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Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime 28 May 2013 08:34 #1

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330940...ml?ito=feeds-newsxml
Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime, says top judge

Alan Goldsack QC said drastic action needed as crime runs in families
Recorder of Sheffield said taking children away could save thousands
Judge says he sees grandchildren of criminals he prosecuted in court

Babies born to prostitutes, drug addicts and other criminals should be adopted at birth to prevent them following their parents into jail, a leading judge has said.

Alan Goldsack QC, the Recorder of Sheffield, said it was the state’s duty to intervene to stop the ‘next generation of criminals’.

He said it was ‘frightening’ how many of the criminals he was sentencing today were the grandchildren of those he had dealt with 40 years ago.

‘Crime runs in families the same way that being a doctor, teacher or lawyer does,’ he said in an interview to mark his retirement.

‘Some people become criminals because they enjoy crime and think it’s a good way of life and if they don’t get caught they think they can have a good lifestyle.

‘But a frightening thing is the number of people I see who are the grandchildren of the people I have prosecuted and defended 40 years ago.’

The state had to ‘remove young babies from the families that are going to produce the next generation of criminals’, he said.

He added that a dysfunctional family would often have £250,000 spent on them, ‘but if we get in early and removed children we could save thousands’.

He said a ‘huge proportion’ of prisoners were a ‘product of the care system’.
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Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime 28 May 2013 09:49 #2

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A huge proportion are a product of the care system...so put even more into it.

Nice one, authoritarian thinking, works everytime :roll:
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Alan Goldsack QC,

Mr Goldsack! :killinme:

Seriously, you couldn't make this shit up. Is he jewish perhaps? Lets start taking bets.... :D
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The guys obviously a wingnut.
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andyh wrote:
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The guys obviously a wingnut.
What an idiot.
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Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime 28 May 2013 13:52 #6

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diamondgeezer wrote:
Alan Goldsack QC,

Mr Goldsack! :killinme:

Seriously, you couldn't make this shit up. Is he jewish perhaps? Lets start taking bets.... :D

:roll:
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He could always say lets make the system fairer instead,because he has basically admitted it is rigged in favour of more privileged people.

when labour won a land slide victory after the bankers,industrialists and royals war (1939-1945) they should have smashed the class system.

Goldsack is known as silver balls to his mates :hahano:
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‘Crime runs in families the same way that being a doctor, teacher or lawyer does,’

Are the children of politicians who okayed an illegal war at risk as well? Best pop them into care before they get the chance to grow up and start some of their own.
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hugorune wrote:
‘Crime runs in families the same way that being a doctor, teacher or lawyer does,’

Are the children of politicians who okayed an illegal war at risk as well? Best pop them into care before they get the chance to grow up and start some of their own.

hugo it's up to you to enforce this....
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.......... wrote:
hugorune wrote:
‘Crime runs in families the same way that being a doctor, teacher or lawyer does,’

Are the children of politicians who okayed an illegal war at risk as well? Best pop them into care before they get the chance to grow up and start some of their own.

hugo it's up to you to enforce this....

Is it? Ok.

How do I go about doing it?
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^Start a massive protest...
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^Start a massive protest...

About taking politicians children into care?

Personally I'm not in favour of taking kids off their parents and putting them into the care system. But if that's what Her Majesty's government intends to do we'll have to see if their kids are included.
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Pull your finger out eh hugo, kids lives are at stake here!
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Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime 28 May 2013 16:49 #14

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oioioi wrote:
Pull your finger out eh hugo, kids lives are at stake here!

And don't forget your outfit.

(You may NOT wear the internet warrior one for this, either).
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hugorune wrote:
.......... wrote:
^Start a massive protest...

About taking politicians children into care?

Personally I'm not in favour of taking kids off their parents and putting them into the care system. But if that's what Her Majesty's government intends to do we'll have to see if their kids are included.

If you manage to steal billions or trillions and kill hundreds of thousands of people then you don't qualify as a criminal.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330940...ml?ito=feeds-newsxml
Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime, says top judge

Maybe we could do with honest judges and a honest legal system in the first place....plus the daily fail is just full of idle gossip spreading shit and lies about people...just gotta sell those newspapers I suppose,keep the media moguls nice and rich...

I notice the DIF slags of the MSM but uses it when it suits the agenda...

a better option to all these problems would be to have a better education system and a fairer society...but hey thats to fucking easy innit...

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Remove children from criminal families at birth to save them from crime 28 May 2013 17:18 #17

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oioioi wrote:
Pull your finger out eh hugo, kids lives are at stake here!

:D

I'm a disgrace to my species.
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Ab Origine wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Pull your finger out eh hugo, kids lives are at stake here!

And don't forget your outfit.

(You may NOT wear the internet warrior one for this, either).

I don't have that many outfits. :emb:

I could use my flying monkey onesie but I'd need psketti's permission. :)
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.......... wrote:
^Start a massive protest...

Since you believe massive protests to be the way forward, are you...

(a) Keeping quiet about all the massive protests you've started out of modesty?

(b) Refraining from starting massive protests because you're supportive of all the terrible things that go on in the States?

(c) Being an attention-seeking jibber mouth?
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hugorune wrote:

I don't have that many outfits. :emb:

I could use my flying monkey onesie but I'd need psketti's permission. :)


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