Men who had seen combat in Iraq and Afghanistan were 53% more likely to commit a violent offence than those in non-frontline roles, the study found. ..

Young British men who have served in the armed forces are three times more likely to have been convicted of violent offences than their civilian peers, according to a study published on Friday.

The report in the Lancet, the first to marry the experiences of almost 14,000 military personnel with details on the Police National Computer, also shows how troops who have been in combat are more likely to be involved in violent offending back in the UK.

The study's authors believe this raises questions about how the military and the NHS supports serving and former troops, some of whom end up abusing alcohol or developing severe mental health illnesses following tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Drawing on a random sample of 13,856 serving and ex-personnel mostly from the army, researchers from King's College London looked at criminal offending rates and the possible links between them and post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, depression and other mood disorders.

The study found that of 2,700 men serving in the armed forces under the age of 30, 20.6% had been convicted of a violent offence, compared with 6.7% in the general population. Men who had seen combat in Iraq and Afghanistan were 53% more likely to commit a violent offence than those in non-frontline roles. And personnel who had multiple experiences of combat had a 70% to 80% greater risk of being convicted of acts of violence.

Violent offences covered a broad range of acts, from verbal harassment to homicide. They did not include incidents of domestic violence.

"More frequent exposure to traumatic events during deployment increased the risk of violent offending," the report says. "We noted a strong link between PTSD and violent offending. Combat veterans with PTSD and other mental health concerns frequently present with problems of anger and aggression." However, it also notes that troops who volunteer and are trained for fighting are not chosen randomly.

"In the UK, infantry units have traditionally promoted aggression as a desirable trait and such units frequently recruit individuals who are socially disadvantaged and are likely to have low educational attainment."

Dr Deirdre MacManus, who led the study, said: "Our study found that violent offending was most common among young men from the lower ranks of the army and was strongly associated with a history of violent offending before joining the military. Serving in a combat role and traumatic experiences on deployment also increased the risk of violent behaviour."

Prof Sir Simon Wessely, who co-authored the study, added: "We are suggesting there is a problem that needs to be looked at, but just as with post traumatic stress disorder this is not a common outcome in military populations."

Screening within the armed forces to identify at-risk individuals would not work, he argued. For every correct prediction there were likely to be five that were wrong.

Dr Walter Busuttil, director of medical services at Combat Stress, said: "These findings will help us to identify which veterans are most vulnerable and in need of appropriate care and treatment after leaving the armed forces. We are planning courses for anger management and domestic violence. We are about to establish programmes that deal with alcohol abuse linked to PTSD.

"It would be grossly unfair and inaccurate to characterise all veterans living with PTSD as potential criminals. As noted in the report the vast majority [83%] of serving and ex-serving UK military personnel do not have any sort of criminal record, and the likelihood of violent behaviour is lower among older veterans [aged over 45] than in the general population. What we require now is continued public education to reduce any negative connotations with seeking help for mental health issues, as well as sustained funding for services for veterans."

The Ministry of Defence has introduced a series of initiatives to encourage serving personnel to come forward if they fear they might be suffering from trauma or the early stages of anxiety or depressive illness, and has committed £7m to improve support services.


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www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/15/soldie...lent-offences-report

Phantasmagoria ( fantasmagorie, fantasmagoria) was a form of theatre which used a modified magic lantern to project frightening images such as skeletons, demons, and ghosts onto walls, smoke, or semi-transparent screens, frequently using rear projection.. The projector was mobile, allowing the projected image to move and change size on the screen, and multiple projecting devices allowed for quick switching of different images. Invented in France in the late 18th century, it gained popularity through most of Europe (especially England) throughout the 19th century...

“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking 13.”


“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

The M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (M270 MLRS) is an armored, self-propelled, multiple rocket launcher; a type of rocket artillery..



Since the first M270s were delivered to the U.S. Army in 1983, the MLRS has been adopted by several NATO countries. Some 1,300 M270 systems have been manufactured in the United States and in Europe, along with more than 700,000 rockets. The production of the M270 ended in 2003, when a last batch was delivered to the Egyptian army...

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it's hardly surprising, put someone in a hostile and violent environment, train them to be violent then be surprised when they turn out violent.

oioioi wrote:
Absolutely,I also think Troops etc who have served in combat situations should not be let out on leave straight after a tour of duty...better still have no war's at all...

Thats the military industrial complex for you ...


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The puppet goes broken... Naah, what the hell, the master just gets the new one... And the puppets themselves don't even know they've been played around as a toys in a war game.. It's sad really.

I quote Einstein from memory: "The pioneers of a warless world are the young men who refuse armed service." This kind of snippets of wisdom are kryptonite for those who run the show. Luckily "my country" does not send soldiers to die in middle east for puppeteers "interests."



EDIT: Funny thing, usually I don't remember things like that... I must have a good day going or something...

One British soldier has died and at least nine have been wounded by Taliban insurgents who attacked a patrol base in Afghanistan’s Helmand province with a truck bomb and small arms fire. ...



Analysis: China trades and seeks profit, shuns politics, in Afghanistan...Chinese Troop Deaths = ZERO...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10629358
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/...-suicide-attack.html
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oioioi wrote:
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:p

LightGiver wrote:

Hexhammer wrote:
If you do not mind me asking,what is your country ?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Wo...he_Manhattan_Project
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

andyh wrote:
Hmm...

Griffin starred in many films, including The Meteor Man (1993), Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo (1999), Double Take (2001), Undercover Brother (2002), John Q (2002), Scary Movie 3 (2003), Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo (2005) and Norbit (2007). Later in 2007, Eddie starred alongside Steven Seagal in Urban Justice a thriller set in New Mexico. He also starred in the UPN television series Malcolm & Eddie (1996–2000)...



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But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21974471
sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Recommended-Read...tml?start=840#109161

BOSNIA: MURDER OF MUSLIM CIVILIANS: British troops serving 23.4.93 with the UN have found evidence of the systematic murder of Muslim civilians by Croat forces in the village of Ahinici. Villagers were found lying slaughtered in the burned remains of their homes..

Ahmići massacre was the culmination of the Lašva Valley ethnic cleansing committed by the Croatian Community of Herzeg-Bosnia's political and military leadership on Bosniak civilians during the Croat-Bosniak war in April 1993. It is the biggest massacre committed during the conflict between Croats and the Bosnian government (dominated by Bosniaks).The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague has ruled that these crimes amounted to crimes against humanity in numerous verdicts against Croat political and military leaders and soldiers, most notably Dario Kordić, political leader of Croats in Central Bosnia who got 25 years in prison.. The massacre was discovered by United Nations drawn from the British Army, under the command of Colonel Bob Stewart...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide

Rape in the Bosnian war pertains to the characteristic elements of sexual assault in the ethnic clash between Serb, Croat and Bosniak factions in the Bosnian War. While on a lesser scale, women of all ethnic groups were affected, more specifically, rape was used as a systematized instrument of war by the Bosnian Serb forces of the Army of the Republika Srpska (VRS) predominantly targeting women and girls of the Bosniak ethnic group for physical and moral destruction.Estimates of the total number of women raped during the war range from 20,000 to 50,000.This has been referred to as "mass rape",particularly with regard to the coordinated use of rape as a weapon of war. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) declared that "systematic rape", and "sexual enslavement" in time of war was a crime against humanity, second only to the war crime of genocide. The Kunarac case was the first time in judicial history anyone had been found guilty of these crimes...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Bosnian_War

The Hessians were 18th-century German soldiers hired through their rulers by the British Empire. About 30,000 German soldiers served in the Thirteen Colonies during the American Revolutionary War; nearly half were from the Hesse region of Germany; the others came from similar small German states. In the context of the British service, they were all referred to as "Hessians." The American colonists called them mercenaries...


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hessian_mercenaries
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Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a severe anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to any event that results in psychological trauma. This event may involve the threat of death to oneself or to someone else, or to one's own or someone else's physical, sexual, or psychological integrityoverwhelming the individual's ability to cope. As an effect of psychological trauma, PTSD is less frequent and more enduring than the more commonly seen post traumatic stress (also known as acute stress response). Diagnostic symptoms for PTSD include re-experiencing the original trauma(s) through flashbacks or nightmares, avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma, and increased arousal—such as difficulty falling or staying asleep, anger, and hypervigilance...



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The South Vietnamese Army (SVA) had been financed by America throughout the late 1950’s, 1960’s and as a result of Vietnamisation, to an even greater degree from 1970 to 1975. The South Vietnamese Army first took shape after the 1954 Geneva Agreement when the American Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) commanded by Lieutenant General John O’Daniel set about creating a modern military force, funded by the US, that was capable of defending South Vietnam against an invasion by troops from North Vietnam...

What was the effect of the Vietnam War on Vietnamese Soldiers/People in Vietnam? ? ?

www.pschulze.info/south_vietnamese_soldiers.htm
www.historylearningsite.co.uk/south_vietnamese_army.htm
wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Vietnamese_s...d_in_the_Vietnam_war

Surely there's no surprise in this revelation.

It's a bit of a "Trained Bakers Make Bread and Cakes!" story.

Mar 5, 1770:.Civilians and soldiers clash in the Boston Massacre...

On the cold, snowy night of March 5, 1770, a mob of angry colonists gathers at the Customs House in Boston and begins tossing snowballs and rocks at the lone British soldier guarding the building. The protesters opposed the occupation of their city by British troops, who were sent to Boston in 1768 to enforce unpopular taxation measures passed by a British parliament without direct American representation...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Soldiers_and_Civilians
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/civi...-the-boston-massacre

Charles Samuel Myers FRS (13 March 1873 – 12 October 1946) was an English physician who worked as a psychologist. He wrote the first paper on shell shock in 1915, but did not invent the term. He was co-founder of the British Psychological Society and the National Institute of Industrial Psychology...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Myers