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Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 12:48 #1

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www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-ne...9.html#ixzz2BuvmcWps
British troops could be deployed to intervene in Syria in the event of a major humanitarian crisis, the head of the armed forces says.

General Sir David Richards, the Chief of the Defence Staff, said contingency plans were being drawn up in case the onset of winter saw a worsening of conditions on the ground.

He indicated that any intervention would be limited and would need the support of people inside Syria in the areas where assistance was being provided.

Nevertheless such a move would be seen as a potential step towards a full-scale military intervention bringing British forces directly into conflict with the regime of president Bashar Assad.

"It would be a huge effort. We would be very cautious about it," he told BBC1's The Andrew Marr Show.

"There is no ultimately military reason why one shouldn't and I know that all these options are quite rightly being examined. but we are some way off."

He said he expected the humanitarian situation to deteriorate over the winter which could lead to calls to intervene "in a limited way".

"Obviously we develop contingency plans to look at all these things. It is my job to make sure that these options are continually brushed over to make sure that we can deliver them and they are credible," he said.

"The main thing for now that we are all focusing on is to contain the crisis so that it doesn't spill over into countries like Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey.

"That's our primary focus but that would also accommodate a humanitarian crisis because we could help deal with that through that primary mechanism. It is certainly something we have got to look at.
Would this be like the 'humanitarian intervention' in Kosovo, which was a total disaster and that declassified documents have shown that parliament knowingly lied about? Let's hope it works out that well again.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 12:56 #2

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I read this article on it this morning...

Royal Air Force Set for Syria No-Fly Zone with SAS and SBS Troops on the Ground
November 10, 2012

Source: Daily Star

RAF Top Guns could soon be patrolling the skies over Syria under a new Cameron-Obama plan. The Prime Minister is preparing to use the RAF to enforce no-fly zones across President Assad’s trouble-torn country in a bid to stop mass slaughter.At this week’s National Security Council meeting in Downing Street Syria will be number one on the agenda.

According to Whitehall sources, British special forces are helping to train rebel assassination squads to target President Assad and his warlords.

Troops from the SAS, SBS and Paras from the Special Reconnaisance Regiment are in Syria helping show insurgents how to use new weapons and explosives.

Mr Cameron and newly re-elected US President Barack Obama are also ­considering military action and officially arming rebels.

The first stage of the plan involves a no-fly zone that will be patrolled by British, US and French forces. Safe havens will be set up in ­Syria, Turkey and Jordan.

A Whitehall aide said: “Cameron and Obama cannot allow Assad to bomb civilians.“We can’t go in and do it but we can get someone there to have a go.

“A lot of the Free Syrian Army are ex-soldiers, they know how to shoot but need more training from our Special Forces, especially in key signals and communications equipment.”


More on the link...

www.blacklistednews.com/Royal_Air_Force_...508/0/38/38/Y/M.html
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:08 #3

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It's just a matter of time, Gilly, unfortunately. This was planned a long time ago, at least a decade ago. Syria was mentioned as being part of the 'axis of evil' in May, 2002, so it's been on the cards since then at the very least. I don't like to be needlessly pessimistic, I hope some day people stop having the wool pulled over their eyes and put their guns down.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:31 #4

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Even though you know statements like that are coming. Even though you know it's just a matter of time until we officially start killing Syrians it just wears your soul down. :(

I'm going back to bed.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:41 #5

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I've been aware since 2005 that Syria was a place where war chaos and hell was intended. It was just a matter of time
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:48 #6

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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:54 #7

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We (amusing we are all 'anti war') just need a handful of decent journalist to break ranks and start telling it like it really is (on TV) and that could start the optimistic ball rolling. I'm not holding my breath on that one, but ya never know eh?
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 13:59 #8

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dont you think assad needs a little push to leave this world or am i being lied to?
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:04 #9

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I don't approve of any leader who has photos of themselves posted everywhere (unless they've got their nips out!) but we do seem to have been lied to, set up and it's all done and dusted, right after the second world war. I've seen documentaries of that whole region before the western world got a hold of it, and it's very much like the slaughter of the native Indians.. the list goes on and on. I donno, perhaps I'm being naive or am old fashioned when it comes to living in harmony with our fellow humans.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:14 #10

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I beleive your right and this one has been a very long time in the planing, and there nothing old fashioned about living in harmony among the majority, but try persuading the 10% :(
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:19 #11

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MrsGood wrote:
I beleive your right and this one has been a very long time in the planing, and there nothing old fashioned about living in harmony among the majority, but try persuading the 10% :(

The 90% could use force as opposed to persuasion. But we they don't.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:21 #12

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psketti wrote:
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I beleive your right and this one has been a very long time in the planing, and there nothing old fashioned about living in harmony among the majority, but try persuading the 10% :(

The 90% could use force as opposed to persuasion. But we they don't.

I know and doesn't that just make you wanna :barfonu:
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:21 #13

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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 14:41 #14

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When I said this goes back to the second world war I think it's goes back much much further. Wasn't there rumored to be a time in ancient history when we (or some kind of mark 1 human version) lived in harmony with each other and the planet and then something big kicked off? Then this version of human came along and we were all separated by language and continents. Was it for a reason or have I gone off on one :scotty:
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 15:01 #15

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Yep i read somewhere about this going back to the basicly beginning, and that Syria not Jerusalem was actually the core of the all, and all the bad will try to destroy it.
My version not the books, but a sort of summary :(
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 15:04 #16

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Drude wrote:
We (amusing we are all 'anti war') just need a handful of decent journalist to break ranks and start telling it like it really is (on TV) and that could start the optimistic ball rolling. I'm not holding my breath on that one, but ya never know eh?

I agree... but it would take more than a handful to break ranks. I didn't do TV or anything live, I did writing, tried to break the rules and write it how I saw it, even had backing from a lawyer and still, it got edited and changed and censored... it would take an editor and head of a news agency for anything to get through, even if their entire staff decided to start telling it like it is.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 15:21 #17

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Yes it will take hundreds, your right. And then there are the military who also need to put down their weapons, but it all seems such a long way off.
What happened to the Occupy Movement.. Who is in control of them and why have they gone so quite.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 20:45 #18

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Thing is the road to the West's 'intervention' has been reported. Everything from the SNC's Bilderberg connections, through the funding and starting of 'opposition' TV channels, right up to the arms going through Turkey is in the public arena and has been all along. The 'mission' to Syria has been clear since before this millenium....people just don't seem to give enough of a collective shit.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 20:57 #19

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RT's 'hyper' view of this.
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Last Edit: 11 Nov 2012 20:59 by Drude.
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Re: Wow...who saw this one coming? 11 Nov 2012 22:57 #20

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