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Tories to scrap human rights 10 Mar 2013 17:44 #1

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"National interest">human rights...which bell does that ring...? :think:
Theresa May: Tories to consider leaving European Convention on Human Rights
Theresa May Theresa May called for greater private sector involvement in delivering public services
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The Conservatives would consider leaving the European Convention on Human Rights if they won the 2015 election, the home secretary has said.

Theresa May told an event organised by the ConservativeHome site the party would also scrap the Human Rights Act.

She said it restricted the UK's ability "to act in the national interest".

A private poll by ex-party treasurer Lord Ashcroft, meanwhile, suggested the party would lose 93 marginal seats to Labour if the election was held now.

The BBC understands Mrs May was putting forward ideas for the next Conservative manifesto, and such a move was not current government policy.

The home secretary said she thought David Cameron would lead the party into the next election, and BBC political correspondent Ross Hawkins said there was no sign the speech heralded a leadership challenge.
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image of Ross Hawkins Ross Hawkins Political correspondent

It sounded like a party leader's conference speech.

Perhaps that was no accident.

The home secretary sketched out her beliefs, and positioned herself as a scourge of society's elites.

She drafted an economic strategy: a bigger role for private firms in public services and much more involvement by the state in industry.

And she threw in potential future policies to please - or tease - the grassroots, including a possible withdrawal from the European Convention on Human Rights.

Is she about to topple the prime minister?

Unlikely. David Cameron was shown the speech in advance.

She was also careful to mix loyal messages with her own manifesto.

Is she setting out her stall ahead of potential rivals for the moment Cameron is party leader no longer?

You bet.

It will be widely considered as an attempt by Mrs May to position herself for any future contest, our correspondent added.

Mrs May told the gathering she was sceptical whether the convention limited human rights abuses in other countries and suggested it restricted Britain's ability to act in its own interests.

"When Strasbourg constantly moves the goalposts and prevents the deportation of dangerous men like Abu Qatada, we have to ask ourselves, to what end are we signatories to the convention?" she said.

"Are we really limiting human rights abuses in other countries? I'm sceptical."

She said that "by 2015, we'll need a plan for dealing with the European Court of Human Rights".

"And yes, I want to be clear that all options - including leaving the convention altogether - should be on the table."

She also called for greater use of the private sector in delivering public services and more state involvement in industrial planning.

The shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper accused Mrs May of a "blatant political pitch" to right-wing Tories, disillusioned with the prime minister's leadership.

"It is clear that she is more concerned about appealing to... Tory back benchers and setting out an alternative to David Cameron and George Osborne than she is about a coherent policy for Government.

"She says in her opening paragraph, 'Today's event is all about a choice of leadership,' - and its clear that today is another attempt to set out her stall".

Meanwhile Lord Ashcroft, who owns Conservative Home, published the findings of his poll during a speech earlier at the conference in London.

More than 19,000 people were questioned in 213 British constituencies in January and February 2013. The poll suggested Labour would gain 109 seats in total, returning a total of 367 MPs to parliament, a majority of 84.

It said there would be an average swing of 8% to Labour in the Conservative's most vulnerable seats.
Lord Ashcroft Lord Ashcroft's poll predicts Labour could hold an 84-seat majority in the next Parliament

The Liberal Democrats also stand to lose seats according to Lord Ashcroft's research. The party would lose 17 constituencies to their coalition colleagues and 13 to Labour.
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The former Tory Party treasurer, who has donated millions of pounds to the Conservatives, used the speech to dismiss earlier newspaper claims he has withdrawn support for the party.

The peer said he will fund polling research rather than continue to provide large financial donations.

He added: "I don't want to see a Labour majority of 4, let alone 84. But I hope this puts the challenge into some sort of perspective.

"We have a long way to go to hold onto the seats we gained last time, let alone pick up many more.

"Things are slightly less grim than the headline polls suggest, and we have everything to play for," Lord Ashcroft insisted.

But Conservative Party chairman Grant Shapps told activists the poll was simply "a snapshot" of what may happen.

He revealed he was knocking on doors on Saturday morning, saying: "I wasn't out asking people for their votes, I was asking what we could do for them."

He added: "That's the most important lesson we can learn. We need to get out there and get to know people.

"We can spend the next two years working out strategies and trying to sub-divide votes - it will get us nowhere."

The Conservative Home conference was organised to consider the strategies needed to help the party win broader support in 2015.
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Tories to scrap human rights 10 Mar 2013 18:23 #2

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If the likes of Abu Qatada didn't serve a purpose in scaring & incensing the public, they'd have 'disappeared' long since. No doubt May & her cronies would love to be in complete control of human rights, but that term would then be obsolete!
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Tories to scrap human rights 11 Mar 2013 16:27 #3

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It's a nifty little trick really the PTB have been up to for the last few years.

Keep banging on in the media about al qaeda agents living in the UK having all these rights and foreigners living the life of Riley which makes the average Citizen more willing to agree with scrapping human rights. :roll:

The problem is though that these rights will disappear for everybody,including the average citizen.

It's a form of sadomasochism or stockholm syndrome,possibly just stubborn stupidity.

It's like watching a cheap movie thriller where you suss the killer straight away.
naivety attracts evil and evil attracts naivety
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Tories to scrap human rights 11 Mar 2013 17:05 #4

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Expect labour and libdems to vote along with the tories.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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