new president after all.

simonrobert999 wrote:
It would be difficult for it to make any impact imo, most vociferous opponents would be from within the "Troof movement" no planers, scalar weapon theories, those interested in your personal family tree and any relation to the Zionist state of Israel in your immediate contacts

On another level, i think 9/11 truth is quite irrelevant, say it wasn't an inside job, something we need to address in the West is how Imperialist foreign policy makes "terrorist attacks" a certainty more than a possibility, so an anti-imperialist platform would attack the root cause of 9/11 type events more imo.