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Soldiers more likely to be convicted of violent offences 22 May 2013 23:52 #41

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Could she have said anymore damning words in that interview ffs :hedbut:

I suppose Words and actions have power...I wonder what made her think it was a terrorist attack...did she actually witness the event ?


According to her, she was on her way home on the bus and arrived about 5mins after it happened, so no... yet in that interview she uses the word terrorists more than once and actually calls it a 'terrorist related attack'.... and goes on to say;

"I haven't seen them directly but I know they're from Afghanistan"


She got all that from arriving 5mins afterwards?
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According to her, she was on her way home on the bus and arrived about 5mins after it happened, so no... yet in that interview she uses the word terrorists more than once and actually calls it a 'terrorist related attack'.... and goes on to say;

"I haven't seen them directly but I know they're from Afghanistan" She got all that from arriving 5mins afterwards?

Yes it does appear to be bizarre to say the least...I am suprised the squaddie did not fight back ...
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P
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psketti wrote:
Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?
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Soldiers more likely to be convicted of violent offences 23 May 2013 00:38 #46

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jhado wrote:
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch.
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Soldiers more likely to be convicted of violent offences 23 May 2013 00:39 #47

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psketti wrote:
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch.

You'd be suprised :)
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Soldiers more likely to be convicted of violent offences 23 May 2013 00:45 #49

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jhado wrote:
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jhado wrote:
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch.

You'd be suprised :)


Actually, I'm less surprised as the days go on :coffee:
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psketti wrote:
Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch...



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psketti wrote:
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psketti wrote:
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Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch.

You'd be suprised :)


Actually, I'm less surprised as the days go on :coffee:

But the nights aren't drawing in yet Sketts :jane: :rose: :heart:
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LightGiver wrote:
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Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch...



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jhado wrote:
psketti wrote:
jhado wrote:
psketti wrote:
jhado wrote:
psketti wrote:
Lt. Commander Mike : You see? you hesitate. But as a captain, you can't. You have to act. If you don't, you put the entire crew at risk. Now that's the job. It's not a science. You have to be able to make hard decisions based on imperfect information. Asking men to carry out orders that may result in their deaths. And if you're wrong, you suffer the consequences...


Shit job :P

Innit though?

Aye. One I'd be shit at too when it came down to the crunch.

You'd be suprised :)


Actually, I'm less surprised as the days go on :coffee:

But the nights aren't drawing in yet Sketts :jane: :rose: :heart:


Never mind :psketti:
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Both suspects in the killing of a serving soldier in London were known to security services, senior Whitehall sources have confirmed to the BBC.

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In June 2007, the Special Court found 3 of the 11 people indicted – Alex Tamba Brima, Brima Bazzy Kamara and Santigie Borbor Kanu – guilty of war crimes, including acts of terrorism, collective punishments, extermination, murder, rape, outrages upon personal dignity, conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 years into armed forces, enslavement and pillage. It was notably the first-ever international court to bring a guilty verdict for the military conscription of children..

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In 1975, Portugal recognized the independence of its former colony of Angola, and acknowledged the Soviet-aligned MPLA faction as the de jure government. The new government sought and received help in the form of Cuban military advisors, combat troops and material to fight against rival factions, which included the U.S.-backed FNLA and the South African-backed UNITA, which received some US funding but no actual military aid. At the same time, British and American ex-military were recruited by FNLA through contacts in the United Kingdom and United States. Funding was provided by various NATO-member intelligence organizations, including the American CIA and the French Secret Service.Georgiou's sister was allowed to visit him during his captivity in Angola. In a BBC interview, she said they spoke mainly about their family and the trial proceedings. They conversed in Greek. Georgiou's body was repatriated to England, and he was buried according to the rites of the Greek Orthodox Church.


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The veteran mercenary Colonel Allen Faulkner travels to London invited by the British millionaire Sir Edward Matherson to rescue the African President Julius Limbani that had been abducted in a coup d'état by the dictator Colonel Mboya. Sir Edward has interest in the copper mines and intends to negotiate with Limbani. Col. Faulkner hires his friends Captain Rafer Janders and Lieutenant Shawn Fynn and the trio select their old friends to form the rescue team. They plan the whole operation and succeed in their mission; however, Sir Edward deals with the dictator and double-crosses the group of mercenaries, leaving them in Rhodesia. The mercenaries have to fight against Colonel Mboya's troops to survive and Col. Faulkner promises to revenge his deceased friends...

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From their limited use in China during World War II, for example, to their often clandestine use in Vietnam ferrying supplies before the war escalated in 1964 and 1965 when their role became more prominent-and public-private military contractors (PMCs) have played made essential contributions to the success and failures of the military and United States. Today, with an emphasis on force restructuring mandated by the Pentagon, the role of PMCs, and their impact on policy-making decisions is at an all time peak. This work analyzes that impact, focusing specifically on PMCs in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003. Isenberg dissects their responsibilities, the friction that exists between contractors and military commanders, problems of protocol and accountability, as well as the problems of regulation and control that PMC companies create for domestic politics..

Isenberg organizes his work thematically, addressing all facets of PMCs in the current conflict from identifying who the most influential companies are and how they got to that point, to the issues that the government, military, and contractors themselves face when they take the field. He also analyzes the problem of command, control, and accountability. It is no secret that PMCs have been the source of consternation and grief to American military commanders in the field. As they work to establish more routine protocols in the field, however, questions are also being raised about the role of the contractors here at home. The domestic political arena is perhaps the most crucial battleground on which the contractors must have success. After all, they make their corporate living off of taxpayer dollars, and as such, calls for regulation have resonated throughout Washington, D.C., growing louder as the profile of PMCs increases during the current conflict...


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psketti wrote:
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Could she have said anymore damning words in that interview ffs :hedbut:

I suppose Words and actions have power...I wonder what made her think it was a terrorist attack...did she actually witness the event ?


According to her, she was on her way home on the bus and arrived about 5mins after it happened, so no... yet in that interview she uses the word terrorists more than once and actually calls it a 'terrorist related attack'.... and goes on to say;

"I haven't seen them directly but I know they're from Afghanistan"


She got all that from arriving 5mins afterwards?

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