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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 14 May 2013 22:56 #1

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Steven Jones admits WTC 7 collapse time was at least twice as long.
For years, Jones and others have claimed that WTC 7 collapsed in 6.5 seconds, nearly free fall speed.

Jones's admission comes on the heels of a debate on the Rob Bishop show when Jason Bermas, one of the amateur filmmakers responsible for the film, "Loose Change", became flustered when the question of the WTC 7 collapse time came up. Bermas was confronted with the CBS video of the collapse of WTC 7 clearly showing it took over 13 seconds to collapse from beginning to end.

"That is a fantasy! I've looked at all the videos. WTC 7 collpased in 6.5 seconds, period!", Jason declared in a nervous voice.

Pat Curley, who participated in the debate and co-wrote with James Bennett the debunking of the film, "Loose Change", demonstrated conclusively that WTC 7 collapsed in over 13 seconds.

"The CBS video clearly shows that the East Penthouse collapsed first, followed by the West Penthouse and the rest of the structure. Between the beginning of the East Penthouse collapse and the beginning of the structure collapse, 7 seconds went by. The structure collapse then took an additional 6 - 7 seconds," Pat explained.

Bermas, visibly shaken, responded by completely dismissing the video evidence.

Pat pointed out that the 9/11 Truth Movement has inexplicably argued against its own controlled demolition theory for years.

"The CBS video demonstrates that internal collapses were taking place in WTC 7 before the entire structure fell. The 9/11 Truth Movement could have argued that bombs were going off inside of WTC 7 to weaken the structure so structure collapse could take place, just like internal explosives are set off to cause a structure collapse in real controlled demolitions. Instead, they adamantly argue that no internal collapse took place before the building collapsed. Isn't that strange?"

Responding to the controversy, Steven Jones announced that WTC 7 did indeed take over 13 seconds to collapse.

"We screwed up. We had never seen the CBS video when we claimed that it took WTC 7 6.5 seconds to collapse. We only relied on the street video that does not show the Penthouses. By the time we saw the CBS video, we had so much invested in the 6.5-second collapse time, we could not disappoint our supporters who were successfully using the 6.5 free fall time to push 9/11 Truth. We just ignored the evidence.

Asked how his revelation would affect 9/11 Truth, Jones said it would enhance and strengthen it.

Jones said, "There is no question that bombs went off in WTC 7 to weaken the internal structure before the building came down. That is obvious from the video and why it took over 13 seconds for WTC 7 to collapse."

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 14 May 2013 23:21 #2

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 14 May 2013 23:56 #3

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:04 #4

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lmfao

The source is 2 blogs and DIF btw :D
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:06 #5

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:10 #6

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:12 #7

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andyh wrote:
lmfao

The source is 2 blogs and DIF btw :D

You could always mail Jones for confirmation :-)
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:13 #8

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John Drake wrote:
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:14 #9

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John Drake wrote:
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lmfao

The source is 2 blogs and DIF btw :D

You could always mail Jones for confirmation :-)

Or the only two sites on the entire internet with that exact same text with no source link either....
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:14 #10

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andyh wrote:
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The source is 2 blogs and DIF btw :D


Cheers andy :D
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:17 #11

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:19 #12

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:21 #13

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John Drake wrote:


So if you care about your forum then why do you allow people to break your hosts TOS?

Nobodys breaking anything.

Except your feelings clearly.
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:25 #14

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psketti wrote:
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So if you care about your forum then why do you allow people to break your hosts TOS?

Nobodys breaking anything.

Except your feelings clearly.


Really? You really think people posting the stuff they have about me (and probably others) does not break any of your hosts TOS? Well in that case you have nothing to worry your self about then :-) All is cool, you know best.
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andyh wrote:
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:28 #16

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John Drake wrote:
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So if you care about your forum then why do you allow people to break your hosts TOS?

Nobodys breaking anything.

Except your feelings clearly.


Really? You really think people posting the stuff they have about me (and probably others) does not break any of your hosts TOS? Well in that case you have nothing to worry your self about then :-) All is cool, you know best.

a) You have not been named, an internet handle or nickname has
b) You could be anyone
c) You're reading the wrong t&c no doubt

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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:29 #17

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Really? You really think people posting the stuff they have about me (and probably others) does not break any of your hosts TOS? Well in that case you have nothing to worry your self about then :-) All is cool, you know best.


Get over yourself.
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andyh wrote:

a) You have not been named, an internet handle or nickname has

Yes. The very same nickname(s) that are very well known in the land of forums.
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Steven Jones on WTC 7 Collapse: "We Really Screwed Up" 15 May 2013 00:43 #19

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a) You have not been named, an internet handle or nickname has

Yes. The very same nickname(s) that are very well known in the land of forums.

I think your chum and yourself are getting rather mixed up here. In law i may have to be named but cases have been brought where the offended party was not named but it was perfectly clear who was being libeled, abused etc. There is also such a thing as serious libel. Anyway that's neither here nor there when it comes to your hosts TOS. They for example do not allow abusive posts or swearing no mater who its aimed at.
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John Drake wrote:
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andyh wrote:

a) You have not been named, an internet handle or nickname has

Yes. The very same nickname(s) that are very well known in the land of forums.

I think your chum and yourself are getting rather mixed up here. In law i may have to be named but cases have been brought where the offended party was not named but it was perfectly clear who was being libeled, abused etc. There is also such a thing as serious libel. Anyway that's neither here nor there when it comes to your hosts TOS. They for example do not allow abusive posts or swearing no mater who its aimed at.

Fuck off :gleek:
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