en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard

And the alien invasion books he wrote?

He was a lair and a fraud who became a cult leader. How he achieved such fame makes you wonder if he had backing from someone else.

He was a Thelemite, a follower/contemporary of Crowley, and was probably an intelligence operative, like Crowley, who was also an intelligence operative.

Those things have to be considered when attempting to form an opinion of ol' L. Ron.

Don't really know all too much about Hubbard himself. Haven't even read his books. But I have used techniques he supposedly taught, non-hypnotic memory retrieval, on a few people...seemed to work just fine, with good results. So if I was to form an opinion off of what he taught (I learned from someone else) and from my experience using those techniques, I'd have to say he was on to something.

The guy was completely wacko, invented a new religion to make himself rich (and even admits it!) yet he still has followers.
The parallels between religion, politics and the likes of Alex Jones and Icke is truly amazing.

Statement in quote from Scientology
{The eighth dynamic is the urge toward existence as infinity. This is also identified as the Supreme Being. This is called the eighth dynamic because the symbol of infinity stood upright makes the numeral “8.” This can be called the infinity or God dynamic…. "}
End quote}

What do you think that statement means a belief in God or Gods or not?
It's confusing and hard to clarify

andy pretty much sums it up for me

What Tarantino is to movies Hubbard is to religion and philosophy.

I read a good book about him & Scientwology a while ago exposing the sham that it is.... can't for the life of me remember who it was by or what book it was. Just goes to show that if you can pull the wool over people's eyes so easily in this day and age with a religion where the guy who invented it revealed it was just about making a load of cash - then how easily fooled people have been for centuries by other religions which had exactly the same intent and possibly similar origin of just some guy talking a load of shit!

Tom Cruise is obviously totally deluded. But he did shag Nicole Kidman,

StarsChildren wrote:

What are the techniques starchildren?

nirvana wrote:
Start with the most recent traumatic memory, go over it and over it and over it til the person no longer has any emotional charge connected to it (and you get more details basically every time you go over it with them)... then you go back to another, and repeat the procedure (if the party wants to)... basically it's disconnecting the traumatic, and emotional charges that get connected to bad experiences. Also is used for past life, and recovering a memory that you may have forgotten.

Edit: Damnit... Didn't mean to really explain how it works... The techniques involve being a good listening and asking questions without "leading" the person at the basic levels. Emeters are used for more advanced people and the party they are putting back. I know there is probably some technical way of explaining it all, but I start out with "return to (specific incident or a traumatic experience)" and it goes from there.

I wonder if some of these people don't so immerse themselves in theories/stories/acting techniques and so on that they end up "creating that as their reality", a la Law Of Attraction kind of thingy?

its so stupid, i dont understand how people could follow that. how did he do it? he looked like an egg and donald trump.

i read one of his books the something earth one were aliens take over and one, very stereotypical for the time conan type warrior american patriot , saves mankind bloody long it was and a terrible film.with john travolta as i remember .

i just cant fathom americans they trust pro wrestlers actors and writers when it comes to faith politics social economics etc
and think thats fine the same mentality is being introduced worldwide dumbing us all down to knee jerk levels of reasoning ,
" can i get a hell yeah " ? no you fucking cant sit down and shut up

StarsChildren wrote:
that sounds like de sensitising areas blocked by
emotions that the person would rather blockuu out than accept ,
opeople who do this actually dont forget traumatic episodes they just cant communicate them to others through fear of showing emotional responses that they think embaresssing almost ,

so by going over and over traumatic events
they expose more and more until they communicate to others thoughts trapped inside through anxiety or fear

i think .

mushy wrote:
Could very well be Mushy... either way, whatever it does, it works. I did it with a rape victim and with another person (as well as had someone else do it to me)...both came out better for it. Hubbard may have been a loon, he may not have, but this way of helping people seems to help them on some level, so in my opinion is worth it.
For the record not a Scientologist... just take what I can use from various things and apply them...

ronisron wrote:
That was true but Crowley ended up hating him, he believed Hubbard and Parsons betrayed him.
He was really a follower of Jack Parsons and supposedly was involved with Parson's attempt to create the moonchild.
Hubbard described scientology as a way of fleecing dumb people of their cash (especially targeting celebrities) and his son described scientology as a black magic mind control cult.

so my opinion of the guy is that he was a piece of shit.

martg wrote:
Oh he was undoubtedly a POS, I just wanted to accentuate that by saying he was intelligence -- a POS x 10. Really depraved. That's why he knew so much about mind control.

Parsons had a falling out with him after L Ron stole his sex magick lady friend/wife. I've read that L Ron may have ben involved in what some people consider to be Parsons' "suspicious" death. Parsons was also a follower of Crowley. And was definitely intelligence/military.