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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 12:50 #1

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This is interesting, so many police etcetera involved in this example of 9/11 truth.

Anti-politician, pro-police, anti-bbc, a shady bunch imo...
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 13:12 #2

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So many police etc?
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 15:09 #3

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andyh wrote:
So many police etc?
Call it a hunch...
e2a, I think the reason I suspected it was the former INtelligence analyst, Rooke and others stating how everybody needs to stop paying their TV license and telling the police lies about WTC7 falliing at freefall :emb:

NIST:
In the draft WTC 7 report (released Aug. 21, 2008; available at wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR_1A_for_public_comment.pdf), NIST stated that the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions. During the public comment period on the draft report, NIST was asked to confirm this time difference and define the reasons for it in greater detail.

To further clarify the descent of the north face, NIST recorded the downward displacement of a point near the center of the roofline from first movement until the north face was no longer visible in the video. Numerical analyses were conducted to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the roofline point from the time-dependent displacement data. The instant at which vertical motion of the roofline first occurred was determined by tracking the numerical value of the brightness of a pixel (a single element in the video image) at the roofline. This pixel became brighter as the roofline began to descend because the color of the pixel started to change from that of the building façade to the lighter color of the sky.

The approach taken by NIST is summarized in Section 3.6 of the final summary report, NCSTAR 1A (released Nov. 20, 2008; available at wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf) and detailed in Section 12.5.3 of NIST NCSTAR 1-9 (available at wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201-9%20Vol%202.pdf).

The analyses of the video (both the estimation of the instant the roofline began to descend and the calculated velocity and acceleration of a point on the roofline) revealed three distinct stages characterizing the 5.4 seconds of collapse:

Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity


This analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 15:18 #4

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Its true few people bother to count the collapse of the little 'penthouse' structure at the top of the building (elevator shaft machinery room?)

What is its relevance though apart from to somehow distract from the speed the rest of the building actually fell at?

For that matter how is even stage2 possible?
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 15:33 #5

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I'm sure your questions would be better directed towards somebody who gives a fuck about any of it ;)

I honestly couldn't care less, false consciousness to divide.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 15:52 #6

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Mike wrote:
I'm sure your questions would be better directed towards somebody who gives a fuck about any of it ;)

I honestly couldn't care less, false consciousness to divide.

Ofc you care or you wouldn't have made the OP :D
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 16:05 #7

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andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
I'm sure your questions would be better directed towards somebody who gives a fuck about any of it ;)

I honestly couldn't care less, false consciousness to divide.

Ofc you care or you wouldn't have made the OP :D

I care about the people here and what you think, but not 9/11 troof ;)
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 16:19 #8

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Mike wrote:
andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
I'm sure your questions would be better directed towards somebody who gives a fuck about any of it ;)

I honestly couldn't care less, false consciousness to divide.

Ofc you care or you wouldn't have made the OP :D

I care about the people here and what you think, but not 9/11 troof ;)

The opposite cognitive position can be applied.
Eg 911 was exactly as the govt says it was and no investigation is necessary.
This is just as much 'troof' as any other opinion including the concept that no planes hit the towers at all (I don't believe this myself but it may aswell be just as valid)

WHY?

Because the evidence was removed. It remains the single most crazy day in human history and it has a both a mainstream conspiracy theory and a fringe conspiracy theory and neither can be proven nor does anyone want to.

Regardless we did discuss this guy in a separate thread earlier and I did myself state that this guy would get nowhere with his court visit and I'm quite correct in saying what I did ( I usually am :p )

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/todays-news/9134...f-9-11-evidence.html

I remain convinced this serves more of the opposite purpose than intended.
Eg the guy at court helped the govt show how useless and puny you all are.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 17:42 #9

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To compare no plane theory with the official story as equally valid explanations is pretty weird logic imo.

There seems to be no end of theory, that at least claims to be based on evidence, much of it is, much of it is based on elaborated evidence etc, so the evidence wasn't "completely removed".

I kind of agree with your last point though, to me it's clearer than that, it's not as pointlessly offensive, military strategists in a class war are never "pointlessly offensive", the overall message was fuel to the emerging European "populist" Right, i think like my enemy, I don't expect my opening statement is false ;)

All this lawful rebellion, FMOTL, anti-common purpose stuff is reactionary nonsense in my view.

Maybe you should trademark that term "opposite purpose" before Gerrish unveils it as his new political party ;)
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 18:52 #10

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Mike wrote:
To compare no plane theory with the official story as equally valid explanations is pretty weird logic imo.

There seems to be no end of theory, that at least claims to be based on evidence, much of it is, much of it is based on elaborated evidence etc, so the evidence wasn't "completely removed".
The physical evidence was indeed removed.
The electronic evidence was also likewise removed.
All this lawful rebellion, FMOTL, anti-common purpose stuff is reactionary nonsense in my view.
FMOTL stuff? Is this guy connected to that?
Maybe you should trademark that term "opposite purpose" before Gerrish unveils it as his new political party ;)

lol!
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 22:23 #11

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the people behind this stunt are in with the 'elite'...they are 911 disinfo shills pushing thermite..if i'd been down there one or two would have got my real 911 truth banner pushed in their faces...i hate people like this...need a good slapping
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 22:27 #12

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i mean lets face it ian henshall is getting paid thousands to steer the 911 truth away from directed energy...how does he live with himself? how can people sell their souls like this...must be really sick
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 23:01 #13

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It's a bizarre way of avoiding paying the licence fee & a bit of a publicity stunt imo.

I quite like the death ray explanation.... I just don't believe it happened.
In fact, pretty much everything I've heard about 9/11 on both sides of the conspiracy coin has been bollox!
I gave up believing it actually happened.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 27 Feb 2013 23:21 #14

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Space Bandit wrote:
I gave up believing it actually happened.

Now there's a conspiracy!

:P
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 28 Feb 2013 01:17 #15

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oioioi wrote:
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I gave up believing it actually happened.

Now there's a conspiracy!

:P

Some of the conspiracy sites I used to read about it would have you believe not far off that... such as letsroll forum.
no planes... and all the people that died were fake victims (vicsims).
They'd generally be the most horrible people to debate with as well. Either believe their waffle, or you're a Jewshill.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 28 Feb 2013 02:24 #16

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3 buildings, all impacted differently, yet all freefall collapsed?
:nea:
The welder here needs a might of convincing that aircraft fuel burning in the atmosphere melted those H beams.
:nea:
PNAC's world vision anticipated it would be a difficult sell to the US public, absent "a Pearl Harbour type event".
Months after they take office there is a "Pearl Harbour type event".
:nea:
Precisely when this all happened the air defence for the area is off on an exercise leaving the area vulnerable.
:nea:
I'm not even going near fucking death rays and devils.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 28 Feb 2013 02:30 #17

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Back to the OP video.

How much does he draw his presentation style from Icke?
Particularly the vocal tone/rhythm and the eyes avoiding contact.

It's quite spooky actually.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 28 Feb 2013 03:02 #18

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feather wrote:
Back to the OP video.

How much does he draw his presentation style from Icke?
Particularly the vocal tone/rhythm and the eyes avoiding contact.

It's quite spooky actually.

I was going to say actually...from the intro on the vid I did wonder if they weren't related tbh.
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9/11 Truth bbc License fee 28 Feb 2013 03:10 #19

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Ab Origine wrote:
feather wrote:
Back to the OP video.

How much does he draw his presentation style from Icke?
Particularly the vocal tone/rhythm and the eyes avoiding contact.

It's quite spooky actually.

I was going to say actually...from the intro on the vid I did wonder if they weren't related tbh.
Weird ehh?
Put a black shirt on him, Peroxide his head and bung a can of Tennents rocketfuel in his hand and you couldn't tell them apart.
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I'd love to see an influx of people not paying their TV licences on the same basis as this.
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