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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 12:29 #1

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A schoolboy trying to save his youth club was hauled from class after his plan to protest outside David Cameron's constituency office was spotted - by anti-terror police.
Nicky Wishart and his mum Virginia Nicky Wishart and his mum Virginia

A schoolboy trying to save his youth club was hauled from class after his plan to protest outside David Cameron's constituency office was spotted - by anti-terror police.

In an astonishing over-reaction, 12-year-old Nicky Wishart was warned he faced ARREST.

"I couldn't believe it," he said. "The policeman asked me lots of questions about why we were having a protest and who would be there.

"I said it was simply because we didn't want our youth centre to close - it's a fantastic place to go and there isn't much else for us to do round here."

The full-scale security operation swung into effect days after Nicky made an innocent request on Facebook to "save our youth centre".

The surprised boy was told police were now monitoring his Facebook posts - which are mainly gossip and banter from school about lessons and friends' haircuts.

He was told he would be responsible for any "trouble" at the well-mannered picket on Friday night.

Public-spirited Nicky, one of the PM's constituents in the Oxfordshire seat of Witney, said: "All this is because Mr Cameron is our local MP and it's a bit embarrassing for him."

He said the police arrived during an English lesson on Tuesday afternoon.

"I was taken out of class - and the policeman said, 'Are you aware that the anti-terrorist squad are looking at your Facebook account?' He said that if anything got out of hand, they would arrest people.

"Then he said that I could get arrested for organising it. I was frightened and wished my mum was with me."

Nicky, who describes himself as a "maths geek, not a rebel or rioter", said: "Then the policeman asked, 'Does your mum know about this?' I said, 'Yes, of course, she supports it.'

"But the policeman carried on, 'Are you sure your mum wants you out protesting at night?' He was trying to scare me off - but there was no way I wasn't going to go."

In opposition, Mr Cameron often spoke of the need to keep youth clubs open to give youngsters a constructive way to spend their time.

He said in 2007: "Before people break the law, we need strong families, we need youth clubs, we need things to divert people from crime."

But, as part of the Con-Dem cuts, Tory-run Oxfordshire County Council is axing £4million of funding for 20 clubs - including the one in Nicky's home village, Eynsham.

The council claims volunteers might take over as part of Mr Cameron's "Big Society".

But Nicky says that if funding for the five staff at the centre is removed, it will be forced to close in March.

The well-used centre, catering for children aged 10 to 18 has a music room, pool table, table-tennis and coffee bar.

Nicky set up a Facebook group called Save All UK Youth Centres, which now has 649 members.

At Friday's hour-long demo, he, his sister Beth, 14, and a dozen friends waved home-made placards outside the PM's office in Witney accompanied by two youth workers.

The picket was watched by four police officers on the other side of the street. Two more officers were nearby.

Liz Brighouse, leader of the council's Labour group, said: "For anti-terror police to get involved is complete madness.

"This is a community-spirited 12-year-old we are talking about."

Nicky's mother Virginia, 41, said: "The school phoned on Monday to say the anti-terror police had been looking at his Facebook.

"I said it was OK for police to speak to him, but assumed I'd be there and I was appalled they interviewed him without me.

"Nicky has done nothing wrong. He's been brought up to be respectful and I support what he's doing."

Thames Valley police said an officer interviewed Nicky, with his head of year sitting in.

A spokesman said: "This was not to dissuade his protest but to obtain information to ensure his and others' safety."
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 12:44 #2

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He said in 2007: "Before people break the law, we need strong families, we need youth clubs, we need things to divert people from crime."

^I totally agree with this. Not something I can say often about Cameron, lol.
Its not like he meant any of it though. Privatised youth clubs perhaps, sheesh.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 13:37 #3

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Isn't it illegal to question a child of his age without his parent being present? Maybe because his mum thought they were perhaps just a couple of 'bobbies' and just wanted 'a chat' it would be OK.
But whatever....the school should have told the anti-terror boys that they couldn't talk to him until a parent was present.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 13:45 #4

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Teachers are in loco parentis during school hours though. And the article says his mum wasn't told anyone was going to interview him.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:15 #5

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"The school phoned on Monday to say the anti-terror police had been looking at his Facebook.

"I said it was OK for police to speak to him, but assumed I'd be there and I was appalled they interviewed him without me.

"Nicky has done nothing wrong. He's been brought up to be respectful and I support what he's doing."
Thames Valley police said an officer interviewed Nicky, with his head of year sitting in.

A spokesman said: "This was not to dissuade his protest but to obtain information to ensure his and others' safety."

Safety??? And that requires the anti-terror squad???? wtf???
At the end of the day this was totally OTT. Makes you wonder where the orders came from for the ats to go into the school.
This is just a hair breadth away from our kids being taken away at the states dictat.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:35 #6

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She assumed she'd be there - I meant she wasn't told they were going to actually going to go ahead and interview him when they did. That's crappy!

If I'd got that call saying they'd been looking at my son's account though, I'd be getting in touch with them directly, and emphasising to them and the school that nothing was to take place without my being present. Mum sounds a bit trusting - like she had faith in a bit of common sense being exercised. I'd have wiped the floor with the lot of them. Twice.

And why the fuck didn't the ATS contact her?

Intimidation tactics.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:36 #7

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angelchemuel wrote:
This is just a hair breadth away from our kids being taken away at the states dictat.
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They already do that IMHO with closed secret courts and social workers who steal children.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:39 #8

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Yes, I believe that goes on too, and it's the scariest shit going. Anyone involved in those goings on deserve hell.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:44 #9

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Here you go...from Andy's IPNA's thread...its a coming
Breaching them will not be classed as a criminal offence, but can still carry a custodial sentence: without committing a crime, you can be imprisoned for up to two years. Children, who cannot currently be detained for contempt of court, will be subject to an inspiring new range of punishments for breaking an ipna, including three months in a young offenders' centre.

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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 14:48 #10

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angelchemuel wrote:
Here you go...from Andy's IPNA's thread...its a coming
Breaching them will not be classed as a criminal offence, but can still carry a custodial sentence: without committing a crime, you can be imprisoned for up to two years. Children, who cannot currently be detained for contempt of court, will be subject to an inspiring new range of punishments for breaking an ipna, including three months in a young offenders' centre.

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And thats as young as 10 years old...

Basically all out war on the working class, families. They're going for the kill now.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 15:06 #11

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I look at all this bollocks going on, and it makes me feel angry and impotent.
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Basically all out war on the working class, families. They're going for the kill now.

It's fucking scary shit when you look at the overlap in both your threads Andy.
I don't know whether I feel sick, scared or just angry....I'm still trying to assimilate the consequences of peoples blindness to what is going on right under our noses in such a oh so subtle way, and the majority will only realise it when it's way too late.

Is it just me, but when you look at everything that has been happening/announced in just this first week of 2014......things that TPTB/elite/whatever seem to have taken speed and like you say are going in for the kill....which makes me wonder what the hell is coming and why?
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The why IMHO is down to knowing that there isn't enough money to go around for the pensioners who are coming.
I talked about a greying population thats already happening in Japan and shortly in Europe (although its hard to believe it in the UK because we live in such densely populated areas).
There is the money ofc in reality but the rich are not willing to let it 'trickle down' as they call it.

IMHO there will be no sudden collapse as such, we're just going to get slowly screwed, just perhaps a sudden surge of stuff appearing since its new year.
That actually bothers me far more than the thought of sudden collapse..I can actually cope with a sudden collapse, I can actually think of how to manage with it. But a gradual decline? How do you cope with that?
I mean no-one is safe from that, including myself. I can easily see my line of work drying up outside of places like London and I already see all these zero hour jobs and they're even advertised by local councils.
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 15:29 #14

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It bugs me that so many are too stupid to realise that the rug could be pulled from under their feet at any second. Nobody should be feeling complacent / superior, because nobody's safe, and the more people go along with it, and oblige by turning on each other (as per the Benefits Street thread) the more surely we seal our own doom. Except the fucking elite, of course. They're laughing.
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Re:Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 16:43 #15

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Its still trending at the top in twitter, even now
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 16:51 #16

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First of all well done to the young lad and his family and friends for going to the trouble of organising the demo.

Secondly what a bunch of sad little losers the police are for attempting to intimidate a child,the police officers involved must be embarrassed with themselves as most people are laughing at them,sad,sad,sad pathetic police.

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Re:Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 16:59 #17

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andyh wrote:
Its still trending at the top in twitter, even now
If you mean about this subject and not the channel4 shite, then good.....hope it wakes a few people up as to what's coming. We are racing towards the thin end of the wedge, unfortunately we are heading over the edge of that wedge........
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Re:Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 07 Jan 2014 18:22 #18

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Unfortunately I meant the CH4 propaganda aye :/
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 13 Jan 2014 18:14 #19

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We live in a sick world. Poor boy, his just a child..
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Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest 14 Jan 2014 07:33 #20

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That's disgusting, they certainly are going in for the kill. His mother needs a couple of life lessons as well.

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