This is pretty sinister - and maybe more so in view of the renewed vigour recently applied to the campaigning against American Citizens' right to bear arms.

Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?

By Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)

The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S. No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

All my life I’ve handled firearms. When a young boy growing up on my father’s farm in Pennsylvania Dad’s first rule of firearms training was, “Never point a gun at someone, in fun or otherwise, unless you intend to shoot them. If you shoot someone, shoot to kill.” I’ve never forgotten his admonition. It stayed with me through my Boy Scout training, when I enlisted in the army as a Private to fight in the Korea
War, during my days as a Ranger and Paratrooper and throughout my thirty-four year military career.

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

I fear that Congress won’t take these ammunition purchases seriously until they are all led from Capitol Hill in handcuffs. Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? Shouldn’t Congress hold hearings on why the Administration is stockpiling this ammunition all across the nation? How will it be used; what are the Administration’s plans?

Obama is a deadly serious, persistent man. Once he focuses on an object, he pursues it to the end. What is his focus here? All of these rounds of ammunition can only be used to kill American citizens, though there is enough ammunition being ordered to kill, in addition to every American citizen, also every Iranian, Syrian or Mexican. There is simply too much of it. And this much ammunition can’t be just for training, there aren’t that many weapons and “shooters” in the U.S. to fire it. Perhaps it is to be used to arm illegal immigrants?

We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest.

We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

Were I the JCS, and if I wasn’t already fully briefed on this matter, I’d stop the purchase of hollow point bullets, ask the secretary of Defense why all this ammunition is being purchased and spread around the country? If I got answers like the ones Congress got during the investigation of Operation Fast and Furious – I’d start tracking all ammunition deliveries nationwide to find out what organizations and units are using them, for what purpose and, if it is not constitutional, prepare to counteract whatever it is that they are doing.

This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.

Jerry Curry is a decorated combat veteran, Army Aviator, Paratrooper, and Ranger, who for nearly forty years has served his country both in the military and as a Presidential political appointee.

dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/who-does-the-...shoot/#ixzz24GtVjQQX

I remember finding an article a few years ago that disclosed vast amounts of money having been spent by some supposedly impoverished states, on weaponry designed for containing civil unrest, so these arsenals must be fairly huge by now (assuming all the facts and figures in both articles are accurate).

Who does the American government plan to drop 30,000-pound bombs on?

rt.com/news/massive-ordnance-penetrator-bomb-bunker-buster-144/

Wow. This is all highly disturbing. Anybody got an underground bunker with room for one more?

RealAmerican wrote:
The answer to this question is Iran.

The answer to Gilly's question is "domestic targets".

It is prohibited by international law to use hollow point, dum dum munitions in international conflicts.

It is not prohibited by international law to use these kinds of munitions on animals or on "criminals" in your own country. That is for each country to determine for itself.

By the way, hollow point munitions were apparently a British invention in 1890, in the city of Dum Dum, India to ensure maximum damage to the target. The new bullets had proven to be too clinical in comparison to the old lead musket balls that used to splat on impact. They were banned a few years later after complaints from the Germans!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet#History

"With the advent of smokeless powder, velocities increased, and bullets got smaller, faster, and lighter. These new bullets (especially in rifles) needed to be jacketed to handle the conditions of firing. The new full metal jacket bullets tended to penetrate straight through a target and produce little damage. This led to the development of the soft point bullet and later jacketed hollow-point bullets at the British arsenal in Dum Dum, near Calcutta around 1890. Designs included the .303" Mk III, IV & V and the .455" Mk III "Manstopper" cartridges. Although such bullet designs were quickly outlawed for use in warfare (in 1898, the Germans complained they breached the Laws of War), "

^Bullseye^

That's what Curry's saying. They're banned for international use, so can only have been purchased with the intention using against American citizens. That can't be good.

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it sounds like a lot of ammo, but 175k / 52 weeks = 3300 rnds every week for a year. if they had 200 guns, its only 17 bullets a week to shoot at targets probably.
if you want some ordinance to worry about, theres thousands of nukes sitting around. nerve gasses, diseases, tanks, choppers. theres hundreds of things that can just roll up and unleash wholesale hell.
fat guy with emphysema working for ssa is bottom of my list.

This is hard to figure out or speculate on,it makes no sense what caliper are the bullets,and where are the guns?

And from my experience the people working at the social security office look in worse shape than the people coming in needing services

they're .357 sig
guns are proabably glock 31, 32. majority of fed/leo use glocks now

Thanks Batou - I think.

The truth of what you say speaks for itself - but - nukes / lab produced diseases etc, vicious as they are, are not so easy to target selected victims, leaving the locality and the users unscathed. Bullets are a different matter.

I make a point of not laying awake at night worrying about such things, but in my book, the possible intention behind that purchase warrants being on a 'worry list'.

Why are hollow points used in target practice? I get the accuracy stuff but would it not be better practice to use the bullets you intend to use in a real life situation?

EDIT: Just read a wiki page which references lead exposure when using standard ammo

they use hollow points in real life lol

Gilly wrote:
I'm not worried about it at all...