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MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 07:59 #1

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Yesterday MP Tom Watson stood up in the house and claimed to have seen an intelligence dossier on a paedophile ring linked to number 10 Downing street including a former Prime Ministers aide.

Cameron gave a weak and flustered response and mumbled something about looking into Hansard.
Hansard is a copy of former debates in the house of commons, it would have no intelligence on this matter.



article - The Independent
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 08:45 #2

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If that doesnt get buried it has potentially explosive possibilities! :O
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 09:37 #3

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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 10:08 #4

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Scanning round t'internet, there are a lot of snippets of speculation regarding the government's dark, recent history of paedophilia involvement & cover-ups, and I'll admit I hadn't known of a lot of it previously.

This, from 2010, is an interesting, if chilling, example...

mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/...own-is-a-paedophile/

For every single child who's been hurt and abused, the authorities need to leave no stone unturned, and hunt down every single bastard who's played a part.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 12:11 #5

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Peter Righton was convicted in 1992. When were the crimes actually committed though...which would tell you which PM this was under.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 12:40 #6

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Mr Shiny wrote:
Peter Righton was convicted in 1992. When were the crimes actually committed though...which would tell you which PM this was under.

More 'liberalism' huh?
lol :p
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 12:48 #7

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Gilly wrote:
Scanning round t'internet, there are a lot of snippets of speculation regarding the government's dark, recent history of paedophilia involvement & cover-ups, and I'll admit I hadn't known of a lot of it previously.

This, from 2010, is an interesting, if chilling, example...

mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/...own-is-a-paedophile/

For every single child who's been hurt and abused, the authorities need to leave no stone unturned, and hunt down every single bastard who's played a part.

I'd heard the claims before that Brown is a paedophile but I hadn't realised that it was backed up by lots of evidence and Blair covered it up :O
truly shocking, I hope Watson keeps on this and doesn't get scared off.

potentially this could cause a shitstorm
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 12:49 #8

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Peter Righton was convicted in 1992. When were the crimes actually committed though...which would tell you which PM this was under.

More 'liberalism' huh?
lol :p

Go troll someone else you prick.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 12:56 #9

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I hope Watson keeps on this and doesn't get scared off.

... or have an unexpected heart attack.

He should also stay away from private jets for the forseeable future too.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:10 #10

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This comment cencerns me a bit-

" 'The evidence used to convict paedophile Peter Righton, if it still exists..."

I thought all evidence was kept on file. Does anyone know if that's the case?
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:28 #11

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No, but it wouldn't be a huge surprise if the evidence had gone missing or been disposed of.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:31 #12

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If it's right that the evidence is meant to be retained, then it sounds as though Watson's masquerading as a hero, to curry public favour, while actually giving Cameron, & any guilty parties a ready made get out clause, by even suggesting the possibility that it's no longer available.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:36 #13

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psketti wrote:

... or have an unexpected heart attack.

He should also stay away from private jets for the forseeable future too.

aye..true nuff
Gilly wrote:
This comment cencerns me a bit-

" 'The evidence used to convict paedophile Peter Righton, if it still exists..."

I thought all evidence was kept on file. Does anyone know if that's the case?

it's supposed to be but in cases like this the evidence tends to get 'lost'
according to Bill Maloney that's what happened in the Haut de la Garenne case
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:41 #14

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Gilly wrote:
If it's right that the evidence is meant to be retained, then it sounds as though Watson's masquerading as a hero, to curry public favour, while actually giving Cameron, & any guilty parties a ready made get out clause, by even suggesting the possibility that it's no longer available.

I too considered this /\

Sadly.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:44 #15

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'Losing' vitally important items, such as evidence, is not acceptable. People's heads should be on the block for that alone. It's somebody's responsibility to safeguard those things. Why can they get away with acting like accountability means nothing. There should surely be limited access, and a system of recording who's had access & when, & who checked items out & back in again. It's all just weak excuses every step of the way.

If you're in a far less responsible position, such as running a shop, you'd be fucking accountable for 'losing' stock, or even failing to provide relevant paperwork to auditors, FFS! :mad:
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:47 #16

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'Us' and 'them' ... as per usual gilly.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 13:48 #17

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Gilly wrote:
'Losing' vitally important items, such as evidence, is not acceptable. People's heads should be on the block for that alone. It's somebody's responsibility to safeguard those things. Why can they get away with acting like accountability means nothing. There should surely be limited access, and a system of recording who's had access & when, & who checked items out & back in again. It's all just weak excuses every step of the way.

If you're in a far less responsible position, such as running a shop, you'd be fucking accountable for 'losing' stock, or even failing to provide relevant paperwork to auditors, FFS! :mad:

There's the problem, there's no real accountability for senior police officers or politicians
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 15:28 #18

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Peter Righton was convicted in 1992. When were the crimes actually committed though...which would tell you which PM this was under.

More 'liberalism' huh?
lol :p

Go troll someone else you prick.

Aww hurty wurty ? :D

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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 15:33 #19

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I think we all know that this will never be seriously investigated. It took 25 years for some of the truth to be conceded regarding Hillsborough, and that had much smaller consequences for the government than this. And there were tens of thousands of witnesses! It's far too easy to hush this up and keep it quiet, and the establishment never investigates itself. They still stand up in America and say "Lee Harvey Oswald definitely shot JFK, and he was definitely working alone". That was fifty years ago.
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Re: MP Tom Watson claims to have intelligence of paedophile ring in Downing st. 25 Oct 2012 17:04 #20

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The politician implicated in an alleged child sex ring at 10 Downing Street was Sir Peter Morrison, one of Margaret Thatcher's closest advisers, IBTimes UK can reveal.

Morrison was the mystery "senior aide" MP Tom Watson alluded to at Prime Minister's Questions (PMQs). Watson's allegation of a paedophile ring close to Downing Street stunned the House of Commons.


Morrison was a Conservative politician who acted as Thatcher's parliamentary private secretary while she was prime minister. He also masterminded her failed bid to hold on to the leadership in 1990.

Morrison left office in 1992 and died in 1995.

The sexual tastes of the prime minister's trusted adviser were an open secret in some quarters but were concealed by a police cover-up and threats of libel by Morrison himself, according to a former editor of the Sunday Mirror, Peter Connew.

Simon Heffer wrote in the Daily Telegraph in 2009: "At least one member of Mrs Thatcher's first cabinet was homosexual. Her last parliamentary private secretary, Sir Peter Morrison, was a constant trial to the whips, who were afraid that his late-night cruises around and skirmishes in Sussex Gardens would come to the attention of the press."

Connew told IBTimes UK that he saw first-hand how efforts to name and shame Morrison were hampered.

Morrison, the MP for Chester, was arrested more than once for pestering young boys in public toilets for sex, said Connew. When police officers tried to charge him, the cover-up began.

"Such was the hush-up that nobody could get hold of the log of the arrest," Connew told IBTimes UK.

"As soon as he was brought in for importuning young boys in public toilets, the seniors would come down. That was the reason the officers leaked the details: they were outraged that the seniors had ticked them off for arresting him.

"If they had nicked a lorry driver, he would have been up before the judge in no time."

Print and I'll sue you

When reporters acting on tip-offs doorstepped Morrison, he came out fighting, added Connew.

"When they doorstepped him, he said 'print and I'll sue you.' This is something that Lord Leveson might want to consider."

Allegations against Morrison first surfaced in the press in 1998. Investigative journalist Nick Davies reported how Chris House, crime editor at the Mirror, had been tipped off by police about Morrison's activities - but was gagged by legal fears.

Not being able to expose the politician close to No 10 irked House, said Connew. "He categorised it as the most frustrating scoop he could never write. He was more involved in it than me.

"I had no idea Tom Watson was going to set off that hand grenade in parliament," he added.

Morrison's activities were thrown under the spotlight by Labour MP Watson at PMQs. The West Bromwich East MP alluded to a political figure who was cited in evidence at the 1992 trial of paedophile Peter Righton, real name Paul Pelham.

Watson said in parliament: "The evidence file used to convict paedophile Peter Righton, if it still exists, contains clear intelligence of a paedophile ring.

"One of its members boasts of his links to a senior aide of a former prime minister who could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad.

"The leads were not followed up but if the file still exists I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it and investigate clear links of a powerful paedophile network linked to parliament and No 10."

Righton was a high-profile public expert on the UK childcare system. He was convicted of importing and possessing child pornography in 1992.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/397824/201210...-ring-sire-peter.htm

So that's Saville and this Peter Morrison closely linked to Margaret Thatcher..
Righton, a former consultant to the National Children's Bureau and lecturer at the National Institute for Social Work in London, admitted two illegal importation charges and one charge of possessing obscene material. He was fined £900....In the aftermath of Mr Watson’s remarks, media outlets speculated that he was referring to the late former Prime Minister, Sir Edward Heath - who was the subject of unsubstantiated rumours about sex with under-age boys - or to Sir Peter Morrison, a former Downing Street aide who died in 1995.

In her new autobiography, serialised in a newspaper at the weekend, the former Conservative minister Edwina Currie claimed that Sir Peter had sex with under-age boys during the 1980s but had been protected by “a culture of sniggering” from colleagues. At the time the boys were aged 16 and the age of consent was 21. Police were apparently aware of Sir Peter’s activities but declined to act.

However, The Independent understands that Mr Watson’s comments were not aimed at either Sir Edward or Sir Peter, but at a living person associated with Margaret Thatcher’s administration.

They are thought to involve the activities of the Paedophile Information Exchange, a pro-paedophile group in existence between 1974 and 1984, which believed there should be no age of consent..."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/was-...s-probe-8224702.html


More details on the Peadophile Information Exchange
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
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